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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/17/2010 10:53:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have no issues talking about the roots of what shapes us as human beings, the childhood and teen years are part of our development. When the topic is centered around what makes us tick and when did it start, I see no issue in talking about this topic. Human sexuality in general does not magical spring forward when somebody turns 18.

I've not been following the threads up in BDSM general discussion for awhile, however things do get talked about and shared from time to time.

Seriously, anybody with kids also is faced with child development, be it the food they eat, movies they watch, habits, interests and yes even that dreaded word sex. Now, there are many aspects of BDSM that are none sexual in nature too. These none sexual aspects get talked about from time to time.

Unless I'm missing something, people don't engage making posts in a manner that supports nor advocates pedophilia on here. That would be clearly against TOS.

There are topics that are centered around how people get their freak on, while having kids in the house. Seriously, this kind of topic is not outta line either. Some people have families and that's a part or slice of life. Again, nothing to do with pedophilia.

Now seriously, kids will show various traits and tendancies towards things. Again, there is a lot to human sexuality that occurs and develops before the legal age of consent. People talking about this, again does not advocate pedophilia. In fact, it's rather sane and in touch with reality. This kind of stuff is also talked about in college classes, It's part of psychology (human nature) and is part of Human Development over all.

Some people find some topics very touchy, and want to stick their head into the ground or live in the Dark Ages where certain things are not talked about. Pretending something does not exist or not talking about it, does not change the facts nor make it magically go poof away.

Again, all this has nothing to do with advocating nor supporting pedphilia. If these kinds of topics disturb a person on a personal level, perhaps it's they should explore the reasons why reality is so disturbing.

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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/17/2010 4:32:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		femoslave has valid concerns, how do any of you know where paedophiles lurk. They are the worst of the worst and any encouragement they get whether on collarme or elsewhere be it known or unknown, if we can we should try to stop it.

It also should not be trivilised, it is a serious problem that we all should be wary of.

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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/17/2010 7:47:37 PM   
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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/17/2010 7:54:08 PM   
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femoslave has valid concerns, how do any of you know where paedophiles lurk. They are the worst of the worst and any encouragement they get whether on collarme or elsewhere be it known or unknown, if we can we should try to stop it.

It also should not be trivilised, it is a serious problem that we all should be wary of.


you would assume its within a realm of possible thought that someone into pedophila would look for it on an adult BDSM site?

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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 1:33:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Its more the opportunist underage sex offender that would worry me. Pedophiles are very specific in their needs and much more likely to make up false profiles on sites such as facebook.
A while ago I was in a chat room when the discussion came up about 'what brought you into the BDSM world?' All went well until one woman started to talk about getting spanked as a child and how she secretly enjoyed it. A few men became very obviously excited and wanted details and she happily gave them. After observing that conversation, there were three things that really bothered me, 1. that this woman was happy to titillate strangers by turning her childhood discipline into something sexual, 2. The amount of men that were getting highly aroused by this and 3. That the op couldn't see anything wrong in this sort of discussion.
The way to look at it is this, on any online dating site we don't know who it is we are encouraging. There is very likely some people on here that are into both BDSM and young girls/boys and those people may specifically hunt some naive one parent families with young sons or daughters.
Personally I hate it when someone writes something about their young son or daughter being sub or dom. I just think its ridiculous and I want to shake those people and say, 'your kids are just innocents so stop trying to relate them into your sexual adult world.
I see no problem in writing about ones own childhood but we should still be doing that with caution. I always think 'be careful who you titillate' Only a small minority of visitors to CM write to these boards. The majority (thousands of them) just read and take in what is written.

I think the mods are pretty good on here at monitoring the boards. I recently reported a profile that had pictures of her young children on it and it was very quickly removed.

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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 4:31:27 AM   
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What mob?  There are a whole twelve replies at this point.


lol yes you guys are right theres only 12 posters not a big thread.
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Pardon the hijack but enquiring minds have become interested.....

Sooooo, exactly how many or what minimum constitutes a mob?

Yep, slow night here - hell, I even posted is 'Ask a Mistress'....

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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 4:35:07 AM   
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Please, everyone, it seems as though there has been quite a few threads about when we started fantasizing etc and it is as children, The problem I have is that this is a public forum and any sicko (namely paedophiles) can read these threads.
I'm a Mum, whether or not my child shows any tendancies towards being subby, Dominant, straight, I want to keep to myself, I dont think that we should be bringing up discussions about underage here....even if it is about our own past.
If some of you disagree, so be it


Wow. Grow up, and realize that the two concepts (youth and BDSM) co-exist in this world, and at times even in the same mind. If yours is too narrow to allow discussion of these topics, just opt out. There's nothing forcing you to participate, and no harm is being caused to anyone, except apparently you.


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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 4:40:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you think anything being talked about around here hasn't already crossed a pedophile's mind, you're extremely naive.
If they want to get their jollies, I doubt they'll need the unwankable material found in these threads. Besides, does that mean all the material found online that could be abused has to be censored? Isn't that pretty much everything?


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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 5:08:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: havinfun181

femoslave has valid concerns, how do any of you know where paedophiles lurk. They are the worst of the worst and any encouragement they get whether on collarme or elsewhere be it known or unknown, if we can we should try to stop it.

It also should not be trivilised, it is a serious problem that we all should be wary of.


and quite frankly at times they are right in your neighbourhood in front of your eyes and people still don't see them...quite frankly its pathetic to believe they would need any "encouragement" from here.

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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 5:18:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Focus50


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What mob?  There are a whole twelve replies at this point.


lol yes you guys are right theres only 12 posters not a big thread.
:)


Pardon the hijack but enquiring minds have become interested.....

Sooooo, exactly how many or what minimum constitutes a mob?
Focus.



And I always thought a mob is to clean the floor....gosh I never stop learning here

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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 6:41:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nope - they'd be what dirties the floor....

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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 10:47:35 AM   
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I have no problem with personal stories about how one got started in BDSM. If a pedophile is reading them to get off, they probably also read the news reports about children being molested - like some people with a rape fetish read news articles about rapes.

While it can be disturbing to think about, we can't censor everything for fear someone might be getting off on it. IMHO, you protect your children better by monitering their Internet use and teaching them how to protect themselves than worrying about the possiblity of someone getting off on what adults are talking.

Frankly, I'd rather have them getting off on something an adult says anyway. If they are reading this instead of looking for underage porn, I'm ok with that. At least me sharing my childhood stories doesn't exploit any children, unless you want to say that it somehow exploits my childhood.

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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 11:15:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		i think its the responsibility of parents to educate their kids about the dangers of strangers but also about life. Unfortunately this is not happening. Kids are coming out of school, i only heard one say on the news today, live to the Irish nation, that it would be the worst thing if she was stuck in a job she hated for thirty years. Wonderful if she gets that luxury.  Many folk would give their right hand for that eventuality right now. i think the real problem with kids today is that they were spoiled too much, not their fault, their parents responsibility and hence they appreciate nothing short of getting everything they want.  What parents should remember is that if their child turns up his or her nose at a job, there are ten others lining up waiting to take it from them.  No one who hates their job deserves to keep that job.  It fosters a bad atmosphere in the office and inevitably that reluctant worker will be a drag  on everybody else. Kids should be brimming with enthusiasm at the prospect of doing any job within their capabilities of course. Just because a job is boring or uninteresting doesnt mean a kid should give less than their best doing it.  And furthermore what job isnt boring. Every job is boring and routine after a while, what do these kids expect. They and their parents have a lot to learn. Hopefully the eventuality never comes to pass that a kid is "stuck" with a job they dont like. Hopefully they are removed from the position before they cause even more disharmony if they show no interest in their work.  The biggest injustic is an apathetic worker who keeps their salary and their job and the many others who would give their right hand for that job but cant get it because the disinterested worker has been mollycoddled by the employer to such an extent that they have nothing to fear.  The bottom line is there is no room for apathy in our economies, if we are to regain our former economic prosperity, we need to weed out the apathetic and give jobs to people who have a passion to succeed. Hopefully this wont happen and that the kids by the time they apply for jobs will have the common sense to know that they are privileged and thus apply themselves to their work
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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 12:36:45 PM   
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If they want to get their jollies, I doubt they'll need the unwankable material found in these threads.


Witty,

Part of the reason the threads are "unwankable" is that objectionable pedo material is reported and removed. You don't read the bad stuff because certain posters and mods care enough to do something about it.

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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 12:41:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: January

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If they want to get their jollies, I doubt they'll need the unwankable material found in these threads.


Witty,

Part of the reason the threads are "unwankable" is that objectionable pedo material is reported and removed. You don't read the bad stuff because certain posters and mods care enough to do something about it.

January

"Pedo material" does need to be removed, so that's good to hear. I thought the OP was complaining about what's left after the "pedo material" isn't being taken into consideration. Stuff like "did you start having submissive thoughts when you were young" and so forth. I was stating that I don't see anything objectionable to legit discussions that have some crossover between the topics of "youth" and "sexuality". Obviously there's a gray area there, but banning anything with any relation to youth from this website is an offensive level of censorship in my opinion. Obviously the site has to comply with laws and I'm not disputing that at all.


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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 12:47:22 PM   
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Got it! Thanks for the clarification...

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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 12:54:48 PM   
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Pardon the hijack but enquiring minds have become interested.....

Sooooo, exactly how many or what minimum constitutes a mob?

Yep, slow night here - hell, I even posted is 'Ask a Mistress'....

Focus.

For a thread, I'd have to say a large majority of the number of posters on the site responding at the particular time, with an overwhelming anger/threat type of response.  Twelve people might cut it during a face to face interaction, but not nearly enough to constitute a mob on the internet.


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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 2:03:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50
Pardon the hijack but enquiring minds have become interested.....

Sooooo, exactly how many or what minimum constitutes a mob?

Yep, slow night here - hell, I even posted is 'Ask a Mistress'....

Focus.

For a thread, I'd have to say a large majority of the number of posters on the site responding at the particular time, with an overwhelming anger/threat type of response.  Twelve people might cut it during a face to face interaction, but not nearly enough to constitute a mob on the internet.


Lol, I love the cultural differences, esp when most Americans seem unaware there are different cultures to their own.

"Mob" is a part of Oz slang, which is what prompted me to hijack. Any gathering of two or more people invariably gets referred to as "that mob over there".

But ok, I'd think "mob" was probably more synonamous with organised crime in the US, hence the stigma toward the name...?

Focus.

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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 2:20:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Focus, I do have to say that I haven't (until this point) heard the term "mob" as to refer to two or more people.  I'm more familiar with it as a term which is used to describe a group.  Somewhere on the same level that "a few" (three or more) would be different than "a couple" (in terms of numbers meaning two).  Kind of funny when you think about it, since there was only the originator of the post and the next reply agreeing on the matter when I read the reaction terming it as 'the mob'.

There are actually quite a few definitions.  The one you pointed out is amongst them, though I don't generally think "crime syndicate" on first reaction.  Here's one that might make you chuckle.  A "mob" can also refer to a 'mobile' computer generated enemy in a game, such as World of Warcraft.


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RE: Please, stop talking about children and bdsm - 8/18/2010 2:26:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm kinda in agreement with the OP because talking about people as minors or their examining their minor children and holding behaviors to an adult model bugs me. On a core, emotional level, I can't stand to hear this kinda stuff at play parties; unfortunately, it happens frequently. On an intellectual level, knowing that the same processes of understanding consequences and consent simply don't exist in young children make it a pretty hard thing to hear or read sometimes. It's why I generally steer myself away from those kinds of conversations.

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