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On November 20, al-Husayni met the German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop[117] and was officially received by Adolf Hitler on November 28.[118] He asked Hitler for a public declaration that "recognized and sympathized with the Arab struggles for independence and liberation, and that would support the elimination of a national Jewish homeland".[115] Hitler refused to make such a public announcement, saying that it would strengthen the Gaullists against the Vichy France,[118] but asked al-Husayni to 'to lock ...deep in his heart' the following points, which Browning summarizes as follows, that
‘Germany has resolved, step by step, to ask one European nation after the other to solve its Jewish problem, and at the proper time, direct a similar appeal to non-European nations as well'. When Germany had defeated Russia and broken through the Caucasus into the Middle East, it would have no further imperial goals of its own and would support Arab liberation... But Hitler did have one goal. "Germany’s objective would then be solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere under the protection of British power". (Das deutsche Ziel würde dann lediglich die Vernichtung des im arabischen Raum unter der Protektion der britischen Macht lebenden Judentums sein). In short, Jews were not simply to be driven out of the German sphere but would be hunted down and destroyed even beyond it.’[119]
Of course the timing of less than one month from meeting with al-Huysani and implementation of the Final Solution he requested is just conicidence.
Well, it may be, Willbeur, but two things come to mind. Hitler was interested in getting OIL. Additionally, did he not raise the issue years earlier in Mein Kampf??
Furthermore, nothing in your quote suggests the Arab had any causative influence. Yeh, he was there. So what?
The following quote from an Amazon review of the book:
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I will make no attempt to summarize this detailed, complex history. I will, however, paraphrase what I learned. The Nazis entering the halls of power in 1933 were antisemitic but, despite Hitler's barely-veiled threats in "Mein Kampf", there was no plan for genocide. Also, Nazi anti-semitism stemmed from multiple roots one of which was an ingrained pattern of belief going back centuries. Another root was no-doubt the Nazi struggle with Communists in Bavaria in the 1920's and early '30's. Many/most of these Communists were Jews. Somehow--gradually probably--the belief arose that the Jews were inveterate Communists and the Communist leadership was essentially Jewsih. Here, I think, we can smell a whiff of "Protocols of the Elders of Zion."
I skimmed through the eleven reviews of the book and found nothing that gives any credit to the Arab's involvement. So, at this point, perhaps just coincidence. Hitler met with Mussolini too. But again, what's the connection? None to the FS.
Another reviewer tells us that Browning (the author) lays it all on Hitler....
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"As Browning makes clear, Hitler himself was the driving force behind the Final Solution. "His obsession with the Jewish question ensured that the Nazi commitment would not slacken, that the search for a final solution one way or another to the problem would not be neglected or be indefinitely postponed."
Browning doesnt delve into the connection with MB extensively, because the documents that verified the timing of Hitler's decision werent discovered until well after he wrote the book. As I recall he does discuss it....reviewers have their own reasons for mentioning or not mentioning it, and the UNP their own reasons for selecting the reviews to quote.
What is absolutely clear and has been since Nuremberg is that Wisliczeny directly ascribes significant influence to al-H., that al-H wanted annhilation of the Jews and consistent with Hitler's cleansing of Germany, and that the first affirmative mentions of the implementation of the FS are immediately after al-H and Hitler met.
The dots are so close that for them not to be connected in a material manner is highly unlikely. As I recall, and I'll check after a conference call since its been a couple of years since I read extensively about it, but even the words "Final Solution" originated with the Muslim Brotherhood or earlier, and was adopted by Hitler.
Not sure why you raised the Mein Kampf question and then answered it with a quote...Hitler did not include plans for genocide at that point.
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