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tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 7:43:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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Pitching his message to Oregon's environmentally-conscious voters, Obama called on the United States to "lead by example" on global warming, and develop new technologies at home which could be exported to developing countries.

"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.

"That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added.




This was in reference to global warming, not to the fat cats.




Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 7:49:07 AM)


Correct, out need to sacrifice for the common good. Spot on taz, youre getting it...

Way to go!




tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 7:49:59 AM)

Again, you are spinning




Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 7:57:38 AM)


Read the thread header taz, Obamas call for "sacrifice" is part of the topic.




tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:06:45 AM)

He wasnt preaching sacrifice, he was preaching common sense.

72 degrees has been the government norm for many years.

SUV's ARE gas hogs... Gas at the time of that comment made by Obama was 3.80 a gallon.

The speech was also given about global warming and lets face it, europeans are far more advanced in energy conservation than we are.

Bottom line....

Michelle took her daughter on vacation. She also took some friends and their daughters along. Big whoop. HAD they stayed home, they would not have added one more person to the employment rolls. HAD they stayed home, they would not have added one more dollar to the national coffers.

And i see you dodged the African Safari comment... totally expected.

Oh, and btw...

Obama wasnt President at the time of that speech.




Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:15:25 AM)


Point remains, we cant eat as much as we want or drive an SUV but the Obamas can fly in dedicated 747s  to Hawaii or Europe every other month, stay at the Ritz-Carlton in Spain for half a million dollars, and so on.

He's a hypocrite! May as well admit it.








tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:17:33 AM)

Nope, i dont see them as hypocrits when they pay their own costs of the trips. They are well off in their own rights. You dont have to like them.

And again, you avoid the safari.




Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:20:33 AM)


What safari?

And if he is going to preach to us about sacrifice he should be taking the first steps and leading by example, rather than this do as I say, not as I do BS..

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Nope, i dont see them as hypocrits when they pay their own costs of the trips. They are well off in their own rights. You dont have to like them.

And again, you avoid the safari.




AsmodaisSin -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:25:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

Do as I say; not as I do.  Do as I say; not as I do.  -Blinks a few times.-  Do as I say; not as I do.  Do as I say; not as I...wait a second.  That's bullshit.
Seriously, though.  The guy needs to either shut his mouth about how the rest of the world and Americans spend their money or stop spending so much.  If he weren't always talking down to people on how they spend their money, I don't think people like Sanity would get so pissed off.  Hypocrisy is part of being human, but it still pisses us off.

Well you obviously haven't been paying attention .Sanity has turned criticizing this particular President in to a cottage industry,as is his right....just like it's the right of the rest of us to point out the silliness in 99.9 % of what Sanity posts about.
288 posts and yet you still don't know the way the wind blows around here?


I have noticed this.  I have also noticed that a lot of the time, but some times, Sanity says something that makes sense to me. 




slvemike4u -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:30:30 AM)

Well in that case you have my condolences.[8|]




AsmodaisSin -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:31:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

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ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

his money, he can do what he wants.


-Rolls her eyes.-  I don't think anyone is denying this.  What a lot of us have a problem with is that, in one breath, he says bullshit about us spending too much money, telling Americans how to spend money, and then he and his wife drop a lot of money on other stuff.  If he wasn't sitting on a high horse and then feeding his wife and kids with silver spoons in the other, people would leave him alone. The hypocrisy is nauseating. 

Holy batshit Batman...the rich and powerful are different than us mere mortals.
Are you fucking kidding me?


-Blinks a few times.-  I think it's crappy, which is why people get upset.  Just explaining.




tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:34:09 AM)

lol.. what safari.

Here you are criticizing a presidency about vacations and you dont even know the topic you are criticizing.

And i dont see it as preaching about "sacrifice". Guess for someone like you, giving up an SUV to drive a more sensible car is a HUGE sacrifice. Turning the thermostats to 73 degrees must be so taxing for you.

First Ladies and their children are NOT elected officials. She wanted to go.. she went... took some friends... more power to her.

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Admittedly, Mrs Obama did take off for Spain aboard a presidential Boeing 757 and she can't go anywhere without a substantial, and expensive, Secret Service contingent. But rather than 40 companions along for the ride, it now appears she took two women friends from Chicago. They paid at least some money towards it.

The three women took four daughters; Sasha was among them, but Malia stayed in the US to attend summer camp.

As for choosing the Villa Padierna, part of the Ritz group, as her base, even that apparently wasn't Michelle's doing. Rather it was selected by the Secret Service for its ease of protection.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10665029&ref=rss





Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:39:26 AM)


If you have something to relate to us then post it, its craziness on your part to imagine that we can read your mind. What safari? You havent said yet in any kind of an intelligent manner what it is that youre ranting about.




tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:41:23 AM)

I stated it quite clearly before in a post to you. Perhaps you may want to read a bit more carefully. A former FL took her daughters on an african safari without hubby in tow and never once was a stink made.




AsmodaisSin -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:43:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Well in that case you have my condolences.[8|]


-Shrugs.-  Thanks, I think.  I just understand why people are so pissed off at Obama, and maybe they're right. 




Lucylastic -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:46:06 AM)

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tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:46:19 AM)

Yeah, i can understand when half truths and out right lies are reported against Obama, how people are upset. By the time the lies are revealed, no one listens.




tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:47:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3354330


~grins

Thanks Lucy!




AsmodaisSin -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:49:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Yeah, i can understand when half truths and out right lies are reported against Obama, how people are upset. By the time the lies are revealed, no one listens.


What lies?  When people watch him and his family jet setting all over the place, and they're told to make sacrifices on energy and everything else, they get pissed off at the hypocrisy.  It's not a lie to see, is it? 




tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/10/2010 8:51:58 AM)

This story started out with 40 friends.... turns out the total on the trip was 7. I can see how 40 would incite some anger... 7 not so much.

This story also started out with Michelle choosing one of the most expensive hotels. Turns out, she didnt chose it, the Secret Service did. Again, inciting anger at someone who didnt do the deed.

You dont consider these lies?




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