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RE: --- - 8/16/2010 4:19:07 PM

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Even worse--HE MAKES THEM CLEAN THE FISH.

Is this a euphemism I've never come across for some depraved sexual act?

Because it sort of sounds like one.

Well, while I wouldn't put it PAST Jeff to think of something like that, I was speaking literally!!

Hib, who baits her own hook and hands the catch over to the chef, kthx!

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Communication with female Supremacists - 8/17/2010 10:31:40 AM

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Because I am a scientist- I believe in offering practical solutions to problems.

Hi Sam,

I was pretty amused by your statement. I, too am a scientist. However, my view of science is not offering practical, patronizing "solutions". Science is about gathering data and seeing if it fits with a theory, and adjusting the theory accordingly.

The problem with understanding the results of the dinner with the Domme is this: You aren't getting good data. You are, by your own admission, not sensitive to human communications. Yet you have a theory you refuse to relinquish.

Your theory is that the root problem of your bad date is that she is a female supremacist (and only that, evidently). Your proof is she self-identifies as one on her profile. So what? Perhaps she also self-identifies as weighing 135 pounds. Does that mean your date went bad because you can't communicate with women who weigh 135 pounds? No matter what BDSM name she calls herself, she is probably also a human and a woman. Even if she talks about BDSM during dinner.

You're making it too easy on yourself. Attributing your failure to nail her to not knowing the secrets to interacting with a "female supremacist" is foolish. You aren't learning anything about women and communications that way.

Your theory spares you from true self-examination. That's thinking in a vacuum, and that's not science.

January

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RE: Experience with female supremacists? - 8/17/2010 2:42:04 PM

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Sam ... I have been following along with this thread ... to the best of my ability ... and I must say .... I have had a wide variety of thoughts ...

So I will try to keep this simple ....

If you are trying to impress a Lady, then ....

Rule 1 ... be a gentleman ...

Rule 2 ... be a gentleman ...

Rule 3 ... When in doubt, be a gentleman ...

Now ... what is a gentleman?

I am going to insert a link to: Etiquette of a Gentleman from ASK.COM ... It covers the basics ....

Gentleman

Have you been dating much recently? Or were you just confused by the Lady referring to herself as a Female Supremacist?

The real truth is ... whether Domme, Female Dominant, Fem Dom, Female Supremacist, Switch, Submissive or Vanilla ...

Treat a Woman like a Lady .... and you can't go wrong!

Avoid references to sex, kink ... etc etc ...

If she wants to talk about it ... she will bring it up! If she is attracted ... she might take you home ....

You sound like you were tripping over your tongue on that date!

Don't worry ... I have done it once or twice myself ... we all do it ... the trick is to use the Etiquette of a Gentleman to identify and correct your mistakes.

That said ... AAkaska, VaguelyCurious, Lady Hibiscus and Lady Pact... among a host of others ... tried to tell you some important things.

Remember, they are Women ... <--- Important .. know the target market <

You want to focus on their desires ... and learn! Not challenge them.

And honestly ... even though I am a MAN ... I would be humiliated if someone tried to dissect a bad date with me here ...

So doing so is a Human Relations problem ... not a dating problem ... for this ... I suggest Dale Carnegie ....

Now Sam ... the Ladies were not making up a story ... about interacting with others here offline about PRIVATE ISSUES!

Frankly, there are four or five that post here whom I have discussed things with ... OFFLINE!

Yes I do have several phone numbers, direct email addresses etc. And I will NOT tell you who they are! NOR DO I BOTHER THEM UNNECESSARIALLY!

The point is I got to know them over weeks and months ... from posting my thoughts and feelings ... on other peoples threads ... it is a natural process ... and in time the interaction becomes more ... personal.

But you have to know enough to be CONFIDENTIAL and keep it to yourself! In other words ... BUILD TRUST! AND KEEP IT!

You do not appear to be doing it here ... so there is some advice ...

And as todays special .... I waive my standard ...

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RE: Experience with female supremacists? - 8/17/2010 3:00:23 PM

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And by the way ... that Lady you were asking about ...

She was telling you NO!

Pure and simple ...

Its tough ... but 1 in 10 will tell you directly ... appreciate the 1 ... accept the other 9 ... it is just the way it is.

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RE: Experience with female supremacists? - 8/17/2010 3:33:58 PM

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Hi January

Your definition of science is of course, correct. However, the Jan. 1, 2010 issue of Science has an interesting article by Peter Kareiva on p. 34 where he discusses the issues of communicating science to the public. All too often scientists are ignored. Check out the Politics and Religion forum if you think thats an exaggeration. Thus, it's incumbent upon scientists to communicate with non-scientists differently. One of the historical problems in scientists communication is the default statement often is "This topic needs more study." I'm a firm believer that scientists need to not only discuss issues such as climate change with the public, they need to be prepared to develop some solutions as well. Alternatively, the politicians and corporate interests that have gotten us into this mess will continue to dig us in deeper. So if I'm going to call attention to a problem, I'm also going to throw out some ideas for a solution if I can.

Concerning the rest of your post- the idea that her behavior was attributable to her identification as a female supremacist was indeed the proposed hypothesis. As this thread should have shown, that hypothesis does not fit the facts well and has been rejected.

Seeking owner- again, we clearly have a difference of opinion in terms of the issue of date dissection. As noted earlier, if someone decided to dissect a date with me in a similar fashion, but maintained my anonymity- I do not have the same issues as you as noted previously in this thread. Hence, my actions and viewpoint are not hypocritical, but they are different from yours and a number of the women who have posted. However, I appreciate the effort of your suggestions, and they do have merit.

Cheers,

Sam

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RE: --- - 8/17/2010 4:38:03 PM

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Even worse--HE MAKES THEM CLEAN THE FISH.

Is this a euphemism I've never come across for some depraved sexual act?

Because it sort of sounds like one.

Well, while I wouldn't put it PAST Jeff to think of something like that, I was speaking literally!!

Hib, who baits her own hook and hands the catch over to the chef, kthx!

Chef SO2 at Your service Lady Hib .... filets them there Steelhead, Salmon, Walleye, Perch and Pike right up ... cooks em to perfection and serves, too!

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RE: Experience with female supremacists? - 8/17/2010 10:40:01 PM

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Seeking owner- again, we clearly have a difference of opinion

You went on a date, with a Female Supremacist .... and got blown off like the wind.

You got advice ... from a number of well known, and respected, Female Dominants .... as well as others.

Just what do you think your opinion is worth?

Apparently, it IS YOUR OPINION ... that is the problem!

If this Woman really was a Female Supremacist ... SHE DID NOT WANT YOUR OPINION, YOUR DESIRES, OR YOUR INTERESTS!

SHE WANTED you ... to SERVE HER!

Learn and grow from this .... or move on to Fet Life ... the choice is yours!

Cause you have gotten feed back from some of the finest Dommes in THE WORLD!

And you ignored them all ... with your opinion ...

No wonder .. you got blown off!

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RE: Experience with female supremacists? - 8/18/2010 5:13:52 PM

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So, in sum, Samboct, If you want to learn how not to have a recurrence of such an incident, learn how to be a proper gentleman at all times, learn how to be introspective and thereby understand how to see a situation objectively, and take on board the true implications of female supremacy.

I'd also add one small point: just don't arrange to meet up with any more fruitcake women again.

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RE: Experience with female supremacists? - 8/18/2010 7:00:46 PM

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So, in sum, Samboct, If you want to learn how not to have a recurrence of such an incident, learn how to be a proper gentleman at all times, learn how to be introspective and thereby understand how to see a situation objectively, and take on board the true implications of female supremacy.

Peon you're being sadistic! Asking an extroverted person to learn how to be introspective - that's pure torture.