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LadyCimarron -> RE: frustrated male subs (7/7/2010 6:17:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

If you don't offer the same level of standard as you expect out of men, you're a flaming hypocrite. No one deserves what they don't offer themselves. Simple really. Many women in here want all take and give little in return.


You are right, I offer the same level, not the same thing. The fact is men like that are not looking for their female twin they are looking for the yin to their yang . He doesn't want what he has he wants what I have. Which means he had better have what I want.

SNIPPED>>>>>>are intelligent/creative/interesting emails/profiles/conversations. There are men here who literally blow the women's mind away.<<<<<<<
 
And BTW- not to toot my own horn but HELL YES!!!! I HAVE ALL THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I REQUIRE IT. [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] In case you didn't know - I got it going on. [:D]
 




LadyPact -> RE: frustrated male subs (7/7/2010 6:20:47 PM)

You don't know Me very well, do you?

If you want to phrase it that way, I do prove it constantly.  I am always in the pursuit of being a better top, continuing My education about the lifestyle, and doing whatever it takes to achieve that.  I don't stop researching new techniques or improving My skills in the old ones.  If there is any possible way that I can improve Myself in regards to BDSM, I'm doing it.  I make sure that I make the right connections to the people who can teach Me what I need to know and I'm also going back to teaching classes Myself.  (Wax play in August, for those who are curious.) 

Of course, you don't see these things.  Only people in My life can verify them.




LadyCimarron -> RE: frustrated male subs (7/7/2010 6:23:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

LP

Because you don't prove it. Males are constantly expected to prove themselves while many women think that they just have to simply be a woman who owns a vagina. If a male demands a woman to prove her self at the same level that men are expected to, it would seem out of place.

That aside, many women seem to think that it's okay to tell a man that he is no one special, he is just average like most men. (which I have no problem with) BUT! if a man tells a woman that she is no one special and just average, it's deemed to be offensive. Many women live in this delusion of believing they are a special princess that should get put on a pedestal when really, they are just the average woman who blend in the crowd with the rest.


Then quit accepting that. Raise your own standards. Refuse to deal with women you see as just average. Make the woman rise to the occasion. In fact it never ceases to amaze me what women will do when they meet a man they REALLY want. And I don't think there is a woman alive who is the exception to that rule. When a woman truly wants a man she will do what it takes to get him. I think when a man really wants a woman he will do the same. Just raise your standards.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: frustrated male subs (7/7/2010 7:38:12 PM)

Oh, Nick, are there no women in the whole continent of Australia who meet your standard?

Okay, who wants IronBear to open a charm school for the TNG's in Aus?




OttersSwim -> RE: frustrated male subs (7/7/2010 9:05:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

Ladypact

Okay let me break this down. Take this site for example. A man is expected to make extra intelligent/creative/interesting emails/profiles/conversations. He is basically expected to blow someone's mind away while most of these women who expect this standard out of men to prove their worthiness have not got the capability and talent to be all of this themselves. 


Yea but Nick...it's a rigged game by design, you know?   Hundreds upon hundreds of males, very few Dommes - situation intentionally set up so that the women are in charge.  As a guy, damn right you better have the best and brightest plumage ("Lovely bird, beautiful plumage!") and be able to "show your quality" if you want to have any chance.  Many many years, if ever, before the numbers even out and it is pointless to cry about a situation which you cannot change.

But there is nothing in the rule book that says that we have to kneel to just any female.  Have all the standards you want dude.   I have to say that the Ladies who are regulars here show their quality on a consistent basis and so it is not hard to have a standard or benchmark to compare to.




Politesub53 -> RE: frustrated male subs (7/8/2010 2:32:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

Oh and not to mention, with many dommes, a male sub is not even allowed to express what he wants without being accussed of being an idiot.


How many women from here have said that to you right at the start of swapping Cmail ?  I have sent many messages over the years, asking a question or saying I liked a post. I have never had one reply that wasnt polite.

I am also wondering about your line "A male sub not being allowed to express what he wants" At want point in swapping Cmail do you do this ?  I ask this for a reason, when you chat to a woman in a vanilla setting, do you tell her straight away what you want, or do you try and get to know her first ?

Frankly I dont see why male subs have a problem communicating with these ladies. When all is said and done they are not all here just to fill our needs. They want to be courted just like any woman. The ones that will talk about your needs are pro Doms, nothing wrong with that either. At least each party knows where they stand from the start. You might also find someone who just wants a play partner, the clue is on her profile.

Dont just message someone, read her profile, then read it again. If she isnt offering what you want then just move on. As for me I will keep doing as I have always done, send a polite message and get a polite message in reply.




VaguelyCurious -> RE: frustrated male subs (7/8/2010 2:49:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

As for me I will keep doing as I have always done, send a polite message and get a polite message in reply.
Hah! I laugh in the face of all this politeness, Manners-we all know that away from the public forums you curse like a sailor and think all wimmins are worthless sluts!
[8D][8D][8D][8D][8D][8D]




Politesub53 -> RE: frustrated male subs (7/8/2010 12:38:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious


Hah! I laugh in the face of all this politeness, Manners-we all know that away from the public forums you curse like a sailor and think all wimmins are worthless sluts!
[8D][8D][8D][8D][8D][8D]



Hey I never said any of you are worthless, did I ? [8D]




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