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juliaoceania -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 12:15:27 PM)
quote: I suppose an atheist could believe their life force became chicken soup after death. It wouldn't make them less of an atheist to hold such a belief. You are such an arrogant condescending nasty person.... All I can say is wow, I am almost tempted to make you my first ignore, and that is saying something if you know how many fuckwits I read regardless of the garbage they spew...

brainiacsub -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 12:40:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania BULLSHIT... read through the thread... all the snarky potshots, all the assumptions about the article by people who obviously did not read it... he did not mention god first, Atheists on this thread did, why? Because many of you are zealots....and again, this is not a scientific thread... HELLO? are you paying attention? I do pay attention, which is why I disagree with you. I and the other atheist "zealots" have much experience debating Firm and his beliefs. The people most familiar with him understood exactly what he was trying to say and called him on it. Firm made this a scientific thread by bringing quantum physics in to the discussion. Most atheists would have been content just ridiculing the article on it's own merits. Firm upped the ante by trying to bridge science and religion, which he fails at miserably in every thread where the subject is broached. Go and re-read Vincent's response to him. That sums it up quite well. As for the rest, I didn't come here to argue with you. I've stated my opinion and you certainly have yours. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

ModeratorSixteen -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 12:43:45 PM)
Enough now please and stick to the topic.

juliaoceania -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 1:42:14 PM)
quote: The people most familiar with him understood exactly what he was trying to say and called him on it. Firm made this a scientific thread by bringing quantum physics in to the discussion. For those paying attention to the score... This is a thread based upon the nature of time and space and human consciousness from the standpoint of if everything is happening at once without an observer to order "time" then nothing really dies... Quantum theory covers these ideas... Whomever wants to talk about string theory, holographic universe, parallel universes, Schroeder's Cat in regard to the observer.... that is relevant to the topic...

GotSteel -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 1:55:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania There is also a huge diff between nonreligious and Atheist... just in case ya didn't know... Do two words for the same thing really count as a huge difference?

Moonhead -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 1:56:09 PM)
Schroedinger's cat isn't relevant to any discussion that isn't about how quantum theory doesn't work. That was the whole point of that posit in the first place.

Louve00 -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 2:03:38 PM)
Julia, your theory (or what you read and posted) on rebooting life after death reminds me so much of reincarnation. In fact so much so that I googled the two of them. Posting my results would definitely derail your thread though. But I learned...and learned inadvertently thru you, too. As far as adding to the discussion in your thread, I have to be truthful and say I didn't learn enough to comment.....yet! [:)]

juliaoceania -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 2:11:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania There is also a huge diff between nonreligious and Atheist... just in case ya didn't know... Do two words for the same thing really count as a huge difference? You seriously believe these terms are identical in meaning? They aren't. I am sure if they were the terms would not have been separated for the purposes of this poll of the scientific community... because they were presented as different options this should be an indication to you that they in fact are different things altogether... but in case the logic of what I just stated escapes you... lets just present some links to further demonstrate that many people think of Atheism and not having a religious affiliation as two separate things.... quote: Irreligion is an absence of, indifference towards, and/or hostility towards religion.[3] Depending on the context, it may be understood as referring to atheism, deism, nontheism, agnosticism, ignosticism, antireligion, skepticism, freethought, or secular humanism. Irreligious people may have convictions equal in depth to those of religious adherents. For instance, followers of the life stance of Humanism may regard themselves as just as deeply believing in their life stance as corresponding to any religious belief. Although people classified as irreligious might not follow any religion, not all are necessarily without belief in the supernatural or in deities;[original research?] such a person may be a non-religious/non-practicing theist or even an agnostic theist.[citation needed] In particular, those who associate organized religion with negative qualities, but still hold spiritual beliefs, might describe themselves as irreligious or agnostic theist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion Now back to the topic, or feel free to have this discussion further in a thread labeled "What do you think nonreligion means?"

juliaoceania -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 2:15:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Louve00 Julia, your theory (or what you read and posted) on rebooting life after death reminds me so much of reincarnation. In fact so much so that I googled the two of them. Posting my results would definitely derail your thread though. But I learned...and learned inadvertently thru you, too. As far as adding to the discussion in your thread, I have to be truthful and say I didn't learn enough to comment.....yet! [:)] I cannot claim this article has my stamp of "belief" behind it, but it certainly made me think. I like things that make me think, and since you got something of value out of it, that makes me happy I posted it....

GotSteel -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 3:54:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: At death, we all know, consciousness is gone, Sorry, but we don't know this...in fact we know nothing about death except that the body ceases to function...beyond that it is all speculation. If consciousness is dependent upon the brain then it follows that the consciousness won't function once the brain is dead. If consciousness isn't dependent upon the brain then how does anesthesia work?

Aileen1968 -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 4:07:34 PM)
Really late to this thread.... It really doesn't matter to me what anyone other than myself thinks about death and beyond. I get immense comfort in believing in souls and an afterlife. Do I think there are angles playing harps on clouds? No. If I did, I'd be pissed that I lost the phone number of that weed dealer. I think we are energy. Energy can't just disappear. I know I feel my mother's and father's energy with me at times. Whether it's true or not doesn't matter. It's true in my brain and the warmth and comfort it gives me is priceless and has gotten me through incredibly rough times.

chiaThePet -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 4:19:09 PM)
That's not afterlife silly. That's just Shore's cum splatter adorning the wall, taking on the likeness of Geezus. chia* (the pet)

BitaTruble -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 4:23:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: At death, we all know, consciousness is gone, Sorry, but we don't know this...in fact we know nothing about death except that the body ceases to function...beyond that it is all speculation. If consciousness is dependent upon the brain then it follows that the consciousness won't function once the brain is dead. If consciousness isn't dependent upon the brain then how does anesthesia work? Good question. I don't believe that consciousness is dependent on the brain but on the spirt and energy within us. While our spirit/energy remains in the body it is subject to chemical inducements. When the spirit leaves the body, the consciousness goes with it which is why an out of body experience allows your body to continue to function.. but you are an onlooker to what your body is doing.. the brain continues to move the arms and legs but you get to watch the whole thing from outside yourself. It's pretty cool actually.

Politesub53 -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 4:45:43 PM)
What happens when you die ? The family argue over who gets the TV and who gets the clapped out car. Then they all get sloshed and run you down for not leaving them any cash. [;)]

Aileen1968 -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 5:04:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chiaThePet That's not afterlife silly. That's just Shore's cum splatter adorning the wall, taking on the likeness of Geezus. chia* (the pet) Welcome back fucker.

GotSteel -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 6:45:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen1968 I think we are energy. Energy can't just disappear. Yes humans do use energy to function but then so do computers. Yes energy cannot be created or destroyed but does that mean that our old broken computer are playing solitaire in the sky?

rulemylife -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 7:39:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marie2 quote: ORIGINAL: Syrox quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: marie2 I just have a hard time believing that it's all as simple as live, die, become fertilizer. That's because we're all God's special creations. Some more "Special" than others. And some just complete assholes. And some find their beliefs so sacred that they cannot be questioned. Does it really frighten you so much that this might be all there is?

rulemylife -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 7:43:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg RML, the links between Dyslexia and High IQ are well noted and have been for years. She didn't make an absolute statement for you to attack. Whose statement are you referring to?

rulemylife -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 7:51:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY I'm glad to know that you two are the final fonts of all wisdom, and that no one can advance the boundaries of science and consciousness beyond what you already know. Because you two have all the answers already. Must be nice to be such a "super-geniuses". ...............Oh, yeah ...If so, then this could explain many of the more difficult to explain "psychic" experiences and other dimly understand aspects of human experience, especially in death, near death and religious and psychic experiences. This could even lead to the scientific possibility of a "undying soul" which consists of an imprint that human consciousness has on the underlying structure of the universe. Or that the universe itself is one huge, conscious information storage and manipulation system. (Can you say "god"?) Of course, this is just speculation, but what I find interesting is that some serious scholars are positing some of those possibilities, and that there may actually be scientific answers to "the meaning of life" and the existence of "god" and the "soul". You two, of course, may continue to be content and not be interested, since you are already have all the answers. Me, I like to dream of possibilities, sometimes. Firm No, what you like to dream of are wonderful little fantasies that help you sleep better. Come back and talk to me when your fantasies move beyond speculation and you have one tiny tangible bit of proof.

marie2 -> RE: What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots (6/16/2010 7:51:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife And some find their beliefs so sacred that they cannot be questioned. Does it really frighten you so much that this might be all there is? You must have missed the post in which I said this.... I personally don't need to believe in an afterlife, and I don't have a hard time accepting that it all ends someday. I'm not frightened in the least. For the record, you didn't question anything. You came back with a cheap shot under a false assumption with regards to where I was coming from. And you turned it into an "us vs them" discussion. If you wanted to discuss, question, or bounce things around in a mutually respectful manner, that would be one thing. But you haven't done that here. You've done nothing but take people's beliefs and contemplations as some kind of personal afront to your own, and you've responded with defensiveness and insults. I have no use for it.

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