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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
It would seem to me that the only way to learn anything is to first admit that we don't know.  Discovery stops when we claim to have the answer and that there is no need to look any further.

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ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

No, it doesn't, Treasure.

Atheism - by definition, absence of belief - does not require faith. It requires logic and reason, and common sense. Your choosing not to believe in Santa Clause has nothing to do with faith, but instead is the most logical conclusion you could make given the lack of evidence he exists.

The rest of your post was crap, but nice try.

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So many vital nutrients not going into the earth

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ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

No, it doesn't, Treasure.

Atheism - by definition, absence of belief - does not require faith. It requires logic and reason, and common sense. Your choosing not to believe in Santa Clause has nothing to do with faith, but instead is the most logical conclusion you could make given the lack of evidence he exists.

The rest of your post was crap, but nice try.

One who believes that there is no deity.  (Merriam-Webster)

A person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings. (Dictionary.com)

Someone who believes that God or gods do not exist.  (Cambridge)

1 a : to have a firm religious faith
  b : to accept as true, genuine, or real
2 : to have a firm conviction as to the goodness, efficacy, or ability of something
3 : to hold an opinion

2. to have confidence or faith in the truth of (a positive assertion, story, etc.); give credence to.
3. to have confidence in the assertions of (a person).
4. to have a conviction that (a person or thing) is, has been, or will be engaged in a given action or involved in a given situation: The fugitive is believed to be headed for the Mexican border.
5. to suppose or assume; understand

To think that something is true, correct or real

Belief; the assent of the mind to the truth of what is declared by another, resting solely and implicitly on his authority and veracity; reliance on testimony.

The assent of the mind to the statement or proposition of another, on the ground of the manifest truth of what he utters; firm and earnest belief, on probable evidence of any kind, especially in regard to important moral truth.

That which is believed on any subject, whether in science, politics, or religion; especially (Theol.), a system of religious belief of any kind; as, the Jewish or Mohammedan faith; and especially, the system of truth taught by Christ; as, the Christian faith; also, the creed or belief of a Christian society or church.

Belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion.
Firm belief in something for which there is no proof.
Complete trust.
Something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs

1.  confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2.  belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.  belief in god or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4.  belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5.  a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
6.  the obligation of loyalty or fidelity to a person, promise, engagement, etc.: Failure to appear would be breaking faith.
7.  the observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise, oath, allegiance, etc.: He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent troubles.
8.  Christian Theology . the trust in God and in His promises as made through Christ and the Scriptures by which humans are justified or saved.

Great trust or confidence in something or someone.

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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls
, and energy is dissipated at a constant rate

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

...if the theists and spiritualists who frequent these forums would just admit it, admit that their beliefs are based in faith - by definition, a belief in something for which there is no evidence - then these threads wouldn't deteriorate to shit all the time. But no, they come out here and rewrite history, or interpret it badly, or invent some pseudoscience, or discredit good science, or quote bad science, or otherwise employ fallacies of logic or misdirection in an effort to provide justification for their beliefs...

And if the atheists who frequent these forums would just admit it, admit that their beliefs are based in faith - by definition, a belief in something for which there is no evidence - then these threads wouldn't deteriorate to shit all the time. But no, they come out here and rewrite history, or interpret it badly, or invent some pseudoscience, or discredit good science, or quote bad science, or otherwise employ fallacies of logic or misdirection in an effort to provide justification for their beliefs...

It works both ways, yanno.  [8|]

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Again, one of the dumbest things I have ever seen written out here.

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

You have to have a belief. But it is not based on faith....

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ORIGINAL: brainiacsub
Resorting to ridicule because you don't have anything better to offer just makes you look foolish.

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ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

You know what's getting old and worn out, Treasure, is the tiresome posting style you share with the hubby of cutting and pasting definitions from various sources when you don't have an original thought of your own. Do you guys sit around the dinner table and discuss this as a family or something?

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ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

And for the record, of the 756 dumbest things ever said out here, you own 615 of them. I've been counting.

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ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

Best leave the discussions to those who can actually, you know...think.

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ORIGINAL: DarwinsLilHelper

New Age Horseshit.

Do you have some crystals or aromatherapy stuff that your trying to sell?

Nature loving tree huggers, that can't accept the one inescapable lesson of Nature, Because natures truth is to horrible for them to contemplate.

This completely tells me you did not bother to read the article... how fucking typical of atheist know it alls

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Words have meaning. You and others here like to try to twist them around to make them mean what you want. Believe me when I say that I get no great joy from having to post dictionary definitions for you. I sincerely wished that you were able to look words up for yourself. Nevertheless, you and others like you can't seem to accept that you are wrong unless you are provided with irrefutable proof from an unbiased source.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Yet when I call on you to validate one of your constant bullshit assertions you find yourself wanting...or better yet you offer up ....well everyone knows that such and such is so....but no validation just opinion.

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
So why would it be impossible for the information, brainwaves to continue to exist?  We already know that radio waves and television broadcasts never completely disappear even if they are broken up into tiny pieces.  So why couldn't we continue to exist?  Why is that totally unreasonable? 

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
Yes humans do use energy to function but then so do computers. Yes energy cannot be created or destroyed but does that mean that our old broken computer are playing solitaire in the sky?

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
So, the interesting speculation is that as the research into quantum physics and string theory advances, there is a chance that we may find that "consciousness" is not wholly a chemical brain reaction, but may be also based on information storage that extends outside the body into the wider quantum universe, in a holographic sense. 

If so, then this could explain many of the more difficult to explain "psychic" experiences and other dimly understand aspects of human experience, especially in death, near death and religious and psychic experiences. 

This could even lead to the scientific possibility of a "undying soul" which consists of an imprint that human consciousness has on the underlying structure of the universe.

Or that the universe itself is one huge, conscious information storage and manipulation system.  (Can you say "god"?)

Of course, this is just speculation, but what I find interesting is that some serious scholars are positing some of those possibilities, and that there may actually be scientific answers to "the meaning of life" and the existence of "god" and the "soul".

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

Now... do you care to stick to posting on topic or shall we continue this little hissy fit until a moderator shows up to publicly spank us?