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mnottertail -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 7:12:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity How sweet of Michelle to spend two or three hundred thou taxpayer dollars to console a friend. Half a mil total, probably. Is there nothing that money cant buy? Especially when its other peoples money that youre spending... Such a sweet girl. Better than spending it fucking up and killing people in the country of Iraq.

Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 7:14:52 AM)
One more time: George and Bill and George and Ronald didnt preach sacrifice at Earth Day Mass. Didnt rail against fat cat bankers and auto execs, etc. Give sermons on spreading he wealth... quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Why is she any different from Laura or Hillary or Barbra or Nancy?

Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 7:16:56 AM)
Ah, but jelloman is spending it on wars as well. quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Better than spending it fucking up and killing people in the country of Iraq.

mnottertail -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 7:21:43 AM)
we are leaving that toilet. just in time for the midterms...we will see if that brings any wal-marters back in the fold, come november.

Owner59 -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 7:28:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity One more time: George and Bill and George and Ronald didnt preach sacrifice at Earth Day Mass. Didnt rail against fat cat bankers and auto execs, etc. Give sermons on spreading he wealth... quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Why is she any different from Laura or Hillary or Barbra or Nancy? Where did Obama say not to spend your own money? You`re just making shit up. And being a bully.

Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 7:31:39 AM)
Youve never heard Obamma preach about how we need to be sacrificing in the name of global warming? Seriously? You can crawl back under your rock now. quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Where did Obama say not to spend your own money? You`re just making shit up. And being a bully.

mnottertail -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 7:33:31 AM)
Just a bit more education for you, try to get you up to speed. That retort Tom, encompasses both a red herring, and a strawman fallacy.

Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 7:37:01 AM)
Ive linked to an example of it in the htread before, nopw youre being either willfully obtuse or you really are that obtuse. Theres always Google if you really would like to get clear on the issue...

mnottertail -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 7:38:52 AM)
Obamma preach about how we need to be sacrificing in the name of global warming Nope, nothing on google. Why do you disinform on such easily checked statements, can you seriously be that misinformed? I do get some links to religious sites as well as an offer to find low priced Obammas on nextag.......

Moonhead -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 7:58:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Youve never heard Obamma preach about how we need to be sacrificing in the name of global warming? That was Gore. You know, the lad who did that film?

Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 8:11:46 AM)
Most everyone on the left is kissing the global warming faithfuls asses, Obama included. Its amazing that could have escaped anyones notice. quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead That was Gore. You know, the lad who did that film?

mnottertail -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 8:14:48 AM)
Aha, so we once again find that this is an emotional issue for you, devoid of reason or logic, with no reality to back it, and it appears as though nearly all your issues are. As I said, the patently false statement is a classic red herring and a classic strawman. You've just confirmed it.

Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 8:22:08 AM)
You would deny your own mother a drink of water if you thought it would cast Obama in a better light

Owner59 -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 8:25:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Ive linked to an example of it in the htread before, nopw youre being either willfully obtuse or you really are that obtuse. Theres always Google if you really would like to get clear on the issue... Where did he say we shouldn`t spend our own money. Answer the question.

tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 8:25:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Youve never heard Obamma preach about how we need to be sacrificing in the name of global warming? Seriously? You can crawl back under your rock now. quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Where did Obama say not to spend your own money? You`re just making shit up. And being a bully. Bush never said we had to tighten our belts? "More than 140 federal programs could be eliminated or reduced according to a document the Office of Management and Budget released late last week. In the Major Savings and Reforms Volume and in President George W. Bush’s proposed FY 2007 budget, OMB listed 141 federal programs that are being proposed for termination or reduction. 'When President Bush gave me guidance on what the 2007 budget should look like, he directed me to focus on national priorities and tighten our belt elsewhere,” said OMB Director Joshua B. Bolten. “Congress substantially delivered on the President’s spending restraint goals last year, and after speaking with members at this week’s Congressional hearings, I’m optimistic we can again provide a significant level of savings for American taxpayers.'" http://www.thecre.com/ombpapers/2006/20060213_ombblurb.htm

mnottertail -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 8:34:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity You would deny your own mother a drink of water if you thought it would cast Obama in a better light Classic ad hominem. And my mother is dead sanity, congestive heart failure at a good old advanced age, and well hydrated. But you continue with your logic and reason, and staying on topic and teaching us all how to utterly fail at social discourse, you shining example, you.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 12:54:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Youve never heard Obamma preach about how we need to be sacrificing in the name of global warming? Seriously? You can crawl back under your rock now. quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Where did Obama say not to spend your own money? You`re just making shit up. And being a bully. Bush never said we had to tighten our belts? "More than 140 federal programs could be eliminated or reduced according to a document the Office of Management and Budget released late last week. In the Major Savings and Reforms Volume and in President George W. Bush’s proposed FY 2007 budget, OMB listed 141 federal programs that are being proposed for termination or reduction. 'When President Bush gave me guidance on what the 2007 budget should look like, he directed me to focus on national priorities and tighten our belt elsewhere,” said OMB Director Joshua B. Bolten. “Congress substantially delivered on the President’s spending restraint goals last year, and after speaking with members at this week’s Congressional hearings, I’m optimistic we can again provide a significant level of savings for American taxpayers.'" http://www.thecre.com/ombpapers/2006/20060213_ombblurb.htm There is a difference between preaching personal sacrifice and budget cuts.

joether -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 1:13:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity One more time: George and Bill and George and Ronald didnt preach sacrifice at Earth Day Mass. Didnt rail against fat cat bankers and auto execs, etc. Give sermons on spreading he wealth... quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Why is she any different from Laura or Hillary or Barbra or Nancy? Why should Ronald Reason, George Bush (Sr.) and George Bush (Jr.), talk about sacrifice? What did they really have to sacrifice in life (see the last question)? They were more then happy to sacrifice our troops in battle. Or have you forgotten the Iraq War 2003-2008? All these guys had weak domestic policies. They were happy to sacrific regular Americans without so much as a care in the world. The 'No Child Left Behind' Act, is 9/10ths a failure. It only contributed 1/11th the promise total of funds to schools across the country, but expected four times the results. Yeah, that law was 'based on reality'. How many times did Mr. Bush (Jr.) give press conferences to the press and the American people? Less then the number of fingers I have on one hand. How many 'signing statements' did he issue during those years? (hint: he holds the record by a VERY wide margin). That guy sacrificed as much on us Americans, as he did, keeping his campaign promises in 1999 while running for office. Finally, do you, Sanity, know how the Bush family made its millions?

mnottertail -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 1:49:48 PM)
All these guys had weak domestic policies. They were happy to sacrific regular Americans without so much as a care in the world. And that puts us where we are today.

Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/11/2010 4:26:15 PM)
Its not ad hominum or any of your psychobabble. The point is, you dont have any scruples. You know that the global warming freaks are all leftists (and vise-versa) but you deny it. Seems to me like you would deny anything or anybody to try to win an argument. quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Classic ad hominem. And my mother is dead sanity, congestive heart failure at a good old advanced age, and well hydrated. But you continue with your logic and reason, and staying on topic and teaching us all how to utterly fail at social discourse, you shining example, you.

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