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splorff -> RE: Racist Jokes ? (6/27/2010 4:52:30 AM)
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I am not wrong . I actually said that it can be used for peoples of african and asian decent, not that it applies equally. In other words, the colour of a persons skin does not determine if a person is clasified as 'Caucasoid'. This means that a so called joke that uses the word 'caucasoid' or such a derivative, cannot be used just for those of white skin. Negro is a word that determines a persons colour. If you understand where words derive from, you would understand that this is an important distinction. Negro comes from the word 'black', not from the word Negroid. 'Racism' is a pretty erroneous term really anyway, but I'm not gonna digress into that unless necessary.
Are you arguing that Caucasians are of African descent ? What would be the point of that ? If cannot be proven where proto humans emerged. It may have been the place we now call Africa, it might also have been the area now called Saudi Arabia, or Southern Europe. Just because the oldest bones discovered so far, have been in Africa, is not sufficient proof. Saudi, and European soil may not be to the liking of old bones.
Perhaps you are referring to th Arab people who settled in North Africa. These people are Caucasians. I suppose you could say that had African Descent, and they also have Saudi descent.
I understand your distinction between Negro and Negroid. One is a scientific classification, and the other a term used by the general public. .
The Caucasian race does not include Negroids, Negroids are a separate race.
You are certainly correct in saying that a persons skin colour does not make them eligible, or ineligible to be considered a Caucasian. This group consists of Nords, Alpines and Mediteraneans. People of the latter two groups often and sometimes always have dark skin.
You are probably right that the word Negroid does not come from Negro. Quite possibly, it is the other way around. Does this seem important to you ?
I do not think racism is an erroneous term. We have the definitions to help us identify the groups within our species. When one or more people of one race, victimise a member of another race for no valid reason, we have an instance of racism . It seems clear cut to me, and not at all erroneous.
Except that it isn't. cauco would refer to 'a person from caucasus' and would not be the same as calling someone a negro, which you mean 'someone who is black'. People are having the debate about a bit further in this post about american not being a race... in that case then those from caucasus would not be a race either.
I think you are deliberately trying to cause confusion. Negroid and Caucasian are real terms. Negro, is a word used to describe black people. Cauco/ Cauca although, not words as you point out, are similar in form to negro , and may have been useful , in a previous post, in an attempt to clarify the point, that had the word existed, I would not be offended by it, in the way our peer was offended by the use of Negro. I think that that is clear enough. Perhaps we can now move on. Then we can stop using this word which offends this lady.
Nope, guess again it would be logophile. I would also be classed as a glossophile and a Hellenologophile .
Your silly “word” is meaningless. Wordwhore will not be found in any real dictionary, and neither will others of its kind -shadup,anyhoo, innit and leaveitarht. I have a real dictionary, and have no plans to exchange it for a paperback of nonsense, presenting gibberish as English.
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Anyhoo is not a word.
Except that it is and lives in the Oxford and urban dictionaries.
See above.
I'm not a grammarphile
But you describe yourself as a wordwhore. I am presuming by this, that you identify as one who enjoys words, language, reading and writing. Yet you make elementary mistakes. So did I admittedly , but then again, I am not a wordwhore.
I have already (please read again - eek... sorry I could not resist that... is all good ). But in all seriousness, as I said before, it does depend on the context and who is saying the joke. Someone younger than me ? The I would find it pretty lame.
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Well once again dark,, I do not consider that I told a racist joke. It was just a simple pun. And yes, there were black men in it, and they wore baggy pants.
For the second time, you choose not to discuss the context of the joke. I can only conclude that you are fearful of agreeing with me.
It might possibly be, that someone was genuinely offended by the joke, if this is so, I am saddened. However, I doubt it. No offence intended.
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