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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
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Can anyone answer the question of how we got to be the ones who say who can have nukes ? Only we and Israel have the most, and don't want anyone else to have them.
Not exactly, no one gives two shits if, say, Ireland had them, or the Netherlands.
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The US was the first to use nukes, nobody else.
You would have preferred that we invaded Japan, very likely at the cost of many more lives? Are you in favor of saving lives or opposed? I think you're just in favor of attacking the United States, at least rhetorically. I'm surprised you don't have some kind words for Tojo's regime.
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We are talking about sovreign countries who would be pleased to leave us alone, but if you were Iran, what would you do ?
First, you just brought up Japan, which was not pleased to leave us alone in the early 1940s. Second, you really don't know shit about Iran, do you? This is the regime that invaded our embassy and held people in it hostage. This is the regime where mullahs condemned Salman Rushdie to death. This is the regime that has been left alone but has this suspicious thirst for nukes and lies about it repeatedly, saying it wants nuclear power when it's sitting on top of a sea of oil. This is the country that financed terrorists in Lebanon and Israel. This is the country that violates the human rights of its own citizens right and left.
Terrorists and nukes. Helluva combination. Past history of violating international norms and being aggressive. Oh, you're absolutely right. The only countries to be suspicious of are the United States and Israel.
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We constantly tell them that they have no right to defend themselves, well against almost everybody else OK, but not us. That is fucking tyranny.
"Tyranny" surprising that that's a word in your vocabulary. Not surprising at all that you use it against the U.S.
"Right to defend themselves"? Who's threatening them and how?
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Israel has over 100 neutron bombs, why are they OK ? Because they won't wreck the place ? It is OK for them to have them but nobody else, and that seems logical. That is sad. That is the saddest part, that people cannot seem to look at things objectively.
"Objectively." What a joke. OBJECTIVELY, Israel won't wreck the place. That's because simple possession of nukes isn't the problem -- it's WHO possesses the nukes. But everybody, and I mean everybody but you, already knows that. OBJECTIVELY we can't be sure that Iran won't wreck the place, and once they have nukes, it's a helluva lot harder to prevent them from wrecking the place.
Term, you accept at face value what the enemies of the United States say about themselves, even when there's evidence out there that shows those enemies can't be trusted to tell the truth. Then you are overly suspicious about any move the United States makes. Your policy ideas, if adopted, would put us at risk. You have no judgment whatever.
That's how you can make an assinine statement like this:
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Who has ever used an atomic weapon other than the US ? Perhaps it is we who need inspections.
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