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Owner59 -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 7:15:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Still more liberal hypocrisy.... Al Gore preaches "save the planet" and "global warming we're all gonna die, aaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!"  while buying the biggest mansions he can find.

And the Kennedys are no better.


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Al Gore....Kennedy's....  meh, horseshit apiece, eh? 


Yeah,you would throw the planet under the bus just because Gore spoke about climate change.


Talk about cutting off one`s nose to spite his face.

[:D]




Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 7:19:32 AM)


Nah, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about left wing hypocrites....

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Yeah,you would throw the planet under the bus just because Gore spoke about climate change.


Talk about cutting off one`s nose to spite his face.

[:D]




mnottertail -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 7:31:22 AM)

politicians of any sort of wing are pretty much by dint of their definitions as politicians; hypocrites.




domiguy -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 7:32:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I did that search.... first lady vacation... both with and without your name... nothing popped up.

I did a search on Bush vacation... 9 pages... nothing with your name, Domi.

Care to direct me on what nic you were using at the time?


domiguy vacation




Owner59 -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 7:34:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Nah, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about left wing hypocrites....

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Yeah,you would throw the planet under the bus just because Gore spoke about climate change.


Talk about cutting off one`s nose to spite his face.

[:D]


Oh yes you are.

You`d throw anything and anyone under the bus to suit you.Remember Sharrod?

You do it almost daily.




cloudboy -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 7:43:46 AM)


Hey Sanity, here's some news to cheer you up.

Things are still pretty much as you like them; if the Republicans regain power again -- the spread should widen even more. So, don't despair.




charlestonscmilk -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 7:55:23 AM)

From Ruth Marcus' column this morning:
If Michelle and Sasha had hung out at home, not one more American would have a job, not one-hundredth of a decimal point would be added to the gross domestic product. Yes, her travel required a government plane and Secret Service resources, but that would be true wherever she went. It was true when George W. Bush made 77 visits to his ranch in Crawford and spent all or part of 490 days there during his presidency, according to CBS News' Mark Knoller, official tallier of presidential downtime.

Writing in The New York Daily News, Andrea Tantaros said "Michelle Obama seems more like a modern-day Marie Antoinette... than an average mother of two." Tantaros acknowledged that "we all need downtime -- the First Family included," but added, "it's the extravagance of Michelle Obama's trip and glitzy destination contrasted with President Obama's demonization of the rich that smacks of hypocrisy and perpetuates a disconnect between the country and its leaders."

But the president's alleged "demonization" involves bashing Wall Street titans for simultaneously crashing the economy and drawing huge bonuses; it's not their wealth per se that he sees as a problem. And, let's be serious, Michelle Obama is not going to be staying in a Motel Six anytime soon.




Moonhead -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 8:09:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

politicians of any sort of wing are pretty much by dint of their definitions as politicians; hypocrites.

I think it's part of the job description.




Moonhead -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 8:13:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity
That one also focused on liberal hypocrisy, didnt it.

No, it mostly focussed on poops whining that Kerry has a big yacht. You should pay more attention.
Still, if we're talking hypocrisy, are you going to withdraw your assertion that there have not been any conservatives starting threads about evil rich people in this forum? Given that most of the complaints about Gore (including the ones you've just come out with yourself) have all been about him being rich, and being evil, you appear to have been talking out of your arse on that one.




EbonyWood -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 8:20:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


You still dont get it? I dont care about the wealth, so long as youre not telling me you feel that wealthy people are greedy and that you feel you need to cap what I can earn.

McCain and Palins claims about representing ordinary Americans is a red herring, I doubt the claims were even made the way you represent for one and for two they never attacked people for having wealth like Obama constantly does, so no (sorry) but theyre not comparable in any way.

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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

At numerous and various points of their campaigns McCain and Palin both claimed to be able to represent, understand, and govern for, the ordinary American. This was as blatantly hypocritical as what you claim the Obamas to be.
 
I applaud your new found disapproval of elitism, I share it, but be consistent.
 
You're going to be busy, our political system isn't exactly socioeconomically representative.



I don't ever want to get it. I believe in a completely different political system. This whole circus we suffer through would be redundant.
 
Of course their behavior is comparable. You don't have the impartiality to see it.

And yes since you raised it, plenty of wealthy people are greedy.




tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 2:43:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: domiguy


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I did that search.... first lady vacation... both with and without your name... nothing popped up.

I did a search on Bush vacation... 9 pages... nothing with your name, Domi.

Care to direct me on what nic you were using at the time?


domiguy vacation


Thank you. redid the search. 4 posts came up. Nothing about a first lady vacation.




Elisabella -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 3:37:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: charlestonscmilk

From Ruth Marcus' column this morning:
If Michelle and Sasha had hung out at home, not one more American would have a job, not one-hundredth of a decimal point would be added to the gross domestic product. Yes, her travel required a government plane and Secret Service resources, but that would be true wherever she went.



By "at home" is that supposed to mean in their bedroom or in the US?

It definitely would have helped the US economy if they'd vacationed within the US.




Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 3:40:26 PM)


Could be because its exceedingly odd that the first lady is off gallivanting across Europe, spending money like theres no tomorrow without the president - especially during his birthday.

Could be theyre having a lovers spat.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: domiguy


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I did that search.... first lady vacation... both with and without your name... nothing popped up.

I did a search on Bush vacation... 9 pages... nothing with your name, Domi.

Care to direct me on what nic you were using at the time?


domiguy vacation


Thank you. redid the search. 4 posts came up. Nothing about a first lady vacation.




tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 3:43:27 PM)

Did you forget about the complaints over their date night?




tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 3:44:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Could be because its exceedingly odd that the first lady is off gallivanting across Europe, spending money like theres no tomorrow without the president - especially during his birthday.

Could be theyre having a lovers spat.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: domiguy


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I did that search.... first lady vacation... both with and without your name... nothing popped up.

I did a search on Bush vacation... 9 pages... nothing with your name, Domi.

Care to direct me on what nic you were using at the time?


domiguy vacation


Thank you. redid the search. 4 posts came up. Nothing about a first lady vacation.



What does that have to do with my post?




Elisabella -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 3:55:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Did you forget about the complaints over their date night?


I don't remember reading anyone complaining about this actually.




tazzygirl -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 4:09:56 PM)

Asked about the cost of the trip, which Republicans have criticized as indulgent, coming just ahead of the expected announcement of GM's bankruptcy filing on Monday, Josh Earnest told pool reporter Dave Michaels of the Dallas Morning News, that he "didn't anticipate being able to provide a cost estimate tonight."

The Republican National Committee slammed the outing in an "RNC Research Piece": "As President Obama prepares to wing into Manhattan’s theater district on Air Force One to take in a Broadway show, GM is preparing to file bankruptcy and families across America continue to struggle to pay their bills. ... Have a great Saturday evening – even if you’re not jetting off somewhere at taxpayer expense. ... PUTTING ON A SHOW: Obamas Wing Into The City For An Evening Out While Another Iconic American Company Prepares For Bankruptcy."


The RNC's Gail Gitcho added: "If President Obama wants to go to the theater, isn’t the Presidential box at the Kennedy Center good enough?”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/23122.html

The White House is refusing to tell how much this little excursion with his wife cost the American people. Considering that last months joyride and Air Force One photo-op over the Statue of Liberty and Ground Zero cost us about $250,000 (or more), we can safely assume that this trip would cost at least that. All things considered.

Eat that taxpayer minions.


As an aside, I wish that Michelle’s stylist would suggest she not wear outfits that emphasize her hips. Just making a suggestion …

http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=4030

Even before the Obamas left Washington, the there-and-back trip drew criticism from Republicans. They questioned the president's decision to travel to New York for a night of entertainment during a recession and while automakers struggle to survive.

It was just a few months ago that auto executives were roundly criticized when they traveled to Washington for congressional hearings in pricey private planes.

The Republican National Committee issued a news release that chastised Obama for saying he understands American's troubles, but then hopping up to New York for "a night on the town."

Noting that General Motors is expected to file for Chapter 11 protection on Monday, the news release said: "Putting on a show: Obamas wing into the city for an evening out while another iconic American company prepares for bankruptcy."

In a statement read to the press, Obama said, "I am taking my wife to New York City because I promised her during the campaign that I would take her to a Broadway show after it was all finished."

If the Obamas wanted to catch a show closer to the White House, they had some choices in Washington: Tom Stoppard's "Arcadia" at the Folger Elizabethan Theatre; Valerie Harper in "Looped" at the Lincoln Theatre; "Rent," at the Warner Theatre; Noel Coward's "Design for Living" at the Shakespeare Theatre Company; or Stoppard's "Rock 'n' Roll" at the Studio Theatre.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/30/obamas-date-night-new-york-city-draws-criticism/

They spent money in the US and were still criticized. Seems no matter what they do, someone will complain.




EbonyWood -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 4:20:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Could be because its exceedingly odd that the first lady is off gallivanting across Europe, spending money like theres no tomorrow without the president - especially during his birthday.

Could be theyre having a lovers spat.



You get more pathetic with every post you make.
 
With this you've descended to your natural level of competence - gossip.




MissAsylum -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 4:45:17 PM)

ok bottom-lining the details of this post without putting in an opinion: the trip was funded by the presidental salary. The plane, security is required by law. Question of the day: why is this any of our business? Calling this person or that person a hypocrite aside- really- is this ANY of our business?




Sanity -> RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against "Fat Cat" Businessmen (8/9/2010 4:57:01 PM)


Define greedy. Would you say that taking several vacations per year, each costing hundreds of thousands of dollars, is greedy?

Or else, what does greedy mean to you exactly.  Is it only greedy when fat cat bankers do it? Is it only greedy when auto manufacturing executives do it? Do they have to have an R by their name for them to be greedy? Or can someone who slams rich people while living the life of a rich person be greedy too.

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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

I don't ever want to get it. I believe in a completely different political system. This whole circus we suffer through would be redundant.
 
Of course their behavior is comparable. You don't have the impartiality to see it.

And yes since you raised it, plenty of wealthy people are greedy.




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