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RE: Dommes, why more then one loving caring submissive? - 4/14/2006 2:56:40 PM   
MizSuz


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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

There has to be an even ground at some point where bilateral communication is happening.  That seems to prevent alot of the unbalanced expectations and hurt feelings.  It sounds like in this case, there was communication coming from the domina telling him what/who she was involving herself with, and it was the slave who just simply couldn't deal with the situation he'd put himself into.  Sad.



So much more succinctly and compassionately put than I did.

Well said.

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RE: Dommes, why more then one loving caring submissive? - 4/14/2006 6:12:13 PM   
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I have 1 true love and that is My slave girl bishop,W/we live together and share O/our life.
My other submissives are paying customers that I keep a business type relationship with,Thats not to say I dont care about My "boys",how can you not care when someone is part of daily communications.

I think of My boys as family,the longer they stay in My service the more I trust and the D/s relationship deepens.Perhaps someday I may ask one to live with U/us but for now I'm happy with the way it is.

I do have one boy that I use in ways I dont the others.While I care for him...I love My bishop girl.

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RE: Dommes, why more then one loving caring submissive? - 4/14/2006 9:14:23 PM   
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Variety is the spice of life.  I've got a wonderfully creative imagination and I bore easily.  So why not flit from flower to flower? 

There are different types of intimacy and the type of intimacy I feel with a male sub is not the same type of intimacy I feel with my female life partner.  I guess I have a poly spirit.

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RE: Dommes, why more then one loving caring submissive? - 4/15/2006 3:00:04 PM   
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Greetings everyone,

Some very good questions here, and while I can see how these things can be issues to many of those who live in a Dominant/submissive relationship of the more "romantic" sort -- in other words -- those where it is a committed relationship involving romantic feelings -- much like a marriage. For many of those of us who have multiple submissives and/or slaves, it is much different. Afterall, ask any avid cat-owner -- is ONE cat REALLY enough :). This does not mean that you don't have feelings and pride for those that you own, it merely means that there are more options in all areas of life.

For one, work decreases for all those involved -- making room for extra persuits and even a bit of fun. The work-load for one loving submissive to care for ALL of your needs may be hard on him or her long term. What about his interactions with his or her family? What about a job outside the house, or a career even? What about when you want to be pleased in a sensual fashion late at night and your beloved submissive has to get up early the next morning? Do you REALLY want to wake him or her? What if he or she is sick and you have no one other than yourself to rely on to aid them in recovery? What if he or she just REALLY cannot cook, but want to please you so much.... and you have no one else to rely on.

With multiple submissives, not only is the work load shared, there are also options in case of illness, odd timings and job conflicts. It even gives a chance to rotate duties and avoid matching duties with those who are NOT fit for them -- such as having one who cannot keep an office plant alive be responsible for the household vegetable garden. Much better to stick that individual to serving meals and giving massages. 

Companionship is another good reason to have more than one submissive. As a Dominant there are SOME things I can just not be for those who are owned by me. I can never be their spouse if he or she is a slave. I can never be his or her best friend. I am an Owner. As such, there will need to be other outlets for companionship, friendships, social interactions and in cases even marriage.

There are many more reasons for having more than one, but these two are the top two I can think of right off hand. And yes, there is love involved, but it is not romantic love. There is usually not even "friendship" involved -- but rather the love between a pet/Owner, a more paternal or maternal love, and similar arrangements. Do I love them all equally: No -- but I love them all in their own unique manner. For instance, one who wants to be humiliated and treated like dirt would not likely feel the same or experience my love as one who is a cherished pet of mine.  

Proprietrix stated it thusly:

>A Goddess having more than one worshipper doesn't justify worshipping more >than one God.
How true, that usually ends up with plagues and hail of Fire.

>A Queen having millions in her kingdom would consider it treason if her >countrymen hailed a different Queen.

You have fergotten a good one. A mother can have many children, but a child will usually ONLY have one mother. And that bond of love is stronger than many romantic ones :).

>The basic principal is that these are asymmetrical relationships. The one in power >acquires enthusiasts.

Very true and I agree with it. This is why I think it is possible to have more than one submissive, while it is very rare to serve two houses.

Very many others made good points as well, but I will end my post here :).

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RE: Dommes, why more then one loving caring submissive? - 4/15/2006 3:06:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

The lure of slavery, the adventure of it, and the sexyness of it probably attracts a great number of wannabes --- but when the rubber hits the road only a few are cut out for it --- and even fewer are cut out for it LT --- and even fewer are cut out for it LT - 24/7 --- and even fewer for very LT (two plus years) 24/7.

And the question does have to be asked, "What's in it for the slave?"


I guess I was lucky to get My boy(slave) he has stayed for over 6 years. Some of the comments on the "slave" factor that theres no love or respect ect. is usually crap. I talk with My slave, W/we do just about everything together, he is loved and he knows it, just because he is a slave doesn't mean he can't joke with Me, laugh with Me ect. W/we have alot of fun even though he is a slave, W/we do family things together, now when it comes to the grand kids Mine and his, W/we are grandma and grandpa, as that is all they need to know, I am grandma to his he is grandpa to Mine, no blood relation, no marriage relation. I have alot of respect for him, he being a slave is part of Me and always will be.
 
Everyone tries to point their version of slavery is right well yes true it is right for you,
The abuse comment  that is in any walk of life, boy is My slave, but I will ask him things, no matter what I have done, want to do, he has never said no way  or no Mistress, but he also knows I would not damage him
My slave is My friend, My confident, My lover in My sense of the word.

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RE: Dommes, why more then one loving caring submissive? - 4/15/2006 3:22:50 PM   
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Well said crouchingtigress!  What works for some may not work for others and each of us has to find our way.  I think your post speaks to that quite clearly.  Kudos to you!

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RE: Dommes, why more then one loving caring submissive? - 4/15/2006 3:29:28 PM   
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Greetings everyone,

Dusty wrote:

>Nothing wrong with that, but I see a lot of boys who even identify as >"slave" and they want to fall in love and sleep in My bed. 
 
That is obviously not happening in my book either. A slave's place is at my feet, and certainly NOT sleeping nor playing in my bed. In fact, most don't have the right to use my furniture and are under a slew of other restrictions.
 
>I had one boy from Tucson who wanted exclusivity as a live-out, and said >that unfaithfullness, to him, meant even if spanked another boy during >the week, while he was at home in another city, he should have the >same right to be spanked by another Domina. 
 
The slave of mine I found getting spanked by another Domina without my express permission for this is no longer my slave after I found out. End of discussion. I'm highly territorial and I will not share what is my property just as I would not lend my vibrator out. So yes, I will admit -- in regards to those who are my pets, slaves and submissives -- I'm highly jealous.  Take a slave's attention away from me when I want them to focus on me, and I don't care who you are, or what your motive is -- you are invading my rights and intruding upon my territory. This is especially true with live-ins, and includes my Beloved who is practically my husband.
 
>I got the "that's not fair", (I get that a lot!  *S*) to which I replied..."who >said this was supposed to be fair?". 
 
I get that only occasionally and only from those who do not know me well enough. As for those who are a part of my Household I will usually say -- if I put the man I love, the man who is practically my husband, in chastity and make him eat his dinner sitting on the floor -- what makes you, a slave, feel it is not fair to require such from you?
 
>Did I mention I don't do the romance thing real well, either?  I like being >courted and  treated well.  But I do think men have their place, and it is at >My feet, and not holding My hand. 
 
I do the romance thing fairly well if I am with one who is free. Those who serve me are owned, and an owned persons' place is at my feet.  

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RE: Dommes, why more then one loving caring submissive? - 4/15/2006 3:56:37 PM   
HayaSierra


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ORIGINAL: TeeGO


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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix
Currently, my boy and I are negotiating his love life...*snip*...Instead, we will probably find a compatible female submissive more his age, and she will become my sub as well as his wife.


This sounds very cool. I've never seen anything like this, does anyone else know of such a relationship. From an energy exchange point of view that would be phenomenal.

Just think, the subbie husband and wife would be energetically connected to each other, then in their linked submission they would connected to the Dom.


I will actually be trying to see about arranging similiar for some in my household when the time comes. Not sure how well it will work out, but a male and female that are both slaves and serving in the same household and are coupled as owned slaves will not only be very good for me, but may also provide them both with the last missing piece in their lives. For what it is worth, I think it CAN indeed work out, and probably better than most of us might think.

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RE: Dommes, why more then one loving caring submissive? - 4/15/2006 4:00:21 PM   
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Speaking for myself. I only need one devoted sub to be my precious pet.

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RE: Dommes, why more then one loving caring submissive? - 4/15/2006 4:29:50 PM   
HayaSierra


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Greetings,

This is where it comes down to beliefs and styles of Dominance. To me a slave is a slave. Simple as that, and from what I have heard from those who are mine, I'm still rather gentle in the whole matter -- but they understand that just because I allow them some measure of kindness (Such as to have a few possessions) -- it is not weakness and it is not to be taken for granted. And yes, cloudboy, there ARE indeed people -- some quite well to do people who are seeking that sort of slavery that me and Dusty and Tucsan and others are speaking about here.  And those who think we are being awefully rash, what about those in the past whose main passion in life was to live in a monestary -- deprived of all wordly belongings and quietly suffering by various means? Are they wrong to seek such for the reasons they are seeking it? Is the individual who runs the monestary wrong for making one of those give up all things before entering through the doors? Yes, BDSM and Modern forms of slavery ARE consensual, but that does not always make them have to be "fair". Because there are still those who miss one or more aspects of the olden days -- who crave that sort of control, that real ownership that they cannot get anywhere else. To them it truly is -- don't kill me otherwise all goes. This does not mean that they would neccessarly be treated roughly -- it merely means -- their treatment the same as making choices is no longer in their right. They are no longer free. The only right they reserve is the right to leave.  My Beloved understands this as he is Owned and Collared. Those who are mine -- long distance or face to face understand this, even some that are not in the BDSM community understand this as well, because for us it is about culture -- this is a part of my culture, and a part of their culture. 

In defense of those who are feeling that this is wrong and the worst thing that they have ever heard, I will be the first one to accept and admit that this life -- as I practice it in my house -- is not for 99% of those in the BDSM community. But you know what? The 1% who are seeking this have perhaps a handful of Owners who can fulfill that need for them. 1% of a community as large as the BDSM community is still a LOT of people who have just as much a right as a traditional person to find what they are seeking! 

Just remember, one man's least favorite food is another man's favorite food!

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

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ORIGINAL: ServiceNTucson

The concept of "fairness" in slavery has always amused me. Slavery has absolutely nothing to do with fairness, and vice versa.

(snip)


Bzzzzzzzzzzzttt HELLO, HELLO anyone in there????? Slavery in the context of a BDSM is a consensual relationship. (Snip)


Yes, and if you don't like it that way (in other words, if you feel like you should be a different sort of slave) then don't consent to it.  There are those who say that slavery is slavery.  (Snip)




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