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ORIGINAL: TNstepsout
When it says compulsion, it doesn't mean there is NO choice. It simply means that ones own ability to choose is harder and becomes swallowed up in the face of that overwhelming hypnotic feeling of control being exerted by the Dominant. It's very much like a hypnotic suggestion. When hypnotized we have choice, hypnotists all say so, it's just that our desire to DO as suggested becomes greater.

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My Karma Account is huge, but I just can't seem to make a withdrawal!!

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What I ment was the thread was an interresting read. To see others thoughts on this type of subject... and I gotta tell ya... I agree with TN on this. Everyones pretty much wrapped in the title.... and not the rest of it... the meaning....

But looking back on your post Bita..... I see what you are saying to me.... huggggggggggggggggssssssssssssssssssss (always respected your post and humor... thanks for stearing me back to rereading yours)

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ORIGINAL: starymists

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ORIGINAL: TNstepsout
I'm going by what's in this article. I think what you are describing is something else. This particular article specifically says it's a compulsion.  "When in the presence of an 'expressing' Dominant male or female this submissive will feel 'compelled' to respond. This is not a thought or voluntary choice. The best way I can describe it is on a primal or instinctive level. When I say 'expressing Dominant' I am describing any individual who is in the midst of a strongly emissive Dominant event."

The article, I think, in some ways is misleading. That particular compulsion that is cited is in rsponse to specific stimuli that would suggest the Dominant might not be in control of him/her self at the time the compulsion to submit happens. "The submissive 'needs' the Dominant to stop . . . to control. In addition this submissive will often 'express' submission. No threat. Calm. The apparent intent is to deflect the Dominant energy, summon or return the Dominant to control of themselves. The interface of unexpected submissive energy will often 'shut down' the explosive or violent scene. Sometimes the submissive will go so far as to 'draw' the 'energy' of the Dominant and they may find themselves within the whirlpool of uncontrolled violence of a Dominant out of control. This reaction or response is irrational to many outside viewers.
 
The article spends a great deal of time talking about the masks that a High End/High Need submissive wears without really talking about what is going on beneath the masks. As the article states, the mask is really an attempt at self-protection. It is an attempt that allows the high end/high need submissive remain in control of him or herself. But underneath the mask is the dual fear of being discovered for who and what they are, coupled with a deep desire to set that part of themselves free. "Their greatest fear and desire is to be recognized, properly identified."
 
The article then goes on to explain how the internet makes a high end/high need submissive more vulnerable to that which they fear. But it never really talks about what it is they are hiding. Because I've know a number of people like this and because I've done the reading on this subject *be happy to provide other articles discussing this in further depth for anyone interested* I'm aware of what it is they are hiding. And that is an intensive vulnerability, an intensive need for reasurance, amongst other things...which was the frame of reference of my original post

I would very much be interested other articles discussing this in further depth if your offer still standsthanks.

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ORIGINAL: SpiritualWater

I feel a true submissive is exceptionally sophisticated ...skilled in the fine nuances of life ...is the desire, envied and respected by all who appreciate life's perfections and flaws and know how to separate all of it properly.   A true submissive can stop an approach with only a simply glance and can reveal her want to be conquered with the whisper of just her breath.  A true submissive is elegance defined possessing articulation extraordinaire   ...she is the utter definition of woman and her place is with her perfect One ...she submits only to Him while the world submits to her.

If this means that only high end submissives are true submissives in My view then so be it , Never should any who are True in Ds be anything less than exceptional.

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ORIGINAL: SparklyAltoGirl

This sounds very much like a submissive who may be suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder.

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ORIGINAL: MyCaptainsPet

i don't want to thread jack here... but what other kinds of submissives are there?????

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ORIGINAL: SparklyAltoGirl

This sounds very much like a submissive who may be suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder.

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ORIGINAL: mysecret40

 ~~~nods head~~~agrees with Katy~! I have met many a Dom that fit this bill as well......their expectations high, but what they truly have to offer low.
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