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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 8:33:06 PM

Marini

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Well Popeye when we start seeing physicians working in fast food restaurants,
we can get medical advice with our fries.

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 8:39:33 PM

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Well Popeye when we start seeing physicians working in fast food restaurants,
we can get medical advice with our fries.

Yeah that's why McDonalds won't hire doctors.

"Okay let me repeat your order back to you, you wanted one morbidly obese sized greaseburger meal, enough fries to feed 3 people, and a large cup of carbonated sugar water that will decay your teeth. That will be $8.00 please drive to the next window you stupid fuck."

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 8:41:50 PM

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Making damn good money doesn't mean that they weren't living within their means.

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I find it ironic that those with a "higher" education, some of which were making damn good money, are the one's now bitterly complaining about their fallen status.

All i can say is... welcome to reality, learn to live within your means like the working poor do.

Again, welcome to reality. It can happen to anyone. For a long time it only happened to the middle and lower classes. Suddenly its reaching higher. Suddenly this is now a "problem".

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 8:42:08 PM

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lol Elisabella

The physician won't say that, if a physician is working at McD's, he needs the money!!!!

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 8:49:36 PM

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Well, you have to figure the costs. That guy in the article had to have loans from undergrad to pay still.
When I graduated I was thinking about continuing on and getting an MBA but even back then in the 80's it was expensive, $75 k if I remember correctly.
It wouldn't surprise me if it costs $150k these days.
So, you've got all that debt service which can take 20 years to pay off plus try to support a family on $50k per year? It doesn't compute.
Your loan payments could be a huge nut every month!
I dropped that idea and took a job in sales with a big insurance co.

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 8:51:49 PM

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lol Elisabella

The physician won't say that, if a physician is working at McD's, he needs the money!!!!

If a physician is working at Mc D's he needs a psychiatrist!

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 8:54:13 PM

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Hi kittin? *smooch*

Mouah!!!

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 9:06:23 PM

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It is a surprise the MBA even got the job. In general, he would be considered over-qualified (unless maybe if he is a "visible minority").

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 9:07:51 PM

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Unfortunately the man is going to have to go back-to-school and train to become a pharmacist so he can make $100,000/year or do something else. Many people have done that before and I don't know that I feel sorry for him. Usually I'm more sympathetic but I think he can support his family on $50,000 a year. While we are discussing this matter of a suitable income how about increasing the minimum wage for the working poor so they can live decently?

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PayScale - Retail Drugstore, Pharmacy Chain Industry Salary, Average Salaries

It looks like he can make $50,000 a year as a store manager. I think with his education and work experience it's possible for him to move up rapidly to that position.

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Industry=Retail_Drugstore,_Pharmacy_Chain/Salary

Brain, the same with McDonalds', but, "MBA's" aren't supposed to be working in drugstores.
They are "supposed" to be working in management and aquisitions, investment banking, securities exchanges etc and for $300k not $50k.
Would you expect to see your M.D. working at the car wash for "extra cash?"

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 9:11:17 PM

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Coming from someone like Popeye, I find that thread particularly pathetic.

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 9:13:30 PM

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There are production and operations MBAs, and your salary scale's off. It's skewed towards Wall Street types. You can check out the entry level MBA pay vs tuition in the US News and World Report issues on graduate schools. There's also info on the web that gives "5 year out" pay. To get the extremely high pay, you need to come from the Ivies and Stanford, maybe UC Berkeley and UCLA.

BTW, I don't know of anyone hiring people without at least a GED.

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PayScale - Retail Drugstore, Pharmacy Chain Industry Salary, Average Salaries

It looks like he can make $50,000 a year as a store manager. I think with his education and work experience it's possible for him to move up rapidly to that position.

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Industry=Retail_Drugstore,_Pharmacy_Chain/Salary

Brain, the same with McDonalds', but, "MBA's" aren't supposed to be working in drugstores.
They are "supposed" to be working in management and aquisitions, investment banking, securities exchanges etc and for $300k not $50k.
Would you expect to see your M.D. working at the car wash for "extra cash?"

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 9:14:06 PM

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You are are obviously completely clueless about the training pharmacists need to be licensed in this country.

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 9:26:22 PM

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You are are obviously completely clueless about the training pharmacists need to be licensed in this country.

Thankfully Popeye's education is now complete

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/6/2010 11:10:50 PM

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Really? Do you have a degree? I don’t think it’s that hard. You don’t even have to have an undergraduate degree and he has an MBA. I could do it – I know a high school flunkie I went to school with and he did it.

Pharmacist Education and Career Training Information

Educational Requirements for Pharmacists

Anyone who wants to become a pharmacist in the United States is required to have obtained a Doctor of Pharmacy (Pharm.D.) degree. The Pharm.D. program does not usually require a student to have completed a lower-level degree program before admission. However, many schools do require completion of some undergraduate courses prior to application, and students who have earned an undergraduate degree might be viewed more favorably.
Pharm.D. programs tend to take four years to complete, which does not take into account the required pre-pharmacy coursework. The curriculum combines traditional coursework and on-site clinical training. Subjects studied include biology, biochemistry, pharmaceuticals, genetics, self-care, medical ethics, nutrition and therapeutics.

http://education-portal.com/pharmacist_education.html

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/7/2010 1:24:59 AM

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Brain, admission is done like with Nursing programs, based upon a point system, the more points you accumulate, the easier it is to get in. Undergraduates recieve points for their degree. Those with college experience but no degree, less points.

Most colleges require science cources to be within the last 5 years. If he graduated more than 5 years ago, he will have to retake all but the basics. Couple that with the fact that his degree was in business and not science, and its a long four plus years to go.

Its not as easy as you make it sound.

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If you are a high school student who wants to become a pharmacist, you should take science subjects every year - earth science, biology, chemistry, physics. Taking Advanced Physics will add credit to get accepted to pharmacy school. You should also like organic chemistry, which is a difficult subject that you have to deal with on your first year in college. You should also take math subjects to show college admissions that you are studious and unafraid of difficult coursework. Do not forget to enroll in foreign languages, too. This demonstrates that you are well-rounded and proficient in memorizing information, which is an important skill of a pharmacist.

To apply to a pharmacy school, you need to complete two years of undergraduate pre-pharmacy course and pass the Pharmacy College Admissions (PCAT), if required by the school. There are also some schools that require essay, letters of recommendation and interview.

To work as a pharmacist, you must have a degree in Doctor of Pharmacy, also known as PharmD, from an accredited college of pharmacy. You should also go through an internship program under a licensed pharmacist and pass the NAPLEX state examination before you can obtain a license to practice.

Retail pharmacists who work for drug stores or grocery stores may be promoted to pharmacy supervisors to store managers. They may also advance to be district or regional managers and eventually hold executive status at the head office.

Clinical pharmacists may also be promoted to supervisory positions, while those who are employed in the pharmaceutical industry may advance in sales, marketing, research or quality control.

According to the April 2009 data of Salary.com, the annual median salary for pharmacists is $106,764.

http://www.squidoo.com/become-pharmacist

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/7/2010 6:38:23 AM

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There is such a thing as being over-educated.

No, there is not.

How would you define being over-educated?

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/7/2010 6:58:09 AM

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Now, now Popeye we all know how wonderful this "global economy" is, and how
great it is for the American workers.
Freedom really is just another word, for nothing left to lose.
Out Sourcing America: Job Loss and Unemployment

Yet the same people who are losing their jobs to outsourcing are the ones who run down to Wal-Mart and buy all the imported junk because it saves them a dollar or two.

You can't have it both ways.

People buy cheap imported goods and then complain when jobs are lost due to cheap imported goods.

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/7/2010 7:08:40 AM

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There is such a thing as being over-educated.

No, there is not.

How would you define being over-educated?

Aprox 10 years ago, I was unemployed. When I had had enough of rejections and ran out of other options, I found myself at Burger King thinking any pay check is better than none. The manager said he was really impressed, but unfortunately I was over qualified so he wouldn't give me the job. He said he didn't want to waste time training me when I would leave the minute I got offered a better job. I was really pissed at the time, but 2 weeks later, when I was offered a really good job in my field I understood. He was right, because there was no way in hell I would have stayed at BK and given up that job.

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/7/2010 8:51:19 AM

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There is such a thing as being over-educated.

No, there is not.

How would you define being over-educated?

Aprox 10 years ago, I was unemployed. When I had had enough of rejections and ran out of other options, I found myself at Burger King thinking any pay check is better than none. The manager said he was really impressed, but unfortunately I was over qualified so he wouldn't give me the job. He said he didn't want to waste time training me when I would leave the minute I got offered a better job. I was really pissed at the time, but 2 weeks later, when I was offered a really good job in my field I understood. He was right, because there was no way in hell I would have stayed at BK and given up that job.

So, how would you define that as being over-educated?

Because you could not get a job that you did not want anyway?

What if you did not have that education and BK was your only option?

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RE: You never know who's working at the drugstore. - 6/7/2010 9:55:01 AM

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It is over-educated when you cannot find a job in your field, or others, because he perception is that you will leave as soon as something "better" opens up. The better is because of your education, something that someone with no education doesnt seem to have a problem with. An associate in Business can get a job as an office clerk. They may offer that position to someone with a BS in Business. An MBA? nope.

Employers recognize that, for the well educated, there is no job satisfaction with a position that is far beneath their educational history.

This is what is meant by being overeducated. You can literally price yourself out of a job.

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