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BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 12:10:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess
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s I recall her brain function always kicked in when she needed it.

haha.. i don't ever remember kelly kickin in..
i liked the dog best..
I remember her kicking a guy in the balls and walking out of the car when he was trying to take her and do something she wasn't willing/ready to do. 
I can't believe I'm talking about this show I only saw a few times, and thought was stupid, lol.  [sm=ofcourse.gif]  M



MsVoyeringmama -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 5:31:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

It becomes frustrating dealing with countless males on this site who after My spending time and effort getting to really know them, turn out to be unready for a long-term, committed relationship, or are not as they represented themselves.. and what they are really looking for  is someone to play with them, the way they they like it, when they feel like being played with... nothing more.  

At a local level, I have not asked for anything but sincerity, honesty, and effort... and all have fallen short..  I can understand how many Dommes who have experienced this frustration, would wish to require a more tangible way for a sub to show they have actual interest in making a connection..  If a male is required to 'tribute', he will only do so with those who he actually has intentions or interest in progressing with.  Without tribute he can easily troll from Domme to Domme and pretend to be sincere with each one.

I have been told  on more than one occassion, "you seem so real, most Dommes here require money to talk to them").  Well, to Me... this translates into  'wow, I finally found a free one'.  


I SO agree with this, and that is EXACTLY why in my profile I state at the very end, I made a prodomme site.
With this said, when they do go to my site they are met with this:
While I am not a full time Pro-Domme, It is Not my main source of income, I have had lovely gentleman visit me who appreciated that I am not a spanking mill, get them in & get them out & move on to the next. I take the time to talk to my clients, I want to know them, I don't ask identifying questions like where do you work, or how much do you make? I don't care. What I care about is what is this person going through in his life, how can I be of help, what are his goals in seeking me out. 
 
You have a sincere desire to serve and please, you are willing to offer domestic and personal service. You are honest and open about your feelings.   You are secure in yourself and your maleness, eager to serve. Your limits will be respected, but pushed consensually.
You are unattached (consideration given to attached males willing to have me meet their primary partner),  and have come to terms with your "baggage".
 
I am NOT a full time ProDomme, but tokens of appreciation are Always  appropriate. Tributes may be monetary or we may discuss substitutions.. even if it is a homemade toy, that I can use on you. OR bring some groceries, fill my car up with gas,
 
I am in need of the following: THIS APPLY’S ONLY TO PRO DOMME services: ATTENTION- Married's- Wanna be's -Wankers- Players.  HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO PAY FOR PLAY !!

hence in my profile, I ask this as well:
 
It would be advisable to be good at
something and be able to demonstrate
a set skill/s - Everyone is good at
something, make your abilities stand out:
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Do you clean or can you contribute
to organizing my household?

Can you cook a good breakfast, lunch
or dinner for Me and your brothers?

Are you great at giving back/feet or
full body massages? Which I  seek daily.

Once we get a home, for our large
family - Can you fix up the yard or
make veggie garden?

Can you build a new bondage toys that
are useful? Or maybe build the home
we all will share?
 
To me these are just as important tributes equal to money..
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



darq -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 5:52:43 AM)

You can be a professional domina without doing it full time. You can be a professional domina and then in your private life you can be a lifestyle domina. And you can do both of them without ever becoming a prostitute.



EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 8:38:07 AM)

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You can be a professional domina without doing it full time. You can be a professional domina and then in your private life you can be a lifestyle domina. And you can do both of them without ever becoming a prostitute.


not trying to start shit.. but why does it seem like you're changing your tune now?





darq -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 9:10:40 AM)

I'm not changing my tune. I've always held that view point.

I still hold the view point that when you mix your professional life with your personal life, you're basically giving in and becoming a prostitute. Read carefully ...

Many lifestyle dominas will have one sort of relationship with their submissives or slaves that they feel affection for. They don't get tributes from them, for one thing, The occasional gift may be given but I think we've all gotten our heads around the idea that a gift and a tribute are completely different things.

That same domina may also run a very sucsessful business as a professional domina. She gets paid for the time she spends with her clients, she follows a strict code of conduct and doesnt have sex with them or get naked for them. Often times she'll work in a dungeon, in a controlled environment.

She doesn't mix business with pleasure. She may do this full time or she may do it part time. Either way, she is still both a professional domina and lifestyle domina. Why is this so hard to grasp?

I know several lifestyle submissives who work part time (or full time) as professional dominas. They're not switches ... The domina aspect is a job. Its someting they do to earn money and they are rather skilled at it. I have one friend who draws in an average of $10,000 a month by doing this.

I know you're not a stupid individual, EFG, so please don't play dumb or try to make it look like I'm saying anything that I havent already said at one point or another. When a man pays for sex with money, toys, tributes or whatever, its prostitution. That is not the same as professional domina collecting fees for her time nor is it the same as a lifestyle domina accepting a gift from her submissive/slave.

I'm done with this thread now because the longer it continues, the more we run in circles.



stef -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 9:14:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: darq

I'm done with this thread now because the longer it continues, the more we run in circles.


And the angels wept.

~stef



KarbonCopy -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 9:24:19 AM)

lol. I cant belive these threads go on and on, but some of the good qualtity threads just die after 3 or 4 posts.        



Summarizer -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 10:19:01 AM)

Thread Summarized:

Hookers - *Stomping up and down* "We are not hookers! We take your cash for sex services but honest we are not hookers!"

Johns - *Stomping up and down* "We are not Johns! We spend our cash for sex services but honest we are not Johns"

Reality - "Uh, yes you are."



TexasMaam -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 10:20:46 AM)

Identity summarized:

"Summarizer" Narcissist who can read a thread and edit to 50 words or less. Read my Posts! Read my Posts! Read my Posts!

goof.

TM



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 12:57:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam
Identity summarized:
"Summarizer" Narcissist who can read a thread and edit to 50 words or less. Read my Posts! Read my Posts! Read my Posts!

goof.
TM
Beautifully summarized TexasMaam. [sm=banana.gif]  M



unpantsed -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 1:18:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

Finding this lifestyle just under a year ago, I find it kind of sad to learn that many in a community of people who are already considered to be deviants of mainstream society (meaning all of us) are putting labels on what the right and wrong kind of bdsm is.    


I don't know that anybody's trying to label anything as "right" or "wrong" here. Certainly I wasn't. I think people are more interested in properly identifying something as what it is, and not what fanciful and often defensive assertions try to pretend it is.

I don't know that anybody here has said that charging a "tribute" (which is a fee if it's required) is "wrong." I think what people are saying (and I know I was) is that it's ridiculous to maintain that a person charging you money for the pleasure of their company is interested more in you than the money. Or even you at all without the money.

The "deviance" of a lifestyle doesn't magically suspend the laws of gravity or thermodynamics, or change the definitions of words and concepts, or the meaning of things like friendship and attachment. Dommes and subs are just as subject to those realities as anybody else. Down doesn't mysteriously become up just because you like to get spanked.

I certainly don't see anything wrong with professional domination. As I said, I've been on the receiving end of it quite a few times and I often found it enjoyable and worthwhile. But to try to maintain that it's a "personal relationship" (at least the part that's paid for) is imho absurd. And pretending that it is may well prove emotionally hurtful to people if they're not aware or won't admit they're pretending.

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The deadhorse is completely pulverized by now...  and stilll ignorance lives...


Denial is willful ignorance. And that can be the most devastating kind of all. No matter how "deviant" the denier.



OnyxGoddess -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 9:00:36 PM)

why do we have the need to CATEGORIZE this that and the third?  if we all enjoy what we do who gives two shits what anyone else's problem with that is?  If a dumbass wants to pay to play whatever games he wants to play then why not?  Go for it.  Do the damn thing.  Enjoy it. Have a nice day. Everyone else that wasnt there SHADDUP all damn ready.
 
Oh...and if we all recall...AL financially dominated over Peg and in several shows he SEXUALLY dominated over her as well.  In addition, Kelly did have some brains.  I  think toward the end of the series they really started to kick in and she was less of a dipshit.



michaelGA2 -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 9:05:52 PM)

i wonder what the ratio of Pros are compared to use normal folks here on CM...i think CM is becoming a Pro site and it makes it more difficult to weed through the ads to find someone serious about finding their match. Too many people looking for a financial support here.



WeeIttyBitty -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 9:09:28 PM)

You havent been on Alt.com have you?

I dont think there are too many pros here, or even if they are, so what? If they're reading the forums and being involved in the discussions they're part of the community, they're lifestylers, not just some imposter/stripper with a riding crop...



michaelGA2 -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 9:13:57 PM)

i have but, due to the cost of senting and reveiving messages, i don't go there much anymore. that's really not the point though, shouldn't a "free" site remain "free" instead of having to cater to those who leach off of others to make a living?



OnyxGoddess -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 9:22:33 PM)

um...the site is free.  you dont have to pay to contact people like on ALT.com.  And if the parties agree how is it LEECHING?  it's not.  It's an agreement.  I highly doubt anyone is getting rich or quitting  their day jobs based on the prospects they found on this website.  That's absurd.  Furthermore, what does it matter to you or any of us if someone gave something to get what they wanted? We ALL pay to play in some form or another...get over it.  NEXT.



michaelGA2 -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 9:27:43 PM)

i could reply to this in force, but it has been my experience here that, when one expresses themsleves too much on this subject, they tend to get trampled and left for dead. so i shall digress for the good of the many...even if i don't agree with this portion of the lifestyle.



TexasMaam -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 9:36:08 PM)

isn't he just a total retard? lololol

One of these days, BlkTallFullfig, you and I are gonna go have lunch... ; )

TexasMaam



Reasonable -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 10:07:38 PM)

Even when I made my own toys-leather cost a fortune-and I was CHEAP.  Besides,all of the diapers you need to keep these sniveling babies in, run up to major bucks-it's that ,or pay for steam cleaning the carpets!



unpantsed -> RE: Tributes... (4/29/2006 10:14:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OnyxGoddess

why do we have the need to CATEGORIZE this that and the third?


It's due to a human tendency called "communication," facilitated by a human invention called "language," which helps human beings to understand what the hell they're saying to each other. (Though only occasionally, alas...)

This way, when people "categorize" their relationship by saying "We're happily married," folks can have at least some approximate idea of what they mean, and not assume they're two people who have never met and have no idea of who each other is.

And so that when somebody tells you "I like you" or "I love you" or "I care about you" or "You're special to me," you can be fairly confident that the next words out of their mouth won't be: "So you wanna talk to me? That'll be $25 up front in cash."

Categorization isn't a value judgment. It's just a convenient shorthand tool to help people know what they're talking about with somebody else, so that every conversation you have in life isn't like the first conversation, with every single word needing to be defined.



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