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DaddysInkedSlut -> Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 11:14:24 AM)

On many discussion boards I see comments such as "____ women won't let a man be a man" or "I don't feel I have to be ______ because women have done me wrong - so I'm going to act negatively" or "if it weren't for ____ women, ______ men could/would act like men".

This puzzles me greatly.

I was raised by a man, a stong alpha male. A man who would never let a woman (or women) dictate his behavior. He was strong, intelligent, noble, chivalrous, dependable, protective, nurturing, ambitious, respectful, honest, capable - all those qualities that I associate with being a man. NOT because a woman did/didn't do ____ to him - but because he was taught certain qualities or characteristics are inherent to being considered a man. He was taught by a man. He was truly an alpha male.

Now, I'm hearing that a woman can basically make/break a man. A woman's behavior predicts/controls a man's character. Can someone tell me what gives?

When did we enter this era where men are molded more by the behavior of others, than their own values/traits/characteristics? And what do you think is "pussifying" men these days?

When did I enter an era when men were afraid to tell the women in their lives to sit down, shut up and let him handle a situation? When did I enter an era where women were allowed by the men around them to immasculate them verbally and insult them publicly but when a man's stands up and tells her she is being a BITCH, he's wrong? When did being PC and "nice" become a requirement for manhood? When did I enter the era where men were lead around by their penises by women who simply now how to work it? When did we enter the era when a man was the sum of the equipment in his pants, not his actions or words?


So when did I enter the era where a man puts himself on the same level as a woman? I want a man who expects me to act like his woman, not his equal, not his boss but his WOMAN.

I know personally I refuse to deal with pussified men on any real basis. I want a man who defines himself, not one who is defined by me.

No weak ass pussified men for me... i want a MAN. I want an alpha male. I want to be able to be the woman in the relationship, after all if I wanted a pussy why wouldn't I simply be with another woman. After all I am bisexual.



scropiomoon727 -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 11:23:28 AM)

Women have the ability to incessantly, and relentlessly whittle a mans soul till he lacks the confidence to dress himself.  As if he ever had that ability in the first place. 




ourmsbetty -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 11:28:10 AM)

Actually, I think what we've entered is an area of epidemic excuses. People no longer feel they need to be accountable for their own behavior and it is easier to blame others than take responsibility for themselves.

They don't want to act they way the should not because of what someone else did or didn't do but because doing the right thing is hard and they want to do what's easy. Women are just a convenient scapegoat. People use others as well.

Mind you these are just some very rough observations.

Ms. Betty





juliaoceania -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 11:42:24 AM)

Switch woman with man in your post, and you can see the flaw in it


A woman, likewise, should not let a man define her character... otherwise she is dickified


Seriously, I kinda found this rant sexist



gungadin09 -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 11:45:53 AM)

i don't know whether i agree with you or not. i like strong, ethical, aggressive men too, but i can't say i like alpha males. To me, that term refers to someone whose need to be in charge and get their way is so great, that is becomes almost a weakness, like a child throwing a temper tantrum. i can't tell if my definition of the term "REAL MAN" is the same, or different from yours. i don't like men who throw emotional fits and break furniture, or holler all the time. To me, that smacks of weakness, not strength. i want someone with strong feelings, and yet has the discipline to control those feelings, and be logical and fair, even when they're being harsh. i also want Someone who respects me, and respects my intelligence, even though He's the one in control. i can't tell if i am agreeing or disagreeing with you there.

i will agree with you on one thing. i think the PC thing is overdone, and i would much rather be with Someone who knows His mind and speaks directly and honestly, even bluntly and tactlessly, than with Someone who spends their time walking on eggshells. To me, that is a "pussified man".

Why do some men act like that? i don't know. i would guess it's probably pressures from society. There is a really strong PC pressure these days. i think it just intimidates some people. Having said that, i pride myself on standing up for what i believe in, even if it goes against what's popular. i would not respect a man who allowed himself to be defined by others, or who cowed to do what others wanted from him. i respect courage, integrity, and honesty above all else.

pam



WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 11:46:06 AM)

The subtle passive aggressive hostility toward women, has been on my mind since I watched the Super Bowl. There was a theme prevalent in the commercials where women have pussywhipped men into compliance. The commercial that comes to mind was the one where the man was subjected to shopping and purse holding (ring a bell jeff and laurell?[:D]) and wife nagging; and the only say they had left, was in the car they chose to drive. That is the commercial that stands out in my memory, but nearly all the other commercials had a similar theme. Of course this is TV, and a marketing strategy aimed toward their target audience: men, but does it accurately reflect the actual mindset of men in general? Do men genuinely feel that women have dominated their lives to the extent they no longer have a say in how they live their lives? It is like today's society is a reverse caricature of the 50's household.



TheRaptorJesus -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 11:48:46 AM)

Some of what you said happened when we got out of the 1950's and stopped pretending men and women weren't equal.

Edit to add: It may be hard for you to comprehend considering you're a submissive (or slut, implied by your name I suppose) who wants/has a "daddy", but not everyone has the same slew of daddy issues or beliefs that you may possess. Some people think that the measure of a person's character is through their heart and mind, not what dangles of moistens in their pants.

You know.. real reasons.



popeye1250 -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 11:53:27 AM)

Pffft!



Level -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 11:56:24 AM)

WinD, that sort of thing has been coming from the media, especially tv, for some time now. It really hit home for me, some years ago, when a young woman kicked a young male in the nuts, and the tv audience laughed, and his response was to basically cower, and hope it didn't happen again.

Point this sort of thing out, and the primary responses are:

You're being whiny.

Women are just "catching up".

Oh, it's not so bad.

In my book, bullshit is bullshit.

Now, inky, I would not call a man that didn't tell his woman to "sit down and shut up" a pussy, necessarily.



Lockit -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 11:58:41 AM)

Wow Inked! You are typically the one sticking up for what is right and fair in your view of things... to hear you go off like that, suggests that something isn't right in your world. I am sorry.

But... the image of a dominant male, alpha male isn't always what it's cracked up to be and I have found myself much stronger than most the alpha males I have known. I have also known submissive men far stronger.. muscles galore and strong in character.

You are assigning your own take on what a male should be and insulting any other. Take as step back, will ya... chill.. work whatever out... but to offend based on whatever you are basing this rant on.. just isn't like you and isn't at all right.



juliaoceania -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:01:13 PM)

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when a young woman kicked a young male in the nuts, and the tv audience laughed, and his response was to basically cower, and hope it didn't happen again.


The whole entire reason that is funny is that the audience knows it is a reversal of fortunes. In other words, how many women do you know that go around kicking a man in the nuts, although it is incredibly common for men to do violence to women... it is not funny because it is empowering to women, it is funny because women are too weak in society's eyes to actually do that kicking.

Same reason it is okay for minorities to make fun of White people, we all know who really as the power in this country, and so let the minorities have their "fun", right?



lally2 -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:06:13 PM)

im not sure i know any pussified men - im thinking of all the men i know in various relationships with friends and rellies and i cant think of one.

however, if any of those men told their wives or girlfriends to sit down and shut up theyd probably get their supper thrown at them.  women just dont put up with that, either because they genuinely hate it or because society has told them that they shouldnt put up with that (well, in vanilla land anyway)

i personally loathe the way the media, driven lets face it by a minority of people in the shape of directors, producers and writers heap all of this crap on us and tell us its the norm.  it bloody isnt and i refuse to buy into it frankly.



Level -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:08:30 PM)

No, I think we can all make fun of each other.

And I don't think the gap between male on female violence is as wide as some believe.

IMO, the kid on the show should have gave her a titty twister that'd made her head spin, if not slapped the shit out of her, but of course, we can't do that... [:D]



DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:08:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Wow Inked! You are typically the one sticking up for what is right and fair in your view of things... to hear you go off like that, suggests that something isn't right in your world. I am sorry.

But... the image of a dominant male, alpha male isn't always what it's cracked up to be and I have found myself much stronger than most the alpha males I have known. I have also known submissive men far stronger.. muscles galore and strong in character.

You are assigning your own take on what a male should be and insulting any other. Take as step back, will ya... chill.. work whatever out... but to offend based on whatever you are basing this rant on.. just isn't like you and isn't at all right.



My OP wasn't meant as an insult to anyone, it was me questioning things. Things that I see in every day life. Things that have changed over the yrs and not for the good IMO.

This is ME standing up for what I think.
This is ME expressing myself and asking questions.
This is ME indeed expressing some frustration with some things.

I was actually very careful to use the word "I" so it would appear obvious at least to me that I speaking for MYSELF not for anyone else.

ETA: Was my OP sexists as suggested, I dont think so but that would depend on your definition of what being sexist is  julia



DomImus -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:13:32 PM)

A quick show of hands... how many women want to live in the same situation that the OP describes?

Just curious.



DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:15:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

when a young woman kicked a young male in the nuts, and the tv audience laughed, and his response was to basically cower, and hope it didn't happen again.


The whole entire reason that is funny is that the audience knows it is a reversal of fortunes. In other words, how many women do you know that go around kicking a man in the nuts, although it is incredibly common for men to do violence to women... it is not funny because it is empowering to women, it is funny because women are too weak in society's eyes to actually do that kicking.




I actually knew a girl in high school that when she gave guys hugs she would kick them in the balls. She thought this was a funny. Now if the the guys would have beat the shit out of her for it she would be the victim not the aggressor.

I also do not think the "gap" between male and female violence is all that great. Granted I dont have statistic or anything to back that up it is MY personal believe. Look at the prisons.



MadameMarque -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:18:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheRaptorJesus

Some of what you said happened when we got out of the 1950's and stopped pretending men and women weren't equal.

Edit to add: It may be hard for you to comprehend considering you're a submissive (or slut, implied by your name I suppose) who wants/has a "daddy", but not everyone has the same slew of daddy issues or beliefs that you may possess. Some people think that the measure of a person's character is through their heart and mind, not what dangles of moistens in their pants.

You know.. real reasons.



Thank you, Jesus



juliaoceania -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:21:18 PM)

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ETA: Was my OP sexists as suggested, I dont think so but that would depend on your definition of what being sexist is  julia


It is MY opinion that it is wrong for anyone to tell another person to sit down and shut the fuck up because of their gender...

In my mind respect between people should be something to strive for, but that is just me... You want a world in which one person has it over on another person because they have a penis. I think that is sexist...


I CHOOSE to have a man that leads me... but a man that would think it is okay to tell me to shut the fuck up? That ain't no alpha man, that is a man who does not respect me and by extension doesn't respect himself if I am his reflection...

Just ME, etc



juliaoceania -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:22:44 PM)

quote:

And I don't think the gap between male on female violence is as wide as some believe.


Just the damage inflicted..



juliaoceania -> RE: Rant of sorts....pussified men (7/18/2010 12:26:11 PM)

quote:

Now if the the guys would have beat the shit out of her for it she would be the victim not the aggressor.


Not in my state.....



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