RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money?

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dbloomer -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:21:23 AM)
quote: So by udaboss's reckoning, you will then have a list of 3 real dommes and 9857634 pro dommes. I don't see how this helps him. Plus, more significantly, pro dommes will just list themselves as dommes and unfurl their nefarious webs later in the process, right? You've just illustrated my point PERFECTLY. It doesn't help him find a dom, it helps him to not waste his time. He'll realize he's wasting his time and eject. CM doesn't want this. It means less users, which means less advertising dollars.

problemchild -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:24:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EbonyWood by udaboss's reckoning, you will then have a list of 3 real dommes and 9857634 pro dommes. I don't see how this helps him. Plus, more significantly, pro dommes will just list themselves as dommes and unfurl their nefarious webs later in the process, right? Well, if that's true, then I might as well delete my account, because I wan't nothing to do with dommes for hire. Evidently, you think dominant women only act dominant when they're getting paid to do it. And maybe you're right. Maybe there is no such thing as a dominant woman. That's a sad view of the world.

EbonyWood -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:28:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: problemchild Just finished reading this thread and it's sad. Many of the posts never addressed, or barely addressed, the idea. Rather, they just wanted to attack a person. I think it's a good idea. There might be some initial problems implementing it but they'd get worked out. I'm also a submissive looking for a lifestyle domme and I know I'd love that feature -- or some way to filter out women who are "dommes" for money. Actually, it's stranger that 3 five year old profiles with 50 posts between them have arrived to defend the OP against all the rampaging ridicule. What HASN'T been addressed by the OP is the question of why not try munches, why not participate in the forums? Participation is the best filter.

dbloomer -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:30:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EbonyWood Actually, it's stranger that 3 five year old profiles with 50 posts between them have arrived to defend the OP against all the rampaging ridicule. What HASN'T been addressed by the OP is the question of why not try munches, why not participate in the forums? Participation is the best filter. I gaurantee you munches are going to seem a lot more enticing to him after the revelations of this thread. Munches however, do nothing to increase the efficiency of CM. That's why he suggested the idea here.

problemchild -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:31:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EbonyWood quote: ORIGINAL: problemchild Just finished reading this thread and it's sad. Many of the posts never addressed, or barely addressed, the idea. Rather, they just wanted to attack a person. I think it's a good idea. There might be some initial problems implementing it but they'd get worked out. I'm also a submissive looking for a lifestyle domme and I know I'd love that feature -- or some way to filter out women who are "dommes" for money. Actually, it's stranger that 3 five year old profiles with 50 posts between them have arrived to defend the Huh??!

EbonyWood -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:32:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: problemchild quote: ORIGINAL: EbonyWood by udaboss's reckoning, you will then have a list of 3 real dommes and 9857634 pro dommes. I don't see how this helps him. Plus, more significantly, pro dommes will just list themselves as dommes and unfurl their nefarious webs later in the process, right? Well, if that's true, then I might as well delete my account, because I wan't nothing to do with dommes for hire. Evidently, you think dominant women only act dominant when they're getting paid to do it. And maybe you're right. Maybe there is no such thing as a dominant woman. That's a sad view of the world. Go look up the meaning of irony. Understanding it will help you in your life. But delete away.

MissAsylum -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:33:02 AM)
i find it hilarious that you ignored the rest of my post. and dispite me posting the same thing that somebody else did, it doesn't seem to detter you in any way. how cute. like what laurell mentioned earlier- if prodommes are going to get flagged, where are the flags for the men who are married- the ones who think "lifestyle" means "free fuck". no mention of that. have to be fair on both sides, which seems to be forgotten 99.9% of the time threads like these are started.

BoiJen -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:41:14 AM)
None of this anything to do with the fact that most of the "fetishists" here aren't looking to contribute more than showing up to get off. It has to do with women seeking SOMEthing, ANYthing of value to even out the contribution levels between players. And women don't have the right to demand such things...silly people. boi

udaboss -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:41:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dbloomer Munches however, do nothing to increase the efficiency of CM. That's why he suggested the idea here. Thanks. You get it. I've given up the idea that the idea is going to be discussed; it seems to be me that is getting all the attention. I've noticed this seems to be in a lot of posts -- people who contribute NOTHING to the discussion other than attacking other members.

dbloomer -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:43:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissAsylum i find it hilarious that you ignored the rest of my post. and dispite me posting the same thing that somebody else did, it doesn't seem to detter you in any way. how cute. like what laurell mentioned earlier- if prodommes are going to get flagged, where are the flags for the men who are married- the ones who think "lifestyle" means "free fuck". no mention of that. have to be fair on both sides, which seems to be forgotten 99.9% of the time threads like these are started. Current marital status, sexual preference, ect ect. are COMMON criteria on dating sites. I have no problems adding a NSA flag or a Non-polygamy flag, or even having a positive/negative feedback flag like on Ebay. Again, the reason that these don't exist is that it will widdle down our search results THAT much more, reducing the profitability of CM. Where you got the idea that I thought women don't have a right to know of they're hooking up with married men or not is a mystery to me.

BoiJen -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:44:21 AM)
Actually, the idea has been discussed extensively in this thread. from addressing issues of the effectiveness of flagging profiles to how to implement a system. What's been ignored are the real concerns of man power. There is already a reporting system in place, it's incredibly ineffective because it's automated. The reason it's automated is because the owners of CM don't have the ability to hire anybody to do this job for them. Which where things fall apart .... boi

dbloomer -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:45:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dbloomer Munches however, do nothing to increase the efficiency of CM. That's why he suggested the idea here. quote: Thanks. You get it. I've given up the idea that the idea is going to be discussed; it seems to be me that is getting all the attention. Of COURSE I get it, anyone looking at the facts instead of indudging their desire to debate would get it. It's as simple as 1+1=2. quote: I've noticed this seems to be in a lot of posts -- people who contribute NOTHING to the discussion other than attacking other members. People have been trained to push people away when they aren't the same. Nail that sticks up... Gets hammered down. Sometimes... The structure that all the nails are holding together is broken. In this case, the nails need to come out and work to rebuild something better for everyone.

EbonyWood -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:49:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dbloomer quote: ORIGINAL: EbonyWood Actually, it's stranger that 3 five year old profiles with 50 posts between them have arrived to defend the OP against all the rampaging ridicule. What HASN'T been addressed by the OP is the question of why not try munches, why not participate in the forums? Participation is the best filter. I gaurantee you munches are going to seem a lot more enticing to him after the revelations of this thread. Munches however, do nothing to increase the efficiency of CM. That's why he suggested the idea here. Actually you just emphasised my point, which was that his search revolves around using a website. My advice earlier in the thread was to lose that concept and go and participate in something beyond trolling profiles. Increasing the efficiency of a primary method I don't endorse isnt therefore high on my priorities. As an aside, why shouldn't the site owners be able to use whatever method they deem fit to use to retain members and advertising dollars? That's their revenue. You or I didn't pay to join this site. Departure is free too. You're a consumer criticizing an essentially free product. I'm sure the futlity of that will sink in at some point.

MissAsylum -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:50:38 AM)
i did not say you endorse women not knowing if somebody is married or not. i said they should be flagged also if prodommes are. and like i posted earlier- craigslist and collarme are the same in terms of posting adult services in the correct areas. and again, i'm not saying its a good idea or a bad idea, but since you have such strong feelings about this- you and everybody else who feels the same should a) volunteer all of your free time to enabling such features on the site, b) pay some IT workers to do it, c) deal with the site as is, or d) (as EW posted) LEAVE. nobody is twisting your arm to stay here. by all means, go bide your time elsewhere.

udaboss -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:52:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoiJen Actually, the idea has been discussed extensively in this thread. from addressing issues of the effectiveness of flagging profiles to how to implement a system. What's been ignored are the real concerns of man power. There is already a reporting system in place, it's incredibly ineffective because it's automated. The reason it's automated is because the owners of CM don't have the ability to hire anybody to do this job for them. Which where things fall apart .... boi Hell, I'd be willing to do it for them for free. Labor of Love. There are somewhere between 30 and 80 new profiles for dommes every day. There would be fewer who attempted to post as lifestylers if there were two categories in the first place, and I could easily go through those and weed out the ones who said they were pros, or asked for a tribute, or any of that sort of stuff. And they wouldn't be deleted - just put in another category. Would some slip through the cracks? Of course. But feedback from users could whittle that list down even further. I accept that there aren't that many pure lifestyle dommes out there. But there are some and that's the population I want to focus my energy on. Nobody said it would be perfect, but you can do something or you can do nothing. Some people seem to think it isn't even worth a try and I can't agree with that. If it's a total failure, then fine. We go back to the old way. I don't think it would be a failure.

Jeffff -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:52:21 AM)
Yeah, no one lies on Match.com or Eharm................. It comes down to common sense. Either you have it or you don't. When you open your sooper web site send me a c-mail. I'd love to take a look.

EbonyWood -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:53:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: udaboss quote: ORIGINAL: dbloomer Munches however, do nothing to increase the efficiency of CM. That's why he suggested the idea here. Thanks. You get it. I've given up the idea that the idea is going to be discussed; it seems to be me that is getting all the attention. I've noticed this seems to be in a lot of posts -- people who contribute NOTHING to the discussion other than attacking other members. Your last 3 posts (under this name) have now been about you being attacked, instead of the topic. You've derailed your own thread. What you really need to start is a thread about getting attention by self victimization.

WyldHrt -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:55:27 AM)
quote: This argument has already been made and been refuted COMPLETELY, with a real-world example of how a community can govern itself by flagging profiles, or in craigslist terms, ads. Repeating that "it's not viable" after I've proven it is viable, doesn't change anything. Comparing Craigslist to CM..... interesting. Here's the problem with your little scenario. If all it takes is one report to flag a profile, anyone can drop a pro tag on a Domme that doesn't reply to their email, replies in a way that they do not like, or dumps them after a relationship. If it takes more than one, well it has already been amply demonstrated in this thread that creating a sockpuppet profile is quite easy. Some people have 3 or 4 of them, often used in threads where they are not getting the replies that they want. [8\|] I highly doubt that Craigslist has this type of problem often, and when it happens, they have the staff to deal with it. Here's a link to why CM does not allow blacklisting: http://www.collarchat.com/m_1163969/tm.htm

ccAdriennEcc -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:58:01 AM)
let me say first and foremost - yes, perhaps cm should have a "lifestyle only" section. what irks me is your wording....".....dommes who aren't after money".....as though we're gold diggers. I AM beautiful. I AM dominant. and I DO have a right to pursue a career in a field that i love. isn't that the idea? isn't that what everyone strives for - to work in a field their passionate about? and i've done just that. i think being referred to as just someone who's after $$ is inaccurate, and rather insulting. i'm a professional, making a living. and enjoying it. now with that said - yes perhaps cm could or should provide some way of filtering the pros from the non-pros. it would save us ALL time. however, there is no need for hate. that's my only point. i go above and beyond for my subs, who are also my clients, who are also my FRIENDS.

EbonyWood -> RE: Couldn't CM Have a Category for Dommes Who Aren't After Money? (8/3/2010 10:58:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff I agree with Jeffff. oops............. EW, You are so right. And goodlooking.

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