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computer question - 8/6/2010 3:55:30 AM

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First off, my pc is a piece of shit, so that may be the problem

However, I've recently been getting an occasional pop-up stating that I'm almost out of space on hard drive C. I went and removed a number of programs that I don't use, deleted a bunch of temp files, and the pc is running faster, but this morning, that message popped back up.

So, I went to "Computer Management", and it says that my C drive is "healthy", and that capacity is 55.88 GB, with 192 MB left.

I'm just tossing this out here, any thoughts?

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 4:06:35 AM

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Okay....

Went to System Restore, turned it off, which cleared the set points, and that put my space left on C from 192 MB to 1.6 GB.

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 4:13:25 AM

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I had the same problem this week... turned out one of my programs was saving a lot of data right inside the program's folder. You aren't using a VirtualBox for anything, are you?

When Firm was checking out my problem, he also mentioned a "bug" with ZoneAlarm that eats up boot drive space. If you're using that program, we can probably point you toward a solution there.

I don't know what version of Windows you have, but if you're running XP, you can click on "My Computer", then right click on your C: drive to select "Properties". On the Properties popup there will be a button in the area with the capacity graphic that says "Disk Cleanup". Disk Cleanup will help you to free up space, just don't forget to check out the additional ways listed on the second tab called "More Options"... specifically deleting old restore points.

Last but not least... if you haven't done it, empty your trash.

Edited to add:

I forgot... don't forget to defrag. Especially since you've deleted a lot of programs.

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 4:13:25 AM

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Well, one GB= 1024 MB. So your computer has been telling you that it is almost completely out of memory.

Dump a bunch of shit onto an external hard drive, or just delete it. Then your computer should run a lot faster.

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 4:28:22 AM

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Every suggestion I've got involves buying something. Short of getting a different, much better computer, you could get an external hard drive and move a chunk of your files onto it. Or you could buy a bigger hard drive, if you can install it or have a friend help you. I think a standard hard drive on a PC these days is like 160gb, isn't it?

If you aren't up for spending, then I'm with you. But if your comp's outdated anyway, by the time you spend any money on it, you might as well add a little and get an up-to-date system. If you haven't looked into it in a while, you may be surprised at how inexpensive an up-to-date, really decent computer is.

Upgrading your computer can be a genuine thrill! It's like you're no longer bicycling uphill.

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 4:34:55 AM

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Thanks for the help, Treasure, DD, and MadameMarque

I do need a new pc, so I'm loathe to buy anything for this one; I'm going to keep looking at dumping stuff, and see what that does.

Treasure, I DO use ZoneAlarm, so any help there...

Question: I have a fair number of iTunes music and vids on here, would that hog THAT much space?

Off to work.

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 4:38:38 AM

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Treasure, I DO use ZoneAlarm, so any help there...

Firm was up working into the wee hours of the morning this morning, but when he gets up, I'll see if I can't wheedle the info out of him.

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 4:41:59 AM

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Level dear heart, my advice, get a bigger hard drive, external or internal, and put some of that porn away for later. If you are dling any media files(music, movies, clips, pics) they take up a whole whack of space, Im on my third terabyte (Im a shameless hoarder of media files)
Empty your browser cache regularly, because that can fill up fast with all the media on web pages.
Treasure has a great point, with programe caches too, specially zone alarm and or antivirus stuff. It depends what you run on it as well.
Or get a buinch of DVDs and burn the files to them and then delete from your computer, but basically, I would seriously consider an external HD ..

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 4:46:05 AM

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Flash drives are fairly cheap, 4GB is around $15, move files that will free up space. Then go to http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner and download the cleaner. Make sure your passwords are known, then run the advanced cleaner. If you still have problems after this, sorry, you need more hard drive or more flash memory devices.

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 4:49:33 AM

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De nada, Homie...

I've had an old computer like yours. Compared to the new computers, old ones have shit for memory. So you've really got very little storage space. I took my old one, so long ago, to the geeks and they added more memory into it, and they also said my Norton antivirus was eating up a significant amount of space, so they took that off and gave me AVG free for it because they said it was free and used very little space. But anyway, all that only cost me like $35- and it gave my computer new life.

As mentioned, you can also defragment and compress. Also, you can burn things to disc and store them that way instead of on your hard drive, and you can upload photos to store on flickr, photbucket etc, so that they aren't taking up space on your hard drive. And songs can go on an iPod. An iPod nano can hold like, 2,000 songs.

Edit to address your interim post: video clips and movies take up shloads of space! Basically you need to dump that shit off of there, when dealing with a computer that has so little memory. Its not worth it, to have them clogging up your computer when you can just go get a 320 GB external hard drive to store them on, right now at Walmart for $60. No one stores movies on their computers anymore.

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 4:59:00 AM

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Just to add, AVG is great NORTON SUCKS DONKEY DICK
The Cleaner is excellent tooo:) as Mikat pointed out

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 5:09:35 AM

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Norton and MacAfee both suck ass. I LOVED my free version of AVG for a couple of years, but this year was besieged by backdoor spyware that completely hijacked my AVG. So I've been using Panda ever since. Its awesome! I'm not sure how much memory it takes up though, since I no longer have an issue with that.

Back on topic: The iPod nano that holds 2000 songs is an 8 GB, if memory serves. I've been shopping around. So you can see, a few songs don't take up much space- but after a while it does add up.

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 5:10:16 AM

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quote:

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Question: I have a fair number of iTunes music and vids on here, would that hog THAT much space?

Level, that's absolutely where it's at.

If you want to find out how much hard drive your media files are using, you can do this:

First, click on Start and bring up My Documents. When you've got the list of folders and files, there, right-click on the My Music folder, or whatever folder you want. Then, select Properties, and when the pop-up box appears, under the General tab, you'll see "Size on Disk." You can also do that for your entire My Documents folder, if you go up one level, so that it appears as a single folder, where you can right-click.

If you do the same thing on any drive, like (C:), or if you insert a disk, when you right click on the drive name, it'll show you a pie chart of how much space is used and free. Your pie's down to a little sliver, right now!

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 5:23:05 AM

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Flash drives are fairly cheap, 4GB is around $15, move files that will free up space. Then go to http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner and download the cleaner. Make sure your passwords are known, then run the advanced cleaner. If you still have problems after this, sorry, you need more hard drive or more flash memory devices.

The conventional wisdom among computer techs, these days (I'm not one, I just have occasion to seek out and read their advice), is not to use registry cleaners; they say they do more harm than good. So if you use CCleaner, I'd urge you to de-select registry cleaning.

Here's one example of some info on that: http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=30113

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 5:30:05 AM

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Tunes, video, and pictures are hogs. As said, "properties" will show you use. It's best to move these files to software, then periodically "clean" the hard drive. Everything downloaded has a ghost, CC erases that, and frees needed memory.

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 5:34:43 AM

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Agree no one should play with a registry editor if they dont know what they are doing
I made the mistake of using Uniblue once upon a time and it ate parts of my registry and hadnt saved the backup.
Ive used the Cleaner for years and I prefer to do my own registry tweaking, but I made many nasty mistakes along the way, so I certainly dont recommend it without some knowledge behind you. Back up, backup, backup:)

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 5:39:25 AM

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Notice the lack of replies in the thread linked. The cleaner I linked is safe for the casual user, not for business. I was replying to the OP question of a personal computer, not a personnel computer.

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 6:04:43 AM

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Holy crap that's a small amount of space. It means the house (hard drive) that stores EVERYTHING in your computer.. your programs, you pictures, your music, your tax programs, or if you use outlook, your mail storage, and even the Windows program itself, is very full. Basically it is showing you as a hoarder. When it gives you that message you need to start clearing off data otherwise it cannot work effectively. It would be like if your house was full of so much stuff it was all over the walls, the floor, the sofa, and you wanted to play pool somewhere in your home. That pool stick is not going to be given enough room to put a good spin on your ball if you keep hitting the pile of crap that is stacked up all over.

Remove old programs, move the data from your personal "my documents file" to a USB external storage device, like a WD Passport, OR burn that data, especially music and pictures, to CD's or DVD's, most people have those laying about.

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 6:12:26 AM

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Bad analogy, room in memory isn't confined like space in a den. Den space is confined by objects that take physical space, computer space isn't physical, it's mathematical, you can use ever inch (or byte).

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RE: computer question - 8/6/2010 6:49:32 AM

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quote:

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The conventional wisdom among computer techs, these days (I'm not one, I just have occasion to seek out and read their advice), is not to use registry cleaners; they say they do more harm than good. So if you use CCleaner, I'd urge you to de-select registry cleaning.

Here's one example of some info on that: http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=30113

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ORIGINAL: Mikat

Notice the lack of replies in the thread linked. The cleaner I linked is safe for the casual user, not for business. I was replying to the OP question of a personal computer, not a personnel computer.

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For what it's worth...

The recommendation is not against CCleaner, it's against registry cleaners - not to be confused with cleaning your computer in general or with registry analyzers.

Registry cleaning is only one of the functions CCleaner performs. So it is recommended that if using CCleaner, not to run the registry cleaner part of it.

And the reason there are no replies to the post at the link, is because it's a "read this first" sticky post at the head of a forum in which professional computer techs are helping individuals with malware removal on infected computers. It's posted by a tech who's previously been awarded a Most Valuable Professional award by Microsoft, with several years in Consumer Security, in a forum where professionals help people clean and secure their computers. But it's not the only place I've seen techs advising against registry cleaners.

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