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To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 8:20:34 PM

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I'm sure we're all familiar with those people who want to kill all pitbulls (or, if you're one of 'those' people, American Staffordshire Terrier). These are the people that claim putbulls kill babies and small children and are only good for dogfights and hurting the elderly.

And then there are the people that love pitbulls. Pitbulls are beautiful, gentle creatures! Look at all the pictures on the internet of pitbulls snuggling with babies! Oh goodness, those pitbull haters sure are dumb f*cks!

I'm just going to throw this out there - pitbulls are f*cking scary.

I was walking my dog home the other day. And out of nowhere* this giant-ass pitbull slams in to my dog and tried to tear out his throat. I had to drag my dog out into the street (my dog is about 90 pounds, only 8 less than I) and hope we didn't get hit by any cars. If I hadn't put a head collar on my dog, there was no way I would have been able to get him away, and he would have taken serious damage.

As it was, after about 3 seconds of struggle, my dog had huge bite marks in his chest. He bled a puddle on my bed while we were putting a towel down in the car to take him to the vet. Now my mattress looks like a woman gave birth on it and my dog is on medication and can hardly walk.

Now, I don't hate pitbulls. The owner said after the fact that she was a perfectly good dog who had never gotten out before - but let me tell you:

That was by far the single most frightening experience of my life. I am not a crier, and I cried all the way home. It was terrifying.

So yes, most of this was a rant - and if you're a Glasgow Superfan, this is part of the reason why I have not been posting recently. But still, now I know where pitbull haters come from. Because pitbulls are f*cking scary.

*It was out of someone's back yard, but stop nitpicking and pay attention.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 8:27:51 PM

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A glasgow superfan?

Uhm...anyway...yeah...I used to own a pitbull. It was a good dog that never hurt anyone. But I don't trust most of 'em. I have also owned two chows. These dogs could be climbed on (by children) pulled, prodded, pushed, and they were big babies. But according to others, they have a reputation as well.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 8:28:29 PM

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I got attacked by a Brendal in Jacksonville, way back, like 20 years ago - I've carried a knife ever since, one with an extremely sharp, Tanto blade.

Fucking dog owners are the problem, it used to be real bad when they were popular, because half the fucking things were inbred - you can tell an inbred Rottweiler by the depth of the crease in the skull - that presses down on their brains and makes them very unsociable.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 8:31:41 PM

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quote:

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A glasgow superfan?

Some people here are really.... really.... "interested" in me

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I got attacked by a Brendal in Jacksonville, way back, like 20 years ago - I've carried a knife ever since, one with an extremely sharp, Tanto blade.

Fucking dog owners are the problem, it used to be real bad when they were popular, because half the fucking things were inbred - you can tell an inbred Rottweiler by the depth of the crease in the skull - that presses down on their brains and makes them very unsociable.

A Rottweiler chased me down the block when I was five. Oddly, that didn't deter me from loving dogs. And I don't think the pitbull will either. But still, dangerous dogs are scary.

The fellow who owned the dog was very nice, and said that the only other dog on the lot - that dog's mother - had recently been put down. I suppose that might have been troublesome to the dog that attacked me, but I'm not quite sure it is an excuse.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 8:31:50 PM

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I am sorry to hear of the incident you went through but am very glad your dog will recover. I have been a professional trainer since 1977 and know pits very well. I have trained too many to count and personally owned and loved 4. Pits are awesome dogs when they are raised and trained properly. The biggest problem w/ pits is usually negligence, carelessness or ignorance on the part of their owner. These dogs are terriers and can be tenacious. No one should own a pitbull without socializing it, taking it to obedience classes and monitoring the dog carefully when it is outside.
After an incident such as this I can understand you being wary of pitbulls. Keep in mind that 95% (or higher) of ALL bite incidents can in some way be attributed to human error. In this case it sounds like someone left a gate open, door ajar, chain broke (dogs should never be chained) etc. I have a disfigured up arm due to a 132lb Rottweiler attack that I have to take the blame for. For a long time I too was wary about male Rotts even tho it was my fault. I sympathyze w/ you. Good luck w/ your dog.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 8:39:36 PM

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you can tell an inbred Rottweiler by the depth of the crease in the skull - that presses down on their brains and makes them very unsociable.

I believe if you check with vets or credible breeders you will find there is no proven way to tell if a Rott or any other dog is inbred other than by researching the pedigree. (Credible meaning breeders who breed to improve the breed...not to make a buck.) Also, a dog that is deemed unsociable is not necessarily *inbred*.....usually indicates the dog was not socialized and exposed properly as a puppy during critical developement periods. Hope this helps.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 8:50:35 PM

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I love dogs. I do not love all dog owners. My cousin's dog was nearly killed by an amstaff mix that her neighbor let run free. I hope that the dog that attacked yours gets put down, and your vet bills get covered, Glasgow.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 8:56:58 PM

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I love animals period and I personally think the problem typically isn't with the animal but the owner. As animal owners people often forget that they are responsible for training their animals how to behave, how to interact, ect. They also often forget some basic things like keep your dog secure or leashed at all times. I can't count how many times an attack happens b/c of an owners irresponsible actions. I think it should be the owners punished NOT the animal when something happens due to an owners negligence or simple lack of training their animal.

ETA: I dont agree that this dog should be put down but in all reality it probably will unless a pit rescue group steps in and tries to save it.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 9:52:57 PM

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I always laugh at the dude that runs around with a pit bull. they are the equivalent to corvettes as penis extenders.

Stupid choice in a pet.

I am a bad ass cuz I own a pit.

No, you just have a little cock.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 10:00:45 PM

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I always laugh at the dude that runs around with a pit bull. they are the equivalent to corvettes as penis extenders.

Stupid choice in a pet.

I am a bad ass cuz I own a pit.

No, you just have a little cock.

What about the women that own pitbulls????
I got my first pitbull when I was 12 and never owned any other breed...

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 10:06:27 PM

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strap on extender.

Same thing different type of asshole.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 10:08:24 PM

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strap on extender.

Same thing different type of asshole.

LOL...

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 10:23:56 PM

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I'm not a dog person, and I don't know a whole lot about them. But a lot of people on my block own dogs. When I see them walking their various types of dogs, dogs of all breeds start barking their asses off and appear to be aggressing and pulling at their leash to get to the other dog.

Yes, there are many stories of pitbull attacks agaist other dogs and humans, so maybe they are a more aggressive breed than some others, but I would think they can be trained like any other dog, but I don't know.

Someone across the road from me owns two pitbulls, and one of them is forever barking at another persons cat in the window...It will go up to the window where the cat is sitting (inside) and bark and growl and snarl it's ass off with it's teeth ready to devour. I haven't seen any other dogs going that far. The owner of the dogs happens to be an asshole and sits there and allows the dog to do this, instead of removing him from the window.

I'm not a pitbull hater, but have to admit that I fear them and will do anything to avoid them.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 10:29:23 PM

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No dog can ever be trusted with children nor with smaller dogs and small animals. It is as simple as that.

I do agree that pit-bulls are bred only for fighting and for people with murderous intents. They are neither working dogs nor lap-dogs.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 10:30:10 PM

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Wow. That was just grand. Got any more riveting shit you want to share?

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 10:36:54 PM

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First and foremost, let me express heartfelt "Get Well Wishes" to your dog. I'm glad it will be ok.

I totally agree that Pit Bulls can be really scary dogs. However, as others have said, it is typically the training that they receive that makes them bad dogs. I have a friend who owns 2, Duke and Duchess. Duchess is a smaller dog, but with a great temperment. Duke is about 90 pounds and a complete and total dork. I lived with this friend for a while and Duke would sleep with me at night. He was a bed hog. But even when he was in a dead sleep, I could grab him by the collar and move him without worry or problem.

I also had a toy poodle when I first moved in. Neither Duke or Duchess ever went after her. The problem we had was that Duke wanted to play and didn't understand that he could break her leg if he so much as stepped on her (he nearly broke my toe once on the way to the bathroom by stepping on my foot).

My cousin also owns 3 pit bulls (I have only met the 2 older ones). The larger, Cheyenne (she is colored like a palamino pony) is a big gush. That doesn't stop me from hating when her face is in my face since her head and mouth are huge and it looks like she could swallow me in one gulp. But that is MY feelings, not the dog's temperment. In reality, she is very docile and friendly. The poor thing is allergic to everything it seems that results in what looks like psoriasis between her toes, her ears, and all over her belly. She is constantly itching and her skin irritated and STILL she is not vicious.

I'm glad that you realize that an individual dog may not represent the entire breed. Regardless of the owner's "claim" that their dog was not like that, I have no doubt they were completely aware their dog was overly territorial and would go after other animals without hesitation. I'm also willing to bet your dog wasn't the first one it attacked.

Please follow through with a complaint to the police and the local animal control, as well as making sure that the irresponsible owners are required to pay your medical costs for your pet.

Sadly, there is a good chance this dog will be euthanized if this is not the first attack. It is possible to rehabilitate even pit bulls that were raised and trained for fighting (many of the dogs for that football player were), however, the dog should be removed from the care of it's current owners.

To adopt a dog these days from some shelters can be extremely difficult with all the checks they want to do. Sadly, any idiot can buy from a breeder as long as they have the money. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a way to prevent some of these idiots who owned dogs who attacked other dogs, people, etc. from ever owning another? Better for the dogs, that's for sure.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 10:43:17 PM

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No dog can ever be trusted with children nor with smaller dogs and small animals. It is as simple as that.

I do agree that pit-bulls are bred only for fighting and for people with murderous intents. They are neither working dogs nor lap-dogs.

No dog should ever be left alone with children.

Pit Bulls are NOT bred only for fighting or people with murderous intents. That is pure ignorance. They ARE among the terrier breed, which would be considered as part of the working dog group.

Along with irresponsible owners, people uneducated about the breed spreading their ignorance as fact is another huge problem.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 10:45:11 PM

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Wow. That was just grand. Got any more riveting shit you want to share?

Actually yes, but I'm busy teaching my kid to navigate 50 ft waves, 2000 miles from shore so she won't grow up to be afraid of her own shadow.

After that, I gotta run my Hummer through the car wash.

Can I get back to you?

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 10:49:54 PM

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This is a timely post for me. We just got back to Montana where Gary's sister keeps a small herd of dogs. She calls them American Bull Terriers and complains when people call them Pit Bulls. So far this year she's kept them on her own property but we've only been here for 2 weeks. In others years they've been over on our side of the road, usually several together. To be truthful, they scare me when she's not around or when they are over here in a group.

So....are these dogs part of the group called Pit Bulls or not? I'll still be scared when they are loose and over here. Heck, I don't like it when the other neighbor's doberman and dalmation get loose and are over here. Large dogs scare me unless they are my own and I have owned only one large dog. When I was a kid a horny boxer had me holding on to a tree to keep from falling. I was too young to realize what he was trying to do but having a dog like that with his legs around your waist when you are 7 is terrifying.

Glad your dog is recovering. I can imagine how scary that whole thing was.

Almost forgot to add. If the lady who owns the dog has homeowner's insurance, it should pay your vet bill.

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RE: To the haters of pitbull haters -- - 6/16/2010 11:02:11 PM

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The decision to take on such a breed isn't one that should be made lightly, or as a fashion statement. I am generally very comfortable with large, "dangerous" breeds, but I don't trust chows or pits. Just as with the rotties and wolf hybrids that I prefer, there is a constant responsibility. Much of it can be met with proper training from the start. I took my akita/wolf from his mother at 8 weeks and started training him immediately. As an adult, he needed no leash, would not go out an open gate, and could be completely trusted to take a treat from the hand of a toddler.

He scared the shit out of people though. In the sorts of neighborhoods where I have lived most of my life, that's a good thing.

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