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Elisabella -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 7:22:35 AM)

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If God exists, he obviously couldn't give a damn about any individual person- OR he's an inhumane bastard to the point of not caring for humanity. Yes, maybe he does sit back and judge and wait. If so, there's nothing to thank him for. Or any reason to 'love' him.


Check out the Old Testament sometime, Jehovah is one of those capricious old school gods.



Moonhead -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 7:32:24 AM)

Violent mood swings, you mean?



Sanity -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 8:27:54 AM)


AUDIO - Rep. Pelosi calls for investigation of WTC mosque opposition

Its nice that leftists have discovered freedom of religion, but it would be even nicer if they could wrap their arms around my right to disagree with them about certain things.




Musicmystery -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 8:32:38 AM)

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Its nice that leftists have discovered freedom of religion


How do you figure this is something new?



tazzygirl -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 9:06:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Ah so you believe god should step in and take away all the horrors of this world.


Yes.

If I were God I certainly would do just that.

Wouldn't you?



No i wouldnt, especially when free will is involved. Personally, no one appreciates what is readily available or what isnt worked hard for.



tazzygirl -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 9:08:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
who has the right to tell the other what to believe or not to believe?

Everyone, that's what the Constitution guarantees.



Remember that the next time a christian states you should be saved or they wish to tell you about god. They are merely following their constitutional rights.



GotSteel -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 10:10:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Remember that the next time a christian states you should be saved or they wish to tell you about god. They are merely following their constitutional rights.

They absolutely are within their Constitutional rights and I strongly advocate that we need to keep those rights for everyone whether they are a Christian proselytizing, a Muslim promoting Sharia law, an Atheist explaining that your beliefs are unjustified or someone fed up telling the rest of us to fuck off.



Musicmystery -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 10:24:41 AM)

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Remember that the next time a christian states you should be saved or they wish to tell you about god. They are merely following their constitutional rights.


???

And he in saying "No thanks."

I don't see the point.



GotSteel -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 10:34:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I am SO glad you rarely agree with me, in fact if you ever do, please don't be tempted to post in support of my ideas...deal?

I may be wrong about this but I think she was agreeing with me on this one. On account of the post being a reply to me and all.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I get that you do not think much of what I have to say about religious tolerance...

Actually, I consider your position on tolerance as I understand it to be laudable and important in your line of work. I'd just like you to stick to it instead of having an exemption clause.



juliaoceania -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 10:46:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I wonder at people who need to belittle others beliefs in comparison to their own. It says to me that they are not firm enough in their own ideas so they have to negate the way other people think...

Just an opinion

Or maybe they just fed up with having the beliefs of those other people shoved in their face all the time.



There is only one group on this thread that is being pushy about their belief system, and it isn't theists...




juliaoceania -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 10:49:22 AM)

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Check out the Old Testament sometime, Jehovah is one of those capricious old school gods.


I have not had my coffee.... when I first read that I thought it said "Old Guard Gods"... it made me chuckle



subrob1967 -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 11:18:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Maybe the words of the Imam himself?



That blog gave a lot of quotes, which in particular did you find to be offensive to families of WTC victims?


I'd say his conclusion says it best
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Abdul Rauf uses stealth strategies that make it difficult to detect their Shariah driven agenda and while under the guise of interfaith dialogue and building bridges in what they say in English. In Arabic the statements are clear—the bridge is to build Shariah.


If you want to believe this Imam has nothing but peaceful intent by wanting to build his center, nothing I say can change your mind.



mnottertail -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 11:47:38 AM)

Shoebat, ex-PLO terrorist, now defender of the state of Israel, who's conclusions, do not equate to the Imams own words, and are equally as suspect as any others motives.

Salaam Alikum

Abdul Abar Abar Bar Har



subrob1967 -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 12:14:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Shoebat, ex-PLO terrorist, now defender of the state of Israel, who's conclusions, do not equate to the Imams own words, and are equally as suspect as any others motives.

Salaam Alikum

Abdul Abar Abar Bar Har


Of course, we all know that such a fine upstanding Imam wouldn't possibly lie about his motives...What was I thinking?[8|]



mnottertail -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 12:24:04 PM)

Shoebat is not an Imam.  And such a fine upstanding self-professed PLO terroist may be somewhat suspect as well, eh? 



dcnovice -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 12:30:02 PM)

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Of course, we all know that such a fine upstanding Imam wouldn't possibly lie about his motives...What was I thinking?


What do you see as the imam's motives, Rob?



Jeffff -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 12:30:10 PM)

Yassir, you are correct.



Politesub53 -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 12:41:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


AUDIO - Rep. Pelosi calls for investigation of WTC mosque opposition

Its nice that leftists have discovered freedom of religion, but it would be even nicer if they could wrap their arms around my right to disagree with them about certain things.




Dont you even read your own links ?  Pelosi is clear about investigating the funding to BOTH sides.

From YOUR link "“I support the statement made by the Interfaith Alliance that ‘We agree with the ADL that there is a need for transparency about who is funding the effort to build this Islamic center.  At the same time, we should also ask who is funding the attacks against the construction of the center.’"



subrob1967 -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 1:35:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Of course, we all know that such a fine upstanding Imam wouldn't possibly lie about his motives...What was I thinking?


What do you see as the imam's motives, Rob?


A strategic planning site for future terror attacks, a foot in the door to start lobbying for Sharia, and in general fundie Muslims having a trophy Mosque in which to piss on their enemies.



Vendaval -> RE: Obama Makes Clear His Support for Mosque in near 9/11 (8/18/2010 1:38:35 PM)

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