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DesFIP -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/11/2010 6:34:13 PM)

You got together with a guy whose major turn on is anal and you don't want to do it. You don't see any incompatibility there? Like an iceberg looming in a shipping lane?

The major problem I see is that you have a very new relationship and he's bringing this up on a very frequent basis, and at the same time saying he isn't trying to push you. He is pushing you. If he wasn't interested in pushing this he wouldn't keep bringing it up. It is possible that in time you may come to be willing to let him try if he went about it the right way. But he can't be bothered waiting or doing it right. Or he's just clueless and can't be bothered to learn how to introduce you to it.

He should drop it for a minimum of six months. You should learn about it on your own during that time. He should learn about it on his own during that time. Should you have a specific fear - not the general grossness - he should be able to answer you or promise to find an answer.

You start by using lots of lube and just running a finger around outside. Then maybe inserting a finger or a very thin anal beads toy. And slowly working up to something bigger while all the time making it feel good for you. That means stroking you, playing with you, telling you how happy you're making him by trying this. You don't do it by pressuring someone over and over.

About the grossnesss, is it really any grosser than having a hard cock jammed down your throat so that you're gagging and retching and your nose is running nonstop? That's pretty gross too.

The grossness level is minimized if you don't do this when you're either constipated or have diarrhea. If you tend to be regular and go every morning, then you know you won't be full of it six hours later. 23 hours later is different. So you can time it. But first, hit him across the head with a clue by four, because he's taking someone who is nervous already and doing his best to make you hard limit this. And that's stupid.




Mariasgoneagain -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/11/2010 6:34:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: porcelaine

Mariasgoneagain,

I've never engaged in anal sex and it isn't due to the reasons you've mentioned. I simply wasn't going to become backdoor fodder for the average Joe. I figure if I'm going to endure some pain and suffering it will be at the hands of the person I want to receive that from in the long term. That's a really neat way of saying that oftentimes it has more to do with your inability to wrap your mind around something or the individual you're engaging with. I'm well aware that the right someone would have me eagerly doing such. But that isn't something he gets to determine. I know it early on.

For me it's an issue of compatibility and pairing with someone that compels me to move beyond my comfort zone. Getting all the niceties lined up is neat and pretty. But if he can't inspire some mountain moving by his presence I need to rethink this. There's also the assessment the individual makes in deeming something a limit that is really an area of discomfort. I'll candidly admit it is not. I just might limit the man standing next to me but wouldn't extend the same to one I've chosen for ownership.

Your situation is a bit different. You're already involved. So my response is simple. Either your ambivalence to the act or your desire to yield to him is stronger. Figure out the one that rings loudest and hold firm. If it's the latter you simply have to tell yourself that this thing isn't bigger than he and I and go forward. Best of luck.

~porcelaine



Porcelaine,

I agree with your reasoning as well. I also feel like anal is something incredibly intimate and i would have to really trust the person i allow to do this to me. I have grown so much trust in my boyfriend and that is the only reason i am even considering this. I've never met anyone who has shown as much patience and caring for me as he does. He is always so careful of my feelings and eager to make me happy. I just want to be able to do the same for him. I just wish the thing he wanted didnt sound so unappealing to me! But i guess i will have to find a way to get over it b/c i do feel that my desire to yeild to him is stronger than any repulsion i have for this particular act. I'm not sure why i have this fear that allowing him to have me this way will change how he sees me.. i guess thats something i need to explain to him and let him convince me wont happen..




Aileen1968 -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/11/2010 6:39:47 PM)

When did anal become such a big deal???? It's just another hole.
Have a glass of wine, relax and then give it a shot.
It ain't gonna kill you.
What's the worst that happens? You get a little poo on his dick and and don't enjoy yourself.

As for pain....the more relaxed you are, the more enjoyable it is. Trust me...it can be extremely enjoyable.
But...If you clench, you can almost rip that little fucker right off.




AQuietSimpleMan -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/11/2010 6:50:02 PM)

quote:

Thanks so much for your response. I will have to share some of these ideas with him and maybe he can get me used to it.. i think i have freaked out so much when he's tried in the past that he's dropped the idea b/c hes scared of me spazzing again lol. You said your partner did not want it doggy or on her side so you had to do it missionary.. what were her reasons for not wanting it doggy? Also, does your partner use an enema beforehand every time you have anal? Thanks alot for sharing!


She didn't want to do Doggy cause she wanted to look me in the face.

And no No Enema has ever been needed... some toys have come out with some residue but never full on poop.

I think you are more afraid of things that you THINK are going to happen then what really happens.

QSM




Mariasgoneagain -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/11/2010 7:34:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

You got together with a guy whose major turn on is anal and you don't want to do it. You don't see any incompatibility there? Like an iceberg looming in a shipping lane?

The major problem I see is that you have a very new relationship and he's bringing this up on a very frequent basis, and at the same time saying he isn't trying to push you. He is pushing you. If he wasn't interested in pushing this he wouldn't keep bringing it up. It is possible that in time you may come to be willing to let him try if he went about it the right way. But he can't be bothered waiting or doing it right. Or he's just clueless and can't be bothered to learn how to introduce you to it.

He should drop it for a minimum of six months. You should learn about it on your own during that time. He should learn about it on his own during that time. Should you have a specific fear - not the general grossness - he should be able to answer you or promise to find an answer.

You start by using lots of lube and just running a finger around outside. Then maybe inserting a finger or a very thin anal beads toy. And slowly working up to something bigger while all the time making it feel good for you. That means stroking you, playing with you, telling you how happy you're making him by trying this. You don't do it by pressuring someone over and over.

About the grossnesss, is it really any grosser than having a hard cock jammed down your throat so that you're gagging and retching and your nose is running nonstop? That's pretty gross too.

The grossness level is minimized if you don't do this when you're either constipated or have diarrhea. If you tend to be regular and go every morning, then you know you won't be full of it six hours later. 23 hours later is different. So you can time it. But first, hit him across the head with a clue by four, because he's taking someone who is nervous already and doing his best to make you hard limit this. And that's stupid.



Well when we first started dating he understood that i had never done anal and was not interested in it and he still wanted to date me so i figured it wasnt that big of a deal for him. and he still insists that it isnt and that he can live without it if i really dont like it. I cant help but feel that he is just saying this bc he doesnt want to upset me. he hasnt tried to pressure or guilt me into it, but he did continually try to incorporate it. What has happened in the past is if he tries to put a finger in or tease my asshole with his cock i freak out bc i think its leading to anal and he gets all excited and starts saying really aggressive things (which usually i like but not with his cock up against my asshole!) and then i just shut down, i either freeze or cry . it sounds silly to me now but in the moment it really freaks me out. i know now he wasnt going to full on fuck me right then, i know he was just trying to get me used to the idea of it but he didnt tell me right then "hey im just playing with u to feel you out on this, im not actually going to do it" and so i just spazzed. In the moment feeling him there.. i think hes really going to shove it in.. even though logically when im not in the moment i know he wouldnt do that.. Its been about a month or so since the last time he tried to play with me like that and i started crying and since then he has completely dropped it. Lately i do wonder how big of a sacrifice it is to him to not have it though.. and i feel bad that i cant give him what makes him happy. So i want to get ideas of little things i could tell him i am okay with him doing right now that wont send me into a panic lol. I think you made a good point with the "stroking me, making me feel good about it, telling me how happy it makes him that im trying it" thing. He hasnt really taken the time to calmly and gently play with me here. He is more threatening and aggressive about it while he teases me there and i think this is b/c in all other aspects of play, i love aggressive and threatening, i respond best to it. so it might just be confusing for him why threatening and agressive usually turns me on but in this case, freaks me out. I will have to explain this to him. I think your ideas will really help along with the others i have gotten so far and hopefully i can tell him i am ready to try again soon.




sexyred1 -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/11/2010 8:31:26 PM)

Not sure what else to advise you since you have gotten great tips so far. I always liked anal but I did not completely adore it until I met someone who knew exactly what he was doing, I was madly in love with him, we had earth shattering chemistry and similar fantasies.

With him I went farther in that area than I ever dreamed of. However, I have always fantasized about it even before I did it and you do not.

I never had a moment's worry about cleanliness; women know how to take care of these things. Also, your guy loves it and cares for you. So there is virtually no chance of him finding you less attractive after; if anything, he will crave you more.

I think the biggest issue here is you don't seem the SLIGHTEST bit intrigued or interested in this as a sexual turn on. Doing something only for someone else is nice, but when it comes to this, you really need to think about it for the pleasure it could potentially give YOU.

You have not lived till someone goes down on you and uses a vibrating butt plug. You might have to be pulled off the ceiling. Which is a good thing.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/11/2010 8:34:51 PM)

Holy shit, any one who did that to me, would be kicking his ass kicked, and wouldn't be allowed near my ass* literally* ever again!

That's not cool. You don't broach no no area's with force and idiotry. and agressive behaviors that scare your partner.






quote:

ORIGINAL: Mariasgoneagain

. What has happened in the past is if he tries to put a finger in or tease my asshole with his cock i freak out bc i think its leading to anal and he gets all excited and starts saying really aggressive things (which usually i like but not with his cock up against my asshole!) and then i just shut down, i either freeze or cry . it sounds silly to me now but in the moment it really freaks me out. i know now he wasnt going to full on fuck me right then, i know he was just trying to get me used to the idea of it but he didnt tell me right then "hey im just playing with u to feel you out on this, im not actually going to do it" and so i just spazzed. In the moment feeling him there.. i think hes really going to shove it in.. even though logically when im not in the moment i know he wouldnt do that.. Its been about a month or so since the last time he tried to play with me like that and i started crying

. He hasnt really taken the time to calmly and gently play with me here. He is more threatening and aggressive about it while he teases me there and i think this is b/c in all other aspects of play, i love aggressive and threatening, i respond best to it. so it might just be confusing for him why threatening and agressive usually turns me on but in this case, freaks me out. I will have to explain this to him. I think your ideas will really help along with the others i have gotten so far and hopefully i can tell him i am ready to try again soon.




Aynne88 -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/11/2010 8:37:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

When did anal become such a big deal???? It's just another hole.
Have a glass of wine, relax and then give it a shot.
It ain't gonna kill you.
What's the worst that happens? You get a little poo on his dick and and don't enjoy yourself.

As for pain....the more relaxed you are, the more enjoyable it is. Trust me...it can be extremely enjoyable.
But...If you clench, you can almost rip that little fucker right off.


Aileen I dig you more every post.[;)]. Seriously, the things some people do here, and anal is the oh mighty christ freak out thing?

Chill out chickies, no enemas needed, it feels awesome, stop overthinking it, and analyzing it to death, you are only freaking yourselves out.




kitastrophe33 -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/11/2010 8:44:31 PM)

We went to a "class" about anal at the local adult shop a couple weeks ago. I've always been sorta ambivalent about anal. On the one hand, it can feel really amazing. Whoever posted about the orgasms you have during anal wasn't kidding. On the other hand, sometimes I have a hard time relaxing, making anal a no go. Plus, my stomach isn't that great, and it only feels good if my GI is in a happy state.

BUT (pun totally intended)...a couple things for you (and your partner) to know...Anything inserted in your rear feels way bigger than it really is. So, he CAN NOT start with his dick. Really, start with your own self. In private, so you can relax, experiment with touching your ass while you masturbate. After awhile use some lube and just dip the tip of your pinky finger in. Involve him later, after you're a little more comfortable. I hear that wearing gloves can be helpful, especially if you or he have sorta rough skin on your fingers.

Also, about the poop thing. There will be way less poop than you think. That first part of the rectum where he'd be putting his dick into usually doesn't have too much poop there. It's stored up a little higher and sort of around a corner. It doesn't move down until it's time for you to use the bathroom. I guess if you're really constipated or something it might be in that part too, but really there shouldn't be too much. If you're still worried, you can always do an anal douche. An enema implies a larger amount of fluid and really isn't necessary. You can buy an anal douche thing at porn stores, but I just use a fleet's enema bottle that I've dumped out and filled with warm tap water. It's a pretty small amount...just to sort of rinse out.

Don't rule anal out, but definitely don't put so much pressure on yourself. Your ass isn't going anywhere, so take your time!




ForgetMeKnots -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/11/2010 9:12:29 PM)

Ok...

I am by no means an anal expert, but I just had a conversation with someone this weekend about this... and I thought it may be helpful.

OP--

If you decide to do anal, you can use a product called Anal Ease (Anal Eze?).

Anal Ease  is NOT lube (according to my source).

Don't get it confused, because it is not the same thing. 

(The directions she gave me were to put a thumbsize amount around and just inside.  Wait 3 minutes.  Lube him up and lube yourself up inside and out. Go slowly at first, and have some freaky fun!)

I think you should try small toys first, and do it alone.  That way you're in complete control and you have no one to please but yourself.

Good luck!   




Firebirdseeking -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/11/2010 10:52:52 PM)

"About the grossnesss, is it really any grosser than having a hard cock jammed down your throat so that you're gagging and retching and your nose is running nonstop? That's pretty gross too. "

"When did anal become such a big deal???? It's just another hole.
Have a glass of wine, relax and then give it a shot.
It ain't gonna kill you.
What's the worst that happens? You get a little poo on his dick and and don't enjoy yourself."

I find these comments offensive. They lack respect for the OP, and, sorry, it may be YOUR kink, but a hard cock jammed down one's throat resulting in gagging and retching hardly sounds respectful, but maybe you don't give a rip about respect. If that is the kind of relationship you have or want, knock yourself out. The second comment tells her, "Oh no big deal that anal terrifies you to the point of trauma, just relax and enjoy it, baby." You know what? that sounds like a man who is about to rape a woman, and he says, relax and enjoy it, you're just another hole". Hole? when did a body part become a hole?

I agree with ToppingfrmBottom, at least she has empathy for the OP.




porcelaine -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/11/2010 11:52:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mariasgoneagain

Porcelaine,

I agree with your reasoning as well. I also feel like anal is something incredibly intimate and i would have to really trust the person i allow to do this to me. I have grown so much trust in my boyfriend and that is the only reason i am even considering this. I've never met anyone who has shown as much patience and caring for me as he does. He is always so careful of my feelings and eager to make me happy. I just want to be able to do the same for him. I just wish the thing he wanted didnt sound so unappealing to me! But i guess i will have to find a way to get over it b/c i do feel that my desire to yeild to him is stronger than any repulsion i have for this particular act. I'm not sure why i have this fear that allowing him to have me this way will change how he sees me.. i guess thats something i need to explain to him and let him convince me wont happen.


Mariasgoneagain,

I've elected to highlight a portion of your post intentionally to make an important reference. Asking you to do things you like to do or want to do isn't very challenging. It's easy to comply because you're working in a area where little to no resistance exists. If that was the crux of submission we'd all be golden. Enter the hard stuff. Places where fears, insecurities, bad experiences, and mental strongholds exist. Requests from this space are much harder. The internal wrestling and anguish that occur can be unpleasant. But it can be surmounted.

The desire to yield to a will far stronger than yours is what you hold on to. That's your anchor and little tugboat when you're lost at sea. And it doesn't matter how many times those fears rage you speak up and tell the other person. Your job is to be honest and transparent. His is to figure out how you'll get from point 'a' to the next. While I believe sufferance is growth inspiring, it is never done without disclosure on my end. Admit it's hard, frightening, and whatever emotions and ideas come to mind. Then remind yourself of everything you've echoed earlier.

I don't believe in the impossible. I believe people are too afraid to scale the mountains that they're facing. Or don't have a compelling reason to do so. If you do you'll make it happen because your commitment to furtherance and being surrendered far exceeds the fear and ambivalence you carry. The benefit is what you gain by overcoming and perseverance. You have something to draw from next time and there will be plenty more. But that's okay.

Your choice is simple. Play it safe or have an amazing experience that moves you beyond the parameters you've become accustomed to.

"And then the day came, when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." -Anais Nin

Clinging hurts far more than flying ever did. Spread your wings.

~porcelaine




Aileen1968 -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/12/2010 12:29:46 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking

"About the grossnesss, is it really any grosser than having a hard cock jammed down your throat so that you're gagging and retching and your nose is running nonstop? That's pretty gross too. "

"When did anal become such a big deal???? It's just another hole.
Have a glass of wine, relax and then give it a shot.
It ain't gonna kill you.
What's the worst that happens? You get a little poo on his dick and and don't enjoy yourself."

I find these comments offensive. They lack respect for the OP, and, sorry, it may be YOUR kink, but a hard cock jammed down one's throat resulting in gagging and retching hardly sounds respectful, but maybe you don't give a rip about respect. If that is the kind of relationship you have or want, knock yourself out. The second comment tells her, "Oh no big deal that anal terrifies you to the point of trauma, just relax and enjoy it, baby." You know what? that sounds like a man who is about to rape a woman, and he says, relax and enjoy it, you're just another hole". Hole? when did a body part become a hole?

I agree with ToppingfrmBottom, at least she has empathy for the OP.



Oh please....give me a fucking break. Aren't you being just a little too sensitive and overly dramatic because of some words of an anonymous person on the internet? Have a glass of wine and relax. [:)]




ElanSubdued -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/12/2010 1:14:20 AM)

Mariasgoneagain,

I've read the OP, your replies, and the responses people have given thus far.  The sense I get is you can't understand why someone would want to do this to you, why it would be pleasurable when it seems like it would be painful, and why someone might risk an "accident" (i.e. shit on his dick, this sort of thing).

First, lets talk about what is in this for you.  Anal sex, when done properly, feels really good and there is no pain at all.  It is a mega orgasm intensifier because it gives your muscles "down there" something to grab onto.  Your anal opening has all kinds of nerve endings that give lots of pleasure when caressed, licked, stretched, and penetrated.  As a trigger for feelings of submission, being taken anally feels like your partner is filling you and encompassing your entire body.  The feeling as your partner grabs your hips, pulling your cheeks in to cup his groin and cock is quite lovely indeed.  You can be penetrated from the front, in the missionary position, which can be very pleasurable.  However, there is an entirely different set of sensations and emotions that occur when being penetrated from behind.  Both are well worth trying.

Anal sex (I prefer the term "anal play") does not need to be relegated to "cock in ass" style penetration and, in fact, I don't recommend this as a starting place.  When you're first experiencing the feeling of being opened and penetrated, your muscles won't be used to the sensations and may tighten up.  Thus, slow, careful control is required and organic cocks (i.e. the au naturel variety attached to men) are not great in this department.  The angle of a natural cock and the positions you need to be in to accept it aren't the easiest starting place because things don't line up quite properly.  Also, natural cocks (and their owners) have a tendency to get excited and this can lead to too much penetration, too soon.

I recommend that you and your partner purchase a set of butt plugs that start with a small plug and gradually increase in size.  Don't go for soft style plugs.  What you want is something reasonably firm, with a gradual, increasing slope, an inward taper toward the end, and a base to prevent the plug from disappearing/slipping inside you.  Something like the following are what I'm thinking of:

Black Anal Plugs
http://www.stockroom.com/Black-Anal-Plug-P133.aspx

or

Red Anal Plugs
http://www.stockroom.com/Red-Anal-Plug-P2088.aspx

Also, make sure you've got lots of high quality lube on hand (such as Astroglide or Liquid Silk).  You may have heard people extolling the virtues of dry, no-lube anal sex.  Ignore these people.  Not using lube is a great way to damage your body and to turn you off anal play for life.  The golden rule for enjoyable, anal play is no amount of lube is too much.  I'll repeat that:  no amount of lube is too much.  Apply lube to yourself (to your opening and inside your opening) and to whatever tools/toys you're going to be penetrated with.  In the case of a butt plug, coat the tip and the entire length of the plug with lube.

You can use butt plugs yourself or with your partner.  The idea is to start with the small plug and train yourself over a number of weeks, working progressively to the larger plugs.  At first, you'll insert the smallest plug and try to retain it for a few minutes.  As you get used to the sensations, keep the plug in for longer periods of time (say... ten minutes to half an hour).  Do this every day.

Important note 1:  before inserting the plug, make sure you've not eaten for a few hours and have a complete bowel movement.  This will avoid messy situations.

Once you're comfortable with the small plug after having trained with it for a week or two, move on to the medium sized plug.  Repeat the same process as you did above.  When you're moving up in size, the plug may get to a point where you feel pain or you feel you can't take any more.  If this is the case, back the plug off or remove it entirely from your body.  Then, slowly work the plug back inside you.  Remember what I said about lube?  After a few attempts with the plug, you may need to add more lubrication to yourself and to the plug.

Each time you work the plug back in, try to go a little further than you did before.  At a certain point, it is better not to remove the plug and to instead just back off a little while still keeping yourself stretched open.  Squeeze down on your muscles while keeping the plug stationary.  Stop squeezing, relax, and ease the plug forward a bit.  Stop.  Back off.  Ease forward a bit, this time going a little further than you did before.  Stop.  And so on.  Squeezing can help open you up, but you may also find it better just to relax as much as you can and not squeeze at all.  Do whatever feels best and most natural for you.

Eventually, the entire plug will be inside you.  So now what do you do?  Reward yourself with an orgasm!  Masturbate with the plug inside you.  As you get closer to orgasm and finally go over the edge, you'll feel yourself clench down on the anal invader.  This is an intense feeling and it is also the thing that makes your orgasm equally intense.  The feelings may be strange and even uncomfortable the first time you experience them, but the partners I trained this way all grew to crave and adore these kinds of orgasms.

Important note 2:  there are lots of micro-organisms living in the anus that will cause infection if transferred to your vagina.  Thus, when you masturbate, use a hand that was not touching your bum and the butt plug.  If both of your hands came into anal contact, wash your hands with hot water and soap before masturbating.  Also, never transfer a tool/toy (cock, butt plug, dildo, etc.) directly from your anus to your vagina.  All tools/toys must be properly washed/sterilized before being introduced into the vagina.  Ideally, keep vaginal toys separate from anal toys.

I mentioned your partner can be involved in all of this and, in fact, he may wish to direct you.  Whatever the two of you negotiate, remember that you're trying something new.  You may not succeed the first few tries and this is perfectly normal.  Ask your partner for his love and support, and tell him you want to train your ass to be open for him.  Your partner, based on what you've said, is unequivocally an "ass man".  Anything you do by way of training your ass is going to be incredibly sexy to him.  Truly.  You can do no wrong.  You've found one of your partner's turn-on buttons so use it and use his appreciation to motivate you.  Don't worry that you may look funny or dirty.  I can almost guarantee you that whatever you do by way of preparing your ass, even if an accident happens (and they do sometimes), is still going to be uber sexy to your partner.

I don't want to write a script for you, but it's a good idea to communicate what you need by way of encouragement.  When you get the first plug inside you, if you'd like your partner to kiss you and tell you what an adorable slut you are, communicate this in a respectful, appropriate way.  Eventually, the two of you will get into the groove of training your ass and I'd be surprised if your partner isn't regularly pampering you.

Once you're comfortable with the medium plug, you can move up to the largest plug, but this is likely unnecessary for comfortably accepting your partner's cock.  On the day you're to take his cock, make this a special day.  Whatever turns you on... candles, a rose petal bath, being kissed all over by your partner... plan this together and make it something special for both of you.  Despite the fact you'll be well prepared by this point, a live cock feels different than a plug.  Thus, as before, go slowly and carefully.  In the beginning and possibly several times thereafter, you'll need to control the speed and depth of penetration.  This isn't the time for your partner to lead.  Only you know how your body feels and thus, while you're learning to accept his cock, the two of you should agree that you're in control.  Once you've gained some experience, your partner can be more aggressive in assuming control and penetrating you as is mutually enjoyable.

Okay.  I've discussed some ideas as to how to train yourself for enjoyable, anal sex.  Let's talk about the pain and "accident" aspects of anal play.

Pain isn't a normal part of anal play.  If you experience pain, you should slow down or stop altogether and try again later.  The biggest accident that can turn someone off anal play for good isn't the poopy kind.  Your ass doesn't stretch as quickly or as easily as your pussy.  Thus, proper stretching and warm up are essential before engaging.  I almost always use a small to medium sized plug to warm up my partner or myself.  Even after you've trained yourself to accept your partner's cock or medium to large plugs, this does not mean you can just ram things inside you with no warm up.  Doing so will bruise and/or tear your muscles and the result is instant, excruciatingly sharp pain.  You'll know if you've done something like this because there is no doubt about the pain.  If this happens, your anal play will be over for a few days.

You and your partner can prevent accidental pain by making sure you warm up properly.  Your partner can play with you, kissing you, caressing your breasts, teasing your pussy, and doing other things that turn you on.  Then, as part of the foreplay, he can  lubricate your ass and the small plug, and use the small plug to tease you, penetrate you, and warm you up.  When first entering you, slow and controlled is always the name of the game and it's still a good idea for you to give feedback regarding the speed and depth of penetration.  After the small plug, your partner can switch to the medium plug and open you some more.  Fingers also work well, provided fingernails are well clipped and the hands are clean.  Your partner can simulate the small to medium stretching by using one or two fingers, and following this with three fingers.  You'll know when your body feels okay to accept your partner's cock and/or bigger toys and I'm sure you can determine a way to communicate this.

Once you've practiced enough that you're confident pain isn't an issue, while you may not believe this is possible right now, don't underestimate the appeal of your ass.  You'll grow to love your ass, to love the things your partner does to your ass, and to crave bigger objects inside you which lead to stronger and stronger orgasms.  The large plug in the three plug set I suggested may seem impossible now, but once you're a full-fledged ass whore you'll have no trouble with this and you'll want it.

Accidents.  Yes, no matter how well you prepare (bowel movement before hand, enema, etc.) accidents sometimes happen.  This is the price of admission to anal play and you just have to accept it.  My suggestion is that you have wet cloths, tissues, and towels on hand so that if an accident happens, this can be dealt with quickly and with little fuss.  Instead of playing on the sheets you're going to sleep on, place another couple of sheets over the bed.  A little bit of forethought and preparedness can make accidents an almost non-issue.

Whenever you try something new (and especially something you feel trepidation about), the first few times may feel very awkward if not totally uncomfortable.  Consider the first time you kissed a man and compare this to what it feels like now.  Try not to pass judgment on anal play until you've tried it a number of times.  Having said this, if you've really tried and still find no pleasure in anal play, that's what you have to go with and your partner must accept this.  Just as there are people who adore anal play, there are others for who it simply isn't their thing.  If you're worried that you'll look funny or that accidents (the infamous "shit on his dick") will be a turn-off for your partner, really and truly... put this completely out of your mind.  Like I said above, it's highly likely your partner is an "ass man" and you can confirm this by simply asking him.  For those who adore asses and anal play, everything about this kind of play is an utter turn-on so you have nothing to worry about.

I truly hope this works out for you and that you can find mid-ground or enjoyment in this kind of play.  A final approach is that even though this may not be your thing, the "finding something hot because of your partner's reactions" methodology can work very well.  Quite a few of the kinks I have now are things that had no appeal for me, but I adored my partner's reactions and this caused me to enjoy and seek out the play.  I'll underline once more though that there is no rule saying you must like anal play.  If you find you don't like it and can't find pleasure in your partner's reactions, then you must be honest with your partner.  You may still decide to acquiesce simply for the enjoyment of your partner, but I encourage you not to do this if it's going to create resentment in you.

Good luck Mariasgoneagain and I hope something I've written is helpful.

Elan.




ranja -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/12/2010 2:01:45 AM)

you want to know how to change things from a turn off to a turn on and you think anal sex is dirty... well i think you are halfway there...

anal sex IS dirty... i mean how perverted do you have to be to actually take a dick up your poopshoot?
Imagine playing with your asshole and actually getting turned on by it... how ridiculously gross and humiliating and slutty is that???

there is ofcourse a number of things you can do (as advised by many posters) to ease you into ass play... but the most important thing is to appreciate the dirtiness of it, it is totally filthy, perverted and kinky... aren't you? don't you want to be? why?




WyldHrt -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/12/2010 2:14:28 AM)

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Oh please....give me a fucking break. Aren't you being just a little too sensitive and overly dramatic because of some words of an anonymous person on the internet? Have a glass of wine and relax. [:)]

I really don't think so. Like any other activity, it may be 'no big deal' for some, but one hell of a big deal for others. Firebirdseeking is right; saying 'get over it' or 'just relax and do it' isn't all that helpful to someone who admits that the activity squicks her out, and those posts probably just made the OP feel worse that she can't.

Really, should we tell subs that aren't into full toilet service that they should just get over it and open wide? For someone squicked by anal, it probably doesn't seem that much different.

Oh, and wine makes me sick. I'll have a beer instead. [:D]






Firebirdseeking -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/12/2010 4:12:27 AM)

No, actually I dont think I am being "too sensitive". The OP asked for help with something she find very scary and repulsive, traumatic,and you are telling her to lay back and enjoy it. I dont care if this is the internet or not. Your kink doesn't have to be her kink.

You sound like you could use a dose of empathy, you certainly are not being helpful to her.

And for that matter, Ranja, YOU may think of yourself as slutty, perverted, filthy, but I sure dont, and it doesnt sound like the OP does either. Not everyone is here for the "filthy, perverted and kinky".

And thank you, WyldHrt.




porcelaine -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/12/2010 7:58:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking

No, actually I dont think I am being "too sensitive". The OP asked for help with something she find very scary and repulsive, traumatic,and you are telling her to lay back and enjoy it. I dont care if this is the internet or not. Your kink doesn't have to be her kink.

You sound like you could use a dose of empathy, you certainly are not being helpful to her.

And for that matter, Ranja, YOU may think of yourself as slutty, perverted, filthy, but I sure dont, and it doesnt sound like the OP does either. Not everyone is here for the "filthy, perverted and kinky".


Firebirdseeking,

There's an interesting discussion going on elsewhere about this very subject. All the supposed things people are or aren't doing. Uber slavery, dominance, and whatever else the mind can fathom. The end result being much of it is hype and how people have bought into the ideas they're promoting. When confronted it was interesting how those situations began to look less out there and much more normal. Whatever that means. All the tough talk baffles my brain in all truth. And I definitely didn't have time or the gumption to sit around typing that stuff. I was too busy living it to care.

~porcelaine




laurell3 -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/12/2010 8:12:06 AM)

Mariasgoneagain,

I'm not going to engage in a debate about who is right/wrong/better/worse etc. You are the one that knows if you can really do something comfortably or not and no one else. If you can't, you can't.

I sense that you want to figure out a way to try this. I'm not sure I would really worry about the pain thing that much unless you have health reasons that make anal sex painful. It doesn't have to be painful and shouldn't be (unless you want it to be) if the person you are with knows what they are doing and is patient. As to how you view it as "grossing you out", like many things, I think you should really talk to him about why it is such a huge turn on for him. If you can try to see it through his eyes and realize that in his perspective the things that gross you out are really not that important to him, you might find that some of that potentially embarassing type reaction may be alleviated.





Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Anal: How do i change a turn-off to a turn-on?? (7/12/2010 8:43:30 AM)

Analeze is a very bad idea. It numbs things up, and keeps you from feeling what's going on back there.

You want to be able to feel what's going on back there, how else are you going to tell if something aint right if you can't feel back there.
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ORIGINAL: ForgetMeKnots

Ok...

I am by no means an anal expert, but I just had a conversation with someone this weekend about this... and I thought it may be helpful.

OP--

If you decide to do anal, you can use a product called Anal Ease (Anal Eze?).

Anal Ease  is NOT lube (according to my source).

Don't get it confused, because it is not the same thing. 

(The directions she gave me were to put a thumbsize amount around and just inside.  Wait 3 minutes.  Lube him up and lube yourself up inside and out. Go slowly at first, and have some freaky fun!)

I think you should try small toys first, and do it alone.  That way you're in complete control and you have no one to please but yourself.

Good luck!   





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