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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania


He had sex with a teenager, not a child....he is not a pedophile the way that term is defined by the DSM-IV....

You and I will disagree on this I am sure to the death.

13 is pedophiliac.

I don't care what you say, you may want to look at pictures of what she looked like at 13 and what he looked like at 13 and then tell me you honestly still think what he did isn't pedophiliac.

Age is subjective when it comes to development.... and in 1970 the Hoochie Mamma of the year 2010 is a far cry different from one another.

The DSM-IV is good for so many things... I really think it gets some very wrong, or at least only half right.

QSM

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but there are also plenty of 13 year olds who could pass for 18.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

His victim does not want him prosecuted further

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He had sex with a teenager, not a child....he is not a pedophile the way that term is defined by the DSM-IV....

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Now I am for the current age of consent, and I am for prosecuting people who have sex with teenagers, but by the same token, when I hear people call a sex crime against a teen "child sex crime", well it isn't... I think it muddies the water when we look at sex crimes committed against the prepubescent.

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ORIGINAL: DCWoody

And, according to all my friends at the time, average 13 year old male has a foot long cock and fucks every weekend.

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dont believe any waters have been muddled.

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Pedophilia: People with pedophilia have fantasies, urges or behaviors that involve illegal sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger)

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Terminology
Pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder characterized by sexual interest in pre-pubescent children by an adult or older adolescent. [1][2][3] According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), pedophilia is a paraphilia in which a person has intense and recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about children they have either acted on or cause distress or interpersonal difficulty.[4]
According to Frederick S. Berlin, M.D., Ph.D., Director of the National Institute for the Study, Prevention and Treatment of Sexual Trauma, the words "pedophile" and "pedophilia" are sometimes used informally to describe an adult's sexual interest or attraction to teenagers and other situations that do not fit within the clinical definitions. Dr. Berlin indicates that the terms "hebephilia" or "ephebophilia" may be more technically accurate in these cases. [69] Another erroneous but unfortunately common usage of "pedophilia" is to refer to the actus reus itself, (that is, interchangeably with "sexual abuse")[70][71][72][73] rather than the correct meaning, which is a preference for that age group on the part of the older individual.[74][9] Even more problematic are situations where the terms are misused to refer to relationships where the younger person is an adult of legal age, but is either perceived socially as being too young in comparison to their older partner, or the older partner occupies a position of authority over them.[75][76] Researchers recommend that this incorrect use be avoided.[74][69]

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Diagnosis
DSM-IV and DSM-IV-TR define pedophilia as “recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally 13 years or younger).” These feelings, urges, or behaviors must persist for at least 6 months. The DSM-IV criterion that such urges must cause clinically significant distress or functional impairment was amended in DSM-IV-TR, such that recurrent pedophilic fantasies or arousal need not be experienced as distressing. This correction reflects the ego-syntonic nature of many pedophiles’ sexual desires and/or behavior.3,4

According to DSM-IV, pedophilia can be diagnosed in the absence of any pedophilic behavior. Nonetheless, because of the potential legal risks of self-reporting pedophilic inclinations, the majority of pedophile research is conducted with participants who are identified by their behavior, most often via their contact with the criminal justice system.

There are 2 problems inherent with this research pool. For one, convicted or arrested sex offenders might differ considerably from pedophilic individuals who have not acted on their urges or who have acted on them but have not been caught. Second, not everyone who sexually molests a child is actually a pedophile; that is, such a person may not have a persistent sexual attraction to prepubescent children.5 Despite these difficulties, current research does reveal sufficiently consistent patterns to provide a basic overview of common psychological features associated with pedophilia.

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According to DSM-IV, pedophilia can be diagnosed in the absence of any pedophilic behavior. Nonetheless, because of the potential legal risks of self-reporting pedophilic inclinations, the majority of pedophile research is conducted with participants who are identified by their behavior, most often via their contact with the criminal justice system.

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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

I don't care how you write it this goy deserved a LOT more than he got, and he never fully did what he was supposed to have done.

My Point is Justice is so rarely served in so many cases why is this guy so special?

QSM

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

I don't care how you write it this goy deserved a LOT more than he got, and he never fully did what he was supposed to have done.

My Point is Justice is so rarely served in so many cases why is this guy so special?

QSM

That works both ways, if he was anyone else, would they still be looking to extradite him after three decades?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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According to DSM-IV, pedophilia can be diagnosed in the absence of any pedophilic behavior. Nonetheless, because of the potential legal risks of self-reporting pedophilic inclinations, the majority of pedophile research is conducted with participants who are identified by their behavior, most often via their contact with the criminal justice system.

You missed this part, julia.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Sure, julia, lets allow him to walk away. It was just a little girl... barely a teen if you will. The next one that this happens too, we can let him walk away too.

How many daughters do you have?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Sure, julia, lets allow him to walk away. It was just a little girl... barely a teen if you will. The next one that this happens too, we can let him walk away too.

How many daughters do you have?

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ORIGINAL: DCWoody

I really think you're barking up the wrong tree here Tazzy, the issue is him skipping out on a possible month in prison...not paedophilia...he had sex with an, apparently quite mature, 13 year old once....spent 50 days being examined by a psycologist who releasd him early saying he was no risk to anybody. That mention of 13 years old is 'at most 13'...as in that's as late as anyone usually remains undeveloped and potentially paedobait.....most 13 year olds wouldn't be interesting to a paedophile....ya don't suddenly switch from kid to adult on your 14th birthday.

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I have no clue what his 'victim' looks like now or then, but going by his extremely lenient sentence, and the psycologist releasing him early saying 'he's not a paedo, not a threat to anyone'....I seriously doubt he's a child molester of any kind.