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ORIGINAL: realwhiteknight
WTF. this is the problem with your mentality. What are you a God or something? Both of these things are actually totally normal and healthy responses to 1. her biology and 2. the environment. There IS no 'inappropriate' handling of jealousy other than lashing out at someone. What sort of twisted fascist are you?

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance
Thats something that she has to modify most likely with connotative behavioral therapy.

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance
Ive seen depression and bi polar do a lot of things, but ive NEVER seen it FORCE someone to be a Cunt to other people.

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

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ORIGINAL: realwhiteknight
WTF. this is the problem with your mentality. What are you a God or something? Both of these things are actually totally normal and healthy responses to 1. her biology and 2. the environment. There IS no 'inappropriate' handling of jealousy other than lashing out at someone. What sort of twisted fascist are you?

No this is a problem with dealing with ones emotions. Bipolar is a MOOD disorder, most moods can be classifed with some type of emotion involved with it. Dealing with it negatively Ie Always saying unplesant things (which TO ME IS lashing out) Isnt okay, Isnt alright and wouldnt be tolerated by me regardless or the relationship.

Shes depressed, so she takes her depression out on everyone else by saying unplesant things (Misery loves company anyone?). Thats not okay, and thats something SHE has to control, Not her owner, Not her shrink Not her therapist. Thats not something that is going to be fixed with the medication the yoga the diet. Its not going to be her biology, or her environment.... Its got to be something SHE fixes in HERSELF with IN herself. Can the therapy give her tools for better handling her emotions and the way she responds to people Yes. But thats not going to MAKE her stop lashing out because shes in a depressive state.  Thats something that she has to modify most likely with cognitive (because wanders is my hero at fixing typos) behavioral therapy.

Its her choice COMPLETELY to say or not say unpleasant things. Just like its her choice completely to not say those unpleasant things when she is in a manic or "Normal" state.  Ive seen depression and bi polar do a lot of things, but ive NEVER seen it FORCE someone to be a Cunt to other people.

ETA Id also like to add her outbursts are most likely because she bipolar type 1 (manic)

There are 3 types of bi polar bi polar I bi polar II and bi polar Mixed.

Type I Is when one spends periods in mania usually lasting between 2 weeks to 3 months then one goes into transition "normal" Phase and has a short period of depression lasting between 1 day and 3 weeks then going back into transition then into mania.

type 2 is the same except reverse the depression and mania periods.

Mixed is where one usually spends equal parts in each phase.

Since its only a problem when shes depressed, shes most likely lashing out to have some form of control over that part of the cycle,  to feel more in control of her body and cope with the change. People who are type one or two tend to be more "out of control" during the shorter cycle. 

Again this is not her masters fault and nothing her master can do besides say look you need to get the treatment you need (which is usually life long not just a few months) and get your act together, its not your disorder its how your deciding to cope with it,

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ORIGINAL: realwhiteknight



WOW. This coming from someone who admittedly suffers from 'bipolar problems'??

Projection anyone?

You are NOT a doctor. You *clearly* have no training that suffices to advise anyone with a mental disorder. You are however, WAY overheated over a simple OP from a stranger on a message board.

You don't seem to realize that the way the OP phrased her behavior could very likely be a result of her depression-colored glasses, not the objective truth?How do you even know she's 'acting like a cunt' for real? Just got people some slack unless you have a serious knowledge of the subject matter before you can adequately discern how much actual CONTROL over themselves they really do have.

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ORIGINAL: realwhiteknight

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ORIGINAL: aldompdx

I completely agree with IronBear, who shares yet another excellent answer.

Additionally consider meditation as a discipline to quiet the mind and center the heart.

One overlooked treatment for the physiological condition is fish oil, where the Omega-3 EPA and DHA lipids serve to balance synaptic and neuronal function. This has been supported but not conclusively confirmed in several double blind studies.
Linus Pauling Institute: Micronutirent Research for Optimum Health
Note: more than 1gram each of EPA and DHA is necessary. Omega-6 ALA does not work.

For a person suffering from Bi- polar disorder you are suggesting meditation and fish oil?

Really?..........

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Omega 3 fatty acids (fish oil) are becoming a much more common adjuctive therapy in many mental illnesses.

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Meditation techniques can be a part of psycho-therapy... .

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I don't get it. How will she find the time to talk about her childhood between manic fits and severe depression?

I had a year of 'psychotherapy' when I was a teenager after my father died. I talked alot about my shitty childhood. It felt good.

It did nothing for the ADHD which was why I failed every class that semester.

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance


ETA Id also like to add her outbursts are most likely because she bipolar type 1 (manic)

There are 3 types of bi polar bi polar I bi polar II and bi polar Mixed.

Type I Is when one spends periods in mania usually lasting between 2 weeks to 3 months then one goes into transition "normal" Phase and has a short period of depression lasting between 1 day and 3 weeks then going back into transition then into mania.

type 2 is the same except reverse the depression and mania periods.

Mixed is where one usually spends equal parts in each phase.

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

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ORIGINAL: realwhiteknight
WTF. this is the problem with your mentality. What are you a God or something? Both of these things are actually totally normal and healthy responses to 1. her biology and 2. the environment. There IS no 'inappropriate' handling of jealousy other than lashing out at someone. What sort of twisted fascist are you?

No this is a problem with dealing with ones emotions. Bipolar is a MOOD disorder, most moods can be classifed with some type of emotion involved with it. Dealing with it negatively Ie Always saying unplesant things (which TO ME IS lashing out) Isnt okay, Isnt alright and wouldnt be tolerated by me regardless or the relationship.

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ORIGINAL: realwhiteknight

What is your source again? I've read lots of variations of this. Is what you ve outlined above the same as what is in the DSMIV?

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

Seeing as Ive suffered from the disorder for 21 years, I think I have serious knowledge on the subject matter, I was diagnosed bi polar depressive when i was 15 years old, however had symptoms from early childhood on starting as early as age three.

I am taking the op at what she says, she when she is depressed says unpleasant things, that to me is acting like a cunt.

I had a huge problem with my mania, I would go in to extreme fits of rage, and letting it all out on other people made me feel better Is the OP me? No, but she sounds a lot like me from her post and her profile. I know why i acted and reacted that way, mostly because it put me in control of the mania. I also learned its not okay for me to act out my mania in the way i had learned to cope with it. Fits of rage that ended up in harming myself property or others was not okay.

Taking out your depression on someone is not okay, i dont give a fuck how you learned to cope, you need to learn more appropriate methods. This wasnt fixed by doctors this wasnt fixed by medication this wasnt fixed by anyone other then myself, seeing my family have fear of me being manic.... did the therapists help me learn better ways yes? but it was up and still is up to me to use what it is ive learned.

I know how much control over myself I have, I know when i do not have control over myself to leave the situation until I do. Im still responsible for my actions reguardless of hte chemical imbalance or the emotions I feel. No matter what IM responsible for myself.

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Post 27.

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Hmm.... Post 27 doesn't advise not seeing a doctor. It mentions the "additional" potential benefits of meditation, and mentions one over-looked treatment (fish oil).

Now I think the fish oil route is a bit of a red herring personally, but it really doesn't say "don't see a doc".

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You roll your eyes. It's not just scientifically fatuous, it's making light of the situation.

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They are also a FAR cry from being an 'adjunct therapy', the idea of which is insanely laughable.

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance



I gave up on the medication when it started to cause kidney failure and wasnt helping the ups or the downs. When the doctor told me it would need to be just right to work. The problem was my body adjusted to the medication to quickly and built up a tolerance too quickly. So even if it worked it was very short lived.

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ORIGINAL: loyalonlychild

Greetings.  my Master has been told that His slavegirl has Bi-Polar affective disorder.  Sadly He is unable to cope with the depressive side where this girl does not have much, if anything pleasant to say.   When girl is manic, most is in harmony, apart from trying to get girl to sleep....her mind is racing.  my Master is at his wits end, and this girl sinks lower into depression knowing her illness has caused all this headache for my Master.
This slavegirl would be gratefull for practical help, yes we have professionals ( vanillas ).  What would You do,?.  Would You release her only on the basis of her illness, ?.  Would You stand by her side and support Your slavegirl through therapy for 6 months,?.
Very interested to know Your feedback. Thank You. slavegirl kyun.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

However, I again would like to point out that the dom in question has made it clear he only wants her when she's manic, not when she's normal. That for me is unforgiveable, that he has a vested interest in preventing her from achieving stability.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

However, I again would like to point out that the dom in question has made it clear he only wants her when she's manic, not when she's normal. That for me is unforgiveable, that he has a vested interest in preventing her from achieving stability.

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ORIGINAL: texangael

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You roll your eyes. It's not just scientifically fatuous, it's making light of the situation.

You are wrong.
You would be wrong to roll your eyes.
You are wrong to dismiss someone's suggestions because they do not fit your narrow boundaries.