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Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/7/2010 10:53:07 PM)
I'd be worried about someone calling the cops, or if cops were in the vinicinity them coming over, if they saw it, I don't think they could not arrest your mistress if the state your in is a mandatory arrest for acts considered DV. quote: ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009 i've had a Mistress slap me in the face in public because She felt that i did something that was unacceptable. Might someone have looked and felt offended by that? Possibly. Do i care? Not really.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/7/2010 10:56:23 PM)
That's fine, but then what are they going to do when it's fat women lifting fat men's aprons of fat, and they fit the TNG age. People should learn to just not look if they want to be at a play space and those with bodies different than those looking want to play too. The obese people have just as much a right to be there as the not obese, and who knows maybe the obese find the skinny little twigs disgusting to look at too. quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael TNG groups form because they don't want to see fat middle aged women wearing corsets that are two sizes too small lifting the fat tire of an overweight balding man to torment his cock.

Rochsub2009 -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 12:05:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom I'd be worried about someone calling the cops, or if cops were in the vinicinity them coming over, if they saw it, I don't think they could not arrest your mistress if the state your in is a mandatory arrest for acts considered DV. Perhaps it's a function of me living in the state of New York, but people tend to mind their own business. Most people prefer not to get involved. You can do almost anything, and nobody will say a thing. Moreover, for a minor incident like that, the police are not likely to get involved. Particularly if i am not making a fuss about it. If they came over and asked a question, i'd say that "everything is fine", and they'd walk away. i guess some people live in places where people are much more sensitive, or the police have far less work to do. You're not the first person that i've heard say that the police will arrest someone for something that they would NEVER arrest a person for where i live. And the idea of mandatory arrest for a minor offense is almost unheard of. Our courts and prisons are too full, and the police already have too much paperwork.

geishagurl -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 1:48:28 AM)
Private for me...

JstAnotherSub -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 6:08:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009 quote: ORIGINAL: Aynne88 I am not whining Michael, if I read this correctly, I am working under the assumption that by the comments given it is truly public. Not appropriate. Aynne88, Earlier in the thread, someone said that kissing in public was inappropriate. Someone else said that helping one's Domme put her shoes on is inappropriate. i stated that many feel that seeing gay couples in public is offensive. How do you feel about those acts? Giving oral sex in public is illegal, and thus, is slightly irrelevant. It takes the focus off of the murkier (and more legal) activities that the BDSM community seems to have little consensus on. But one things seems certain to me. The majority of the BDSM community seems to believe that we should be in the closet (even if we're doing nothing illegal). Actually, earlier in the thread, someone (me), said she did not like to even see folks swapping spit in public, and said that seeing a "boy" who was not wearing a tag indicating he worked at the store kneeling and putting on shoes for a lady, who then strutted around, would make her go ewww. She (I) also admitted freely to being a prude about such things. It was my opinion offered in reply to a comment about the kneeling boy and strutting around would not offend ANYONE. PDA's are something that most hold very strong opinions of. In the beginning, I thought this thread was about public play, ie public dungeons etc. The shoe comment made me take it in a different way, which I then commented on. If you are at 1763, play al you want to, sit your slave by the door with a sign saying she is a worthless cunt who is being punished, I do not care. Do what you wish to in public. I have not said I would do anything to stop you, nor have I said I was right in my feelings. I have to be able to look me in the mirror, as do you. It is all good. But, if I am out with my grandmother and you choose to start using the word motherfucker every other word while standing near us, I will give you an eat shit and die look. If you continue, I will speak to you my self or ask someone in charge to speak to you, depending on where we are, and depending on if I can move away from you discreetly without changing my plans for the day. Seems to me that the hostility you have displayed could indicate you are not as comfortable with your choices as you claim to be. I offer mine up as this is how I feel, I know it is not the norm, but it is me. You seem to need to put me down and act as if you are right. Go for it. Just remember that "right" is in the eyes of the beholder, and folks who think they are right normally do not feel a need to put others down who see things differently. Personally, I smile and turn away and mumble "Bless their hearts".

LadyPact -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 7:03:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub PDA's are something that most hold very strong opinions of. In the beginning, I thought this thread was about public play, ie public dungeons etc. The shoe comment made me take it in a different way, which I then commented on. If you are at 1763, play al you want to, sit your slave by the door with a sign saying she is a worthless cunt who is being punished, I do not care. Funny you should mention it. I'll be there Friday. LOL. I may be partially responsible for the thread drift on this one, so I'll take the responsibility. When I mentioned the shoes, it's literally a case of ones that I need help with getting them on with My eyesight, or they've needed adjustment while I'm already out. That leaves Me two choices. Go without the shoe, which most people would agree isn't fitting in shopping areas (as in no shoes, no shirt, no service) or My other half helping Me get it back on. Seriously, I think more people want Me to have shoes on in the mall than are worried if My husband helps Me on with a shoe. Some of this thread makes Me wonder if this is dipping more into authority issues than 'freedom of kink'. Even 1763 has no play areas (where food is served and such) and I don't have issue one with not playing there and using the rest of the dungeon instead. You won't catch Me as the type to stick a sign on someone that they're being punished. Anytime I've punished one of the boys, one look on their face is enough for other people to be aware. I don't need to announce it to the world to prove My authority. What I do think is that people should have roughly the same standard on the issue, whether they are kinky or not. I'm not going to tell My boy not to wear his collar at a restaurant any more than I would suggest that someone wouldn't wear their wedding ring.

JstAnotherSub -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 8:11:28 AM)
Have fun at 1763. I have been invited many times to go there, but I would imagine, after reading this thread and my opinions on certain things, you can see why I never went-lol. I have only heard great things about that place and who knows, one day my prudish ass may go.....naaaaaaaa, if I aint over it by now, at the ripe old age of 48, I reckon I will leave the public stuff to ya'll. And that is ok for everyone.

angelikaJ -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 8:18:42 AM)
I tend to be shy. Having said that, I love very discreet public play. (Is it truly "public play" if no one sees it... even if just the risk is there? ) How about auditory public play? Things being discussed when they might be overheard?

LadySilver0523 -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 8:18:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: leadership527 Interesting question. Understand that I am about as vanilla as they come aside from the whole M/s thing. My sensibilities generally conform to the vanilla world. I don't "play". All that being said, I'm a huge believer in "When in Rome, wear a toga". If I went to some place were it was socially acceptable to play in public and I had the inclination to play, then I would. In other words, I think "what is and is not acceptable" is an interaction between myself and the social norms of the environment I find myself in. I SOOOOOOOO love your opinions! I feel the exsact same way. Honestly. I used to have HUGE hang ups simply with public displays of effection. Let alone public play or the big taboo : Exabitionism... lol But now, thanks to a person that I had the pleasure of meeting, he introduced me to the thrill of what it's like to be IN a public place, but only have the threat or thrill of someone POTENTIALLY seeing you. Now I like it to some degree. I'm not into like, being chained to a tree out side in BDSM attire and left there to be used by whomever the next passer by may be. BUT! That being said, it's not as if it doesn't cross my perverse mind. lol *Anyways. :D Thanks again for your insightful post.* *Be well,* *Silver*

Rochsub2009 -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 8:26:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub Seems to me that the hostility you have displayed could indicate you are not as comfortable with your choices as you claim to be. I offer mine up as this is how I feel, I know it is not the norm, but it is me. JstAnotherSub, Actually, my comments were meant rather generically. i wasn't addressing you specifically. If my comments drew upon your examples, it is because they were some of the more generic ones that i thought fit more into the grey areas. Sorry if you thought that i was attacking you. You are free to be offended by anything that you choose to be. My comments were more a rant against runaway sensitivity and political correctness, which i see as a huge problem in the U.S. (i have no idea where you are located). Political correctness is a problem that i am VERY passionate about, and have very strong views about (if you haven't noticed). The OP made a generic statement about public play, and then never came back to clarify what she meant. So the thread drifted. Personally, i NEVER see people playing in public. That doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. But i can't remember ever seeing anyone being flogged in public. i can't ever remember anyone being made to wear a sign that says "I am Master XYZ's cum slut" in public. i can't remember anyone ever being urinated on in public. So since i have never seen those things happen in public, i started talking about some more subtle aspects of BDSM (or more specifically, D/s, since that is my preferred kink) that CAN or DO occur in public. i know that the BDSM community is very divided on those issues. Some believe that ALL aspects of BDSM should occur in private, and that we should not expose the non-consenting public to our kink. i tend to disagree with that position. But i understand that it is the position held by many (possibly the majority). Lady Albatross then took it to a level that even i disagree with. She supported people's right to do things publicly that are illegal in most places. i disagreed with that. i don't support the idea of performing acts which might get someone arrested. My overall point has been that there are areas of WIITWD that i don't believe that we should be shy about or ashamed of. If we are not hurting anyone, then why should they care? Any activity, even legal ones, has the potential to offend someone. We can't live our lives avoiding even the possibility of offense (IMO). Just as i believe that it is time for gays to stand up for their right to be who they are, and to be free of judgment for it, i also think that the BDSM community needs to be more open and to educate the broader community that we are not "sick" or "disgusting", and that there is nothing wrong with WIITWD. Does that mean that we should start performing public scat? No, of course not. But should i feel comfortable helping my Domme with her shoes in public? i think i should, and i take exception to anyone who says that i shouldn't be allowed to do that. But once again, i chose your example generically, and i was not attacking you. Frankly, i never even paid attention to who provided the examples that i cited. Bottom line is that the OP never clarified her question, so the thread drifted. Sorry if i used it to rant against political correctness.

LadySilver0523 -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 8:42:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael TNG groups form because they don't want to see fat middle aged women wearing corsets that are two sizes too small lifting the fat tire of an overweight balding man to torment his cock. [:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@] [:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(] [:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@] You, shall I say Sir?? Hmmmm... debates this for a moment Naaa.... , have just succeded in PISSING me right the FC# off! Now, I understand a few things about my post. First, I started off with angry faces. Offensive to some, I know. Second, my text is in red. It depicts anger. I'm well aware. Thrid; I'm typing some words in capital letters. Also depicts anger. I know. smiles and nods matter of factly* But, it's not going to change the fact that, as stated, you've upset me. Why? Here it is; I'm 5' 11". I weigh 285 lbs. Ew right? laughs You have NO idea what I look like. I'm hot. Smokin' hot. And all muscle expect for a bit of chub around my hips thighs and butt just like the majority of MOST women in this world have. And NO(!) I am NOT a BBW. Even though that "lable" doesn't particularly bother me, I'm just not. Plain and simple. I have an hour glass figure and my mesurements are 38 34 40. That's starting from the chest and working down to the hips. So, before you JUDGE "fat" people that wear corsets that are two sizes to small, perhaps you should take the time to ask them WHY! Perhaps they wear them to make themselves feel smaller. Perhaps they wear them because they've tried every damnedable DIET on the face of this planet and have had NO sucess. Perhaps, just perhaps, it's because they have eatting issues or disorders that they've not been able to master or overcome because of childhood issues or traumas that YOU don't even know about or couldn't possibly even BEGIN to comprehend. (Obviously.... smirks in his general direction in a disgusted manner) So, next time before you say something calous and cold and uncaring, maybe you should think about what you say and think about the fact or possiblility that not every one is as "perfect" or good as you. steps down off her soap box I'm done for now. Silver

sweetsub1957 -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 9:22:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom That's fine, but then what are they going to do when it's fat women lifting fat men's aprons of fat, and they fit the TNG age. People should learn to just not look if they want to be at a play space and those with bodies different than those looking want to play too. The obese people have just as much a right to be there as the not obese, and who knows maybe the obese find the skinny little twigs disgusting to look at too. quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael TNG groups form because they don't want to see fat middle aged women wearing corsets that are two sizes too small lifting the fat tire of an overweight balding man to torment his cock. In the first place, this may sound stupid but, what does TNG mean? Secondly, i have to agree w/ Toppingfrmbottom on this. The large have just as much a right to go to play spaces as the more petite do. And since when is a thread about public vs. private play a fat vs. petite issue? We have enough "fat threads" floating around already, we don't need any more. ~sweetsub~

JstAnotherSub -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 9:27:45 AM)
No problem. Thanks for the clarification. I felt I needed to clarify my position to you, since my comments were referenced. For the record, I am in Georgia, close to Atlanta. The rebel flags on pick up trucks are not as common here as you may think. Times are changing everywhere. [;)]

SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 9:29:59 AM)
quote: what does TNG mean? <hijack> TNG stands for "The Next Generation" and generally refers to kinksters in the 18-35 age range. </hijack>

sweetsub1957 -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 9:32:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan quote: what does TNG mean? <hijack> TNG stands for "The Next Generation" and generally refers to kinksters in the 18-35 age range. </hijack> Thanks!

RedMagic1 -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 9:47:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadySilver0523 quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael TNG groups form because they don't want to see fat middle aged women wearing corsets that are two sizes too small lifting the fat tire of an overweight balding man to torment his cock. You, shall I say Sir?? Hmmmm... debates this for a moment Naaa.... , have just succeded in PISSING me right the F*C# off! Your anger-reaction does not affect the truth of his statement. I think that the reason he gave is the #2 reason for TNG existence, with the #1 reason being the "creepiness" of a ton of old guys hitting on the 20-year-old fem whenever she shows up, and the #3 reason being the older doms using the age of the younger doms as a way to dismiss them. There is no question that younger, in-shape people find older, out-of-shape people to be a sexual turnoff. It's like watching their parents having sex. A good friend of mine, longtime SF scene player and former prodomme, once told me: "Attractive people tend not to go to scene events, because they don't have to." She's an exception to her own rule, because she is smoking hot. And, for all I know, her rule might be false. Your emotional reaction to Michael's post, though, suggests to me there is more truth to it than you might like.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 9:54:54 AM)
Sigh. I GO TO SCENE EVENTS!!! And while I have friends in our local TNG group who are made of win, and give me faith in the future of what we loosely term "the lifestyle", they make fat in the 20 yr old version too. Just saying. (Otherwise So agreeing with Redmagic! I wish there was a way to get the boring middle aged guys to stay away from ME) Middle Aged but still Lukewarm Hib

DommeKeliDallas -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 10:12:19 AM)
Look up 'public" and then look up "private."

laurell3 -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 10:13:56 AM)
You think webster includes dungeons in those definitions? People are asking if "public" in your OP includes that. The dictionary isn't going to be so helpful. How about you enlighten us instead?

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Public or Private Displays. (6/8/2010 10:15:38 AM)
quote: There is no question that younger, in-shape people find older, out-of-shape people to be a sexual turnoff. It's like watching their parents having sex. Well there's a significant subset who PREFER "their parents age" people, in whatever shape they are and their company and life perspective. I've now officially only been to two TNG parties in all my experience. I encourage the TNG culture and support it, but I myself don't really feel nearly as comfortable or resonant in that age group, or for those reasons. In fact part of why I tend not to attend parties is because ALL of my partners are over 40 and they are not allowed to attend the local TNG parties. The only reason I happened to go to the one I did is because my girlfriend happens to host so she can be around even though she's over 40. It's a great group of people, TNG needs to be supported and encouraged- but don't suggest all of us under 35s find ourselves fitting in there.

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