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Jeffff -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 2:58:33 PM)

Hey. you can feel the way you want. I will feel the way I want.




UniqueRaven -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 2:59:44 PM)

You know, this thread got me thinking about when i read the thread yesterday between LadyPact and PeonForHer where they were going back and forth telling an erotic story about a submissive man performing orally on another submissive man and having a strap-on used on him for the first time.

And when i got to PeonForHer's post about where this man was being taken for the first time by a Domme with a strap-on - i gotta tell ya, it made me hot. And i had a moment of thinking, "Whoah, am i secretly a Domme or do i have switch tendencies? Eeek!"

But then i reminded myself of what i've already figured out about myself through real life experiences - the part of the fantasy that resonated with me was the submissive part - i kept thinking about how good it must feel for Peon, the fear he must have had, the pleasure he gained by serving LadyPact in that way - i didn't think much about LadyPact's piece at all. It's that deep rooted need in me to please, and to be pleasing that reached out to the submissive male's experience. i know that if you asked LadyPact what "worked" for her about the whole erotic tale experience, it would be entirely different - and a feeling i wouldn't understand at all, because she is on the other side of the kneel.

This is why if any potential Owner of mine wanted me to engage in a "Dominant" act like using a dildo on him, i would - because it pleases him, and he's in control of the situation. Some acts would be easier than others for me, of course, if he wanted me to paddle him or something (highly unlikely) that would be very hard for me because i simply can't figure out how to wield an implement of pain on another human body - seriously, every time i've tried it's turned out to be really funny - it just doesn't compute for me.

But that's the difference - no matter what action i take, i am still deeply submissive, i have a deep need to please, and ultimately, i'm a slave.

No other values needed.




LadyPact -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 3:04:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I still don't think the act itself is important.  Don't get Me wrong.  The obedience sure is.
Really? Gosh. I've obeyed lots of people lots of times in my life and somehow I never saw myself as submitting. At least in my own little corner of the world, it comes down to an internal mindset. Either you see yourself as in control or you don't.

As a specific example. I'll use the classic "I just got pulled over by the highway patrol for speeding" scenario. In that situation, I do not have the authority and I am going to obey. But I don't see myself as submitting. I see myself as having acted dishonorably to start with by speeding and now choosing to act responsibly and 'pay my dues'. At no point would in any way whatsoever that I was not in control of the myself and the surroundings.

To me, it's all a state of mind.

It also can be a state of semantics.

The example is a good one.  The thing is, the imbalance of power is already pre-established.  You didn't obey due to your personal desire to do so.  You did it because you had a consequence scenario that was in place whether you agreed to it or not.  That is a little different than the energy that exists between two people from personal interaction.




domiguy -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 3:06:27 PM)


Jeffff & Me at 2009 Market Days.
[image]http://gaytoday.badpuppy.com/garchive/entertain/market2.jpg[/image]

This year Joan Jett is playing.

I love rock n roll....Gonna bang Jeffff on the juke box baby.






LadyCimarron -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 3:28:21 PM)

Jeffff and Domiguy at 2009 Market Days
[image]http://www.jaunted.com/files/admin/sumowalk.png[/image]

He wouldn't even share his flip-flops with Jeffff.  [:D]




Icarys -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 3:50:16 PM)

lol




LadyAngelika -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 4:30:00 PM)

~FR~

I've never really gotten this issue (no offence to the OP) but really, there is no such thing as a dominant or a submissive act. There is only a dominant or submissive mindset.

The men I date tend to be all doting gentlemen that are submissive to only me. That said, all the Dom men that I really appreciate are just as doting to me when we go out as friends.

I like to control things, but I'm sure that there are things that the man I date will do better than me and that will become his areas of expertise and I will delegate the lead to him on those things.

The dynamic is not determined by the acts.

- LA




leadership527 -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 4:49:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
It also can be a state of semantics.
I have long since learned that in BDSM-land, anything can be anything. But my statement remains, I cannot imagine myself in any situation, with or without authority in that situation, whether or not I was obeying... and me interpreting that situation submissively. YMMV.




Jeffff -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 4:55:13 PM)

Does that waste band make me look fat?


We got black one because everyone knows black is slimming




Aileen1968 -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 4:56:02 PM)

waist




Jeffff -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 4:56:57 PM)

Have you ever thought of another hobby?


I hate you.




Aileen1968 -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 4:57:36 PM)

Heh.




LadyCimarron -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 5:09:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Does that waste band make me look fat?

Nawww baby, you know you look good.


We got black one because everyone knows black is slimming
You don't need slimming.... haven't you heard...."the bigger the meat, the sweeter the treat" [;)]





laurell3 -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 5:11:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

You is one mighty purdy anteater with your Tiara on...


Just fyi he IS singing "I feel pretty" on the phone right now.....still NOT submissive, but hilarious.




laurell3 -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/18/2010 5:17:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Jesus bloody hell child, fucking grow up and listen to people like LP who has more nous, experience and creditability than you are likely to gain over the next 50 years especially when she is trying to help you. STOP acting like a petulant child and ACT LIKE A DOMINANT



This statement and all the other ones people make on this board about the style of posting and role is ridiculous in my opinion. How does one post dominantly or submissively? The only time you see it raised is when someone disagrees with them. It's incredibly foolish.

Any poster is welcome to disagree with any other regardless of experience or lack of time on the boards. It has not one thing to do with role period.




SimplyMichael -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/19/2010 9:41:28 AM)

I got a challenge for those who think there are acts that are dominant or submissive.  I challenge them to lay out an action that is ONLY one or the other.  I will explain how a glorious "Old Swiss Chard" and proud member of "The 12th Order" that most ancient and respected of BDSM houses Dominate perverts anything you can throw at him.




mistoferin -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/19/2010 11:43:12 AM)

I haven't had time to go over the entire thread yet so I apologize if it's already been gone over...

I know that not everyone will agree but to me, I see one act as being submissive. The act of surrender.




SimplyMichael -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/19/2010 11:53:33 AM)

@mistoferin,

I know you were not laying that out to me, but if you have ever seen me in the middle of a really good massage...I am completely surrendered and nothing more than a puddle of goo if they are really good.  Of course, it might take a while till I train them how to massage and scratch me exactly how I like but after that...ooh yeah!




leadership527 -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/19/2010 12:06:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
I got a challenge for those who think there are acts that are dominant or submissive.  I challenge them to lay out an action that is ONLY one or the other.  I will explain how a glorious "Old Swiss Chard" and proud member of "The 12th Order" that most ancient and respected of BDSM houses Dominate perverts anything you can throw at him.
ROFL... I've seen you do this enough. I'm pretty sure there's nothing you can't pervert.




SimplyMichael -> RE: Dominant submisive acts? (6/19/2010 12:23:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: leadership527

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
I got a challenge for those who think there are acts that are dominant or submissive.  I challenge them to lay out an action that is ONLY one or the other.  I will explain how a glorious "Old Swiss Chard" and proud member of "The 12th Order" that most ancient and respected of BDSM houses Dominate perverts anything you can throw at him.
ROFL... I've seen you do this enough. I'm pretty sure there's nothing you can't pervert.


<takes a deep bow>  Jeff, you say the sweetest things!  You will get to meet one of my partners as she is flying in from vacation the night of the party and you can finally get to see me around a woman I love instead of listening to me pine on your couch!  Its going to be a fun weekend and you will see some crazy perverts, if Beach plays you will get to see some CBT that will make your cock ache just watching!




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