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LadyConstanze -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/4/2010 2:21:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: dbloomer


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

What are you doing with people who are pros but come here to find lifestyle players just for fun? I know quite a few of them.


Then they can either create a second profile NOT flagged "pro-dom" for their non-professional use, which seems like the logical thing to do anyways, or the system can impliment ANOTHER flag, pro-dom/lifestyle flag which identifies accounts as both, and men will be able to toggle on and off the "ignore pro-dom" search option at their leisure.


Oh can we also have one button for every profession? You know accountants, managers, etc. If they charge for their professional services, why not? Or please one for the unemployed people who want dominant partners to take care of them and pay for their expenses, happens fairly often too.... Or is it just because for the odd guy it is too much trouble to read a profile and skip pros?


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I also made the experience that a lot of guys are sending very detailed requests and expect dommes (somehow I don't think I am the rare exception and they are only doing this to me because I'm so very special) to jump through hoops, buy stuff, expect us to have a playroom in our house or rent one, all for the pleasure of their company and to fulfill their wish list, the "I'm not really interested" doesn't seem to register AT ALL, they just keep on writing, but oh beware if you tell them that they want somebody who's only there to fulfill their fantasies, they should see a professional domme because I AM REALLY NOT INTERESTED, they get quite aggressive. You know if I made a post each time one of those "charmers" contacts me, I'd be spamming the boards daily. Now add to this the guys who want a bit of "cyber fun" (of course I would be allowed to watch their cam for my pleasure alone - yawn) or the ones who are married and are looking for a bit of fun without the wife knowing (yeah, how can somebody resist them), or the ones who think they can give you a grilling to the nth degree because you happen to be on this site, so as a female you must be fair game... I am sure I left some out, just a few of the most usual CMs you get, then I don't really think that complaining that a woman might not answer a mail or that some of them may be pros really cuts it.

Plus as a woman, a guy who can't be bothered to read my profile because it is too much effort - why on earth should I be interested in him in the 1st place?



I am not unsympathetic to the problems you experience. I don't know how they relate to the usefulness of a pro-dom flag on this site.



Oh funny, since those problems bother women they are not important, we can ignore them, but please please lets not force poor guys to actually READ profiles, too much work and we can't really force that on them. It relates very simple, how many of the post do you see where guys complain and complain because they want it easy.

Of course if guys not tell you that they are married, we don't need a button... Hell no, as women we can deal with that but beware that a guy has to put in any effort, I see how that is far too much to ask.

Plus the usefulness of those buttons are more than debatable, you don't really think that spammers would use them?

A couple of people have problems with pros here, I see the word hookers tossed around, funny that because most of the pro dommes I know won't have sexual intercourse with their clients, quite a lot of the guys on this site want to f*** no matter if they are sub or dom, and as many women as possible, never heard a bad word about them. That to me is a double standard.

Don't get me wrong, I have every issue with spammers and people who are trying to exploit others, but if somebody says they offer a service and they are pro, that is honest and you just have to go through the "massive trouble" of reading their profiles, if you can't be bothered with reading a profile, well, why should a woman be even interested in you if you are showing so little interest? And as several people have pointed out, the ones who want to scam, they won't tell you.

But of course since a problem might bother MEN it's a HUGE problem, we got to bend over backwards to make it easier for them, let's blissfully ignore everything women have to deal with, because apparently they are grown up enough to deal with it and don't expect to have everything delivered on a silver plate.

I've been on this site for years, I've met some great people who turned into fantastic friends, I've met some people I enjoyed playing with, I met some downright disturbed people, some really unpleasant experiences, but oddly enough I don't complain and complain and want everybody to find a solution so I got it easier. I'm one of the people who sometimes delete messages unread because I find the user name distasteful, I tend to block people a lot easier if they don't understand a "Thank you but no thank you", now if I can do it, pray tell why can't men? Are men really such fragile creatures that they need to be mollycoddled? In that case certainly not the right subs for me, because like most other dommes, I much much prefer a guy who submits from strength than from weakness...




LadyConstanze -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/4/2010 2:27:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: realwhiteknight



I'd *really* like to put them all on automatic block.

Luckily, I recently found a way to do just that via my profile. It works! [;)]




I'm so going to check out your profile and steal your idea!




LadyConstanze -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/4/2010 2:30:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

And now there's a poll, please visit:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3344655/tm.htm




LOL, you can bet that the multiple names will vote multiple times ;)




realwhiteknight -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/4/2010 2:32:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: realwhiteknight



I'd *really* like to put them all on automatic block.

Luckily, I recently found a way to do just that via my profile. It works! [;)]




I'm so going to check out your profile and steal your idea!



haha, all I can say is, in the last 2 days my # of Incoming!s have dropped about 90%. And those were mostly from people I already know. [:D]




Wickad -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/4/2010 2:38:30 AM)

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LadyConstanze -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/4/2010 10:03:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: dbloomer


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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

Actually, it's stranger that 3 five year old profiles with 50 posts between them have arrived to defend the OP against all the rampaging ridicule.
 
What HASN'T been addressed by the OP is the question of why not try munches, why not participate in the forums? Participation is the best filter.


I gaurantee you munches are going to seem a lot more enticing to him after the revelations of this thread. Munches however, do nothing to increase the efficiency of CM. That's why he suggested the idea here.




He suggested the idea here because he wants an ideal world where everything is delivered to him and he doesn't have to put in any effort - that's so going to fly with dominant women... And nope, I don't charge but I also don't want a lazy sub who thinks I should apply to him and bend over backwards to service him, so he can "worship me" in the way that floats his boat, sorry but like most dominant women I have ZERO time for people who are too bone idle to read profiles, if I want to donate to a charity, there are plenty around, I don't look for subs as charity cases...




MistressLavinia -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/4/2010 10:25:48 AM)

Love me or hate me I care less, but I do feel the need to respond.

Firstly, I am not a prodomme, My reasons for being here, are much different then a lot of peoples, but mainly for my friends. I'm not here to cause trouble, or to be a bitch, so don't bitch at me for my opinion. The forums are just that, forums to place whatever you want, I do believe Collarme judges what is appropriate and what is not. If you don't agree with the OPs post then of course you can have an opinion but who should judge the next person on their beliefs. After all maybe one day Collarme will have a special area just for the prodommes, again, I can't judge but do have an opinion. Many of my friends are prodommes even on this site, I don't agree with a lot of it, It's definitely not for me, but it is for them.

I think a lot of times, its almost bullying when someone writes behind a computer and attacks a person for their opinion. I think whats more important beside the "having a section for prodommes" Is people letting others have a opinion without attacking them for one.

And that is my opinion, mine maybe not anyone elses, but mine.

Lavinia




tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/4/2010 10:36:16 AM)

Now why has no one asked the one obvious question? ( And I sure hope I don't get mod slapped for this.)

But why can't we have a filter for whiny ass, woe is me, alas no one wants me douchecanoes? That to me would be worth paying for. As a sub with a profile that clearly states that I'm taken, I still get hate mail from dominant men because apparently "i want to draw attention to myself", "I'm a twit who's dom should drop me and I'm a box of shit", "I don't have to state the obvious" annnnnnnnd my all time favorite "I'm stroking my ego while debasing men". All this from someone I've never met, never had contact with, then can't even send a reply since I've been blocked. I can't lose for winning, or vice-versa whatever it is.

Even a polite "thanks but no thanks" doesn't work, I get called all sortsta names, most of the vile for no other reason than I've indicated that I'm no longer available.

I get emails on a weekly basis that are from obvious scammers, cut and pastes, rude fukktards who think that I'm just going to fall for them and a) send money (yeah riiiiiiiiiiight), b) leave the Man who cares for me like no other. The difference between me and the OP is that I know how to delete and block and don't complain about it on the forums by starting thread # 325,478 about the same damn thing. Most of us have the brainpower and the common sense to know when a profile is fake, the hide button on the other side is so easy to use. I should know, i use it frequently when going thru profiles.

There, 'Nuff said.




realwhiteknight -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/5/2010 3:39:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tiggerspoohbear

Now why has no one asked the one obvious question? ( And I sure hope I don't get mod slapped for this.)

But why can't we have a filter for whiny ass, woe is me, alas no one wants me douchecanoes? That to me would be worth paying for. As a sub with a profile that clearly states that I'm taken, I still get hate mail from dominant men because apparently "i want to draw attention to myself", "I'm a twit who's dom should drop me and I'm a box of shit", "I don't have to state the obvious" annnnnnnnd my all time favorite "I'm stroking my ego while debasing men". All this from someone I've never met, never had contact with, then can't even send a reply since I've been blocked. I can't lose for winning, or vice-versa whatever it is.

There, 'Nuff said.


The reason is that it wouldn't be worth the effort to create a new category that 99.9% of the men on here would fit into. [:D]




tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/5/2010 4:05:56 AM)

You nailed it in one, considering none of em think they're whiny and asshats. [:D]




problemchild -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/5/2010 8:09:31 PM)

It's incredible that so many people never got the point and made it all about their own egos, not the issue itself. It's a reasonable request. If all I had to do with my freakin' life was go through CM profiles ALL DAY and try to make contact --which is what some of you I think do-- then yes, you could criticize me for being lazy I guess.

I am different than you. Much different. And maybe part of the culture here is wasting time.





LadyPact -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/6/2010 7:44:32 AM)

I think the point was that to most people, it isn't really an issue.  There isn't any segment of the CM population that doesn't have it's share of annoyances.  An additional flag wouldn't really fix that.  You have to look at the issue over all.

The only folks who would voluntarily check the flag would be those who already state in their profile that they are a pro.  All well and good, but if you've read the whole thread, there were complaints more about the bait and switch folks.  The ones who don't say they want money up front, but only mention that after someone has started emailing with them.  The volunteering to flag your own profile won't work there.

If other people flag the profile, you're going to see what happened on this very thread.  Someone who has never met Me decided that I was a pro, even though I'm not.  However, if enough people would choose to flag My profile as such, I'd be stuck with the flag.  That's certainly not a good way to go about it.

I don't really think it's the site's responsibility to be concerned with how much time a person has to read profiles.  That's like saying it's your boss' problem that you have a two hour drive to work rather than one hour.  All you boss cares is that you get to work on time.  He's not going to move the office just to make it more convenient for you.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/6/2010 8:17:18 AM)

I canot believe this thread is still going on!




Fejjjj -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/6/2010 8:18:39 AM)

Nor can I!




CalifChick -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/6/2010 10:25:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: problemchild

It's incredible that so many people never got the point and made it all about their own egos, not the issue itself. It's a reasonable request. If all I had to do with my freakin' life was go through CM profiles ALL DAY and try to make contact --which is what some of you I think do-- then yes, you could criticize me for being lazy I guess.

I am different than you. Much different. And maybe part of the culture here is wasting time.



Yes, you ARE much different.  To that end, read on...


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
I canot believe this thread is still going on!



I cannot believe that he isn't even making an attempt to hide the sock puppets anymore.

Cali




Fejjjj -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/6/2010 10:28:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CalifChick


I cannot believe that he isn't even making an attempt to hide the sock puppets anymore.

Cali




Me either!............... some people.........


shakes Her head




CalifChick -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/6/2010 10:39:54 AM)

Here's your sock puppet, Fejjj.  It had a caption of "Jefff" on it, not sure if that means anything to you...



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problemchild -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/6/2010 12:24:41 PM)

And most of you continue to make my point. There's a pathetic insecurity among you.

BTW, it's not what women, dom, sub, switch, bi lez or whatever, think about it. The majority of "dom" women will be against it because they are, by and large, prostitutes. They can't face the reality of that fact and it's sad, but true.

But there are lifestyle dominant women, superior to the prostitutes, and the majority of sub guys WOULD want a filter that helped them find the lifestyle dommes.

This is not complicated.




problemchild -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/6/2010 12:44:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: problemchild

It's incredible that so many people never got the point and made it all about their own egos, not the issue itself. It's a reasonable request. If all I had to do with my freakin' life was go through CM profiles ALL DAY and try to make contact --which is what some of you I think do-- then yes, you could criticize me for being lazy I guess.

I am different than you. Much different. And maybe part of the culture here is wasting time.



Yes, you ARE much different.  To that end, read on...


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
I canot believe this thread is still going on!



I cannot believe that he isn't even making an attempt to hide the sock puppets anymore.

Cali



LOL.

Cali, you need to get a life.




BoiJen -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/6/2010 12:55:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: problemchild

And most of you continue to make my point. There's a pathetic insecurity among you.

BTW, it's not what women, dom, sub, switch, bi lez or whatever, think about it. The majority of "dom" women will be against it because they are, by and large, prostitutes. They can't face the reality of that fact and it's sad, but true.

But there are lifestyle dominant women, superior to the prostitutes, and the majority of sub guys WOULD want a filter that helped them find the lifestyle dommes.

This is not complicated.


Projecting much?




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