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EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 7:33:50 PM)

darq
quote:

I'd rather drive a bug, knowing that I'm confident enough in myself that I don't need a penis envy car like a jag to prove something to the rest of the world. But thats just me ... Also, I'd never compare myself to a car ... I'm so much more than the phsyical.


yes dear






darq -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 7:57:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slimsub25

quote:

ORIGINAL: goddessdevi

I prefer the term "financial appreciation". 
if a sub wants free sex he can get it pretty much anywhere. I can get a burger cheap but if I want a perfect steak I gotta put out a little extra.



'financial appreciation'
'tribute'

what i cant understand is why u r so afraid to use the word 'prostitute'.  im not sayin that as a bad thing, just curious as to why all of u without exception will use any words u can think up, but not that one.

if i had sex for money id say i was a prostitute and shout it from the mountains.

dont u just know they will write back with some catty remarks or other words to describe what they do rather than just say 'i have sex for money so yes.  i am a prostitute' 


OK, if there's actual sex or nudity involved ... Then yes, I'd have to say it was prostitution ...

But any serious professional domina (and I'm not talking about the ones who just like to say they're pros ... I mean the real deal, ladies and gentlemen) will not have sex with her clients. Its unprofessional ... No sex, no relationships.

"Tributed sessions" and the like do not make you a professional domina or even a semi pro as some of you seem to like being called. I'm not sure what it makes you ... Cheap comes to mind. But to each their own ... Obviously there's a market out there willing to pay you, cheap or not.

Slimsub, I understand where you're coming from but please understand that the great majority of professional dominas are way more classy than some of the women you've met here on this forum. They take their profession seriously and follow a certain code of conduct with every client. Most importantly, they are NOT prostitutes ... No more than an exotic dancer is a prostitute.

I do get irked when I see certain individuals try to claim to be something they're not just to make themselves look important. It sickens me even more when I see someone talk about submissives paying for sex and calling that professional domination. Thats utter bullshit. Call it what it is and be proud of it. If you can't be proud of it then maybe you shouldn't be doing it.

With that said, there is a kink known as financial domination. There are some men (and women) who enjoy being used for their money. If you're looking to dominate people like that, I suggest signing up with a group like Nite Flirt. They have special category just for that sort of thing. But please, don't bring it here ... CM specifically prohibits such behavior on their site and while they do not patrol it nearly as well they might, at least they're making some sort of effort.

Too bad more people don't respect the rules. But I guess the rules don't apply to them ...




MadamShy -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 8:00:47 PM)

well said sweetheart BRAVO!




darq -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 8:02:59 PM)

*blush*

Thank you. I was afraid it had come across as a rant ...




MichMasochist -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 8:51:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: darq

quote:

ORIGINAL: slimsub25

quote:

ORIGINAL: goddessdevi

I prefer the term "financial appreciation". 
if a sub wants free sex he can get it pretty much anywhere. I can get a burger cheap but if I want a perfect steak I gotta put out a little extra.



'financial appreciation'
'tribute'

what i cant understand is why u r so afraid to use the word 'prostitute'.  im not sayin that as a bad thing, just curious as to why all of u without exception will use any words u can think up, but not that one.

if i had sex for money id say i was a prostitute and shout it from the mountains.

dont u just know they will write back with some catty remarks or other words to describe what they do rather than just say 'i have sex for money so yes.  i am a prostitute' 


OK, if there's actual sex or nudity involved ... Then yes, I'd have to say it was prostitution ...

But any serious professional domina (and I'm not talking about the ones who just like to say they're pros ... I mean the real deal, ladies and gentlemen) will not have sex with her clients. Its unprofessional ... No sex, no relationships.

"Tributed sessions" and the like do not make you a professional domina or even a semi pro as some of you seem to like being called. I'm not sure what it makes you ... Cheap comes to mind. But to each their own ... Obviously there's a market out there willing to pay you, cheap or not.

Slimsub, I understand where you're coming from but please understand that the great majority of professional dominas are way more classy than some of the women you've met here on this forum. They take their profession seriously and follow a certain code of conduct with every client. Most importantly, they are NOT prostitutes ... No more than an exotic dancer is a prostitute.

I do get irked when I see certain individuals try to claim to be something they're not just to make themselves look important. It sickens me even more when I see someone talk about submissives paying for sex and calling that professional domination. Thats utter bullshit. Call it what it is and be proud of it. If you can't be proud of it then maybe you shouldn't be doing it.

With that said, there is a kink known as financial domination. There are some men (and women) who enjoy being used for their money. If you're looking to dominate people like that, I suggest signing up with a group like Nite Flirt. They have special category just for that sort of thing. But please, don't bring it here ... CM specifically prohibits such behavior on their site and while they do not patrol it nearly as well they might, at least they're making some sort of effort.

Too bad more people don't respect the rules. But I guess the rules don't apply to them ...



Ah darq did you blow it on this one. I like and have agreed with several of your posts in the past. But this time I must disagree.

Based on personal experience with a couple of pro dommes who have a very sizable dungeon and a large amount of toys. As well as having been in bussiness for a long time. I can truethfully contridict you and say that some professional dommes will offer an extended menu to select long time customers who do tribute them including tipping.

I've posted in other threads that I have worked as bartender in a strip club for two years. While not all exotic dancers prostitute or date a customer, or engage in unlawfull contact during a lap dance. But some most definately do. On numerous occasions my boss, at the time, got a phone call from a person who got herself busted, asking to be bailed out. The ladies do get fined for breaking the house rules. While the club I worked at the ladies were legally defined as comercial tenets, repeated or serious offenses would get her dismissed. Excuse me, the lady would elect to pursue alternative employment options. The typical pricing is definately on the high end to bed a stripper by the way.

I do agree that there is a lot of bullshit here. The Al Bundy type, do me slaves. Let's not forget the otherside of the coin. I want masters and the Peg Bundy dommes who stuff themselves with bonbons, and park themselves on the couch, seeking only no strings service slaves just so they won't hafta do the chores themselves, and most likely haven't been done in a month or two. While the internet is a very poor dating tool I have meet some wonderful, insightful, and intelligent people. Have also meet some jaded lonely and frustrate individuals as well.

I too get irked when I read certain individuals try to claim to be something they're not just to make themselves look important.

As for the rules well, "These rules were made for breaking and that is what I'll do. One of these day I'll break these rules in two."

Boy I haven't ranted in a few days, feel a little better. Now if only I had a woman who would beat me with a cat, face sit me, and make me eat her kitty for several hours. Oh well, I'll settle for my girlfriend who will let me dine on her kitty.

Mich




AAkasha -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 9:02:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MichMasochist



I do agree that there is a lot of bullshit here. The Al Bundy type, do me slaves. Let's not forget the otherside of the coin. I want masters and the Peg Bundy dommes who stuff themselves with bonbons, and park themselves on the couch, seeking only no strings service slaves just so they won't hafta do the chores themselves, and most likely haven't been done in a month or two. While the internet is a very poor dating tool I have meet some wonderful, insightful, and intelligent people. Have also meet some jaded lonely and frustrate individuals as well.

I too get irked when I read certain individuals try to claim to be something they're not just to make themselves look important.

As for the rules well, "These rules were made for breaking and that is what I'll do. One of these day I'll break these rules in two."

Boy I haven't ranted in a few days, feel a little better. Now if only I had a woman who would beat me with a cat, face sit me, and make me eat her kitty for several hours. Oh well, I'll settle for my girlfriend who will let me dine on her kitty.

Mich



So these "Peg Bundy" types who eat bon bons and park themselves on the couch, and all the other "users" that are femdoms -- how on earth do they stay in "business" or keep getting what they want to keep at it? Obviously sub men who are chumps and continue to fall for it.  The chumps need to wise up and stop supporting the "market" for these fakes, users, bon-bon eaters, whatever you want to call them. Because based on supply and demand there must be a TON of loser guys who are either too dense to see through it or are too desperate to care.  It baffles my mind that this "scam" market is so huge, and that sub men do not walk away from it, OR only get duped ONCE.

The legitimate pro femdoms certainly don't support the "peg bundies" as they give them a bad name, and the lifestyle femdoms don't support them because they make sub men sour and suspicious.  But what do you expect us to do, fight your battles?  The answer is for sub men to stop being desperate chumps and use your brain, not your dick/wallet when it comes to finding a femdom.  With all the information available on the net, and with resources like this, it is amazing that men continue to get suckered and scammed.

Of course, it's all the fault of the femdoms.

Akasha






BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 9:04:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MichMasochist
I want masters and the Peg Bundy dommes who stuff themselves with bonbons, and park themselves on the couch, seeking only no strings service slaves just so they won't hafta do the chores themselves, and most likely haven't been done in a month or two. While the internet is a very poor dating tool I have meet some wonderful, insightful, and intelligent people. Have also meet some jaded lonely and frustrate individuals as well.

I too get irked when I read certain individuals try to claim to be something they're not just to make themselves look important.
Mich
You know I don't recall Peggy ever asking for a Bon bon out of the frigde, but you certainly seem to have been impacted by peg bundy and her style as a woman.  I wonder if she suffered from bulimia because she wasn't big enough to have been as inactive and greedy as you say and remain her size.   M




EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 9:21:00 PM)

i find it odd mami the males in the *ask a master* forum.. that SAY they won't turn down a tribute aren't being vilified like tribute/gift accepting dommes are.

hmm. fodder for thought.

even the one that initiated the thread didn't challenge the male doms that said they DO not have a problem with accepting tributes/gifts- yet we're all this or that whore this or that.

hmmm.. methinks i sense a discrepancy.. i just won't comment on that thread because i'm not a master.

still find it amusing.

we're whores because we accept the same things that the males ALSO wouldn't mind taking.

amusing.

i think openminded said it best..








WeeIttyBitty -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 9:34:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess

i find it odd mami the males in the *ask a master* forum.. that SAY they won't turn down a tribute aren't being vilified like tribute/gift accepting dommes are.

hmm. fodder for thought.

even the one that initiated the thread didn't challenge the male doms that said they DO not have a problem with accepting tributes/gifts- yet we're all this or that whore this or that.

hmmm.. methinks i sense a discrepancy.. i just won't comment on that thread because i'm not a master.

still find it amusing.

we're whores because we accept the same things that the males ALSO wouldn't mind taking.

amusing.

i think openminded said it best..



The same is true in the vanila world, she's a slut, he's a man about town or "playboy" perhaps. (although I havent really heard anyone called that)

A lot of women have gotten into a lot of trouble doing the things that boys do. (historicly)




Reasonable -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 9:43:41 PM)

Some double standards benefit you,some us.

It's screwed up, either way.




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 9:47:40 PM)

I know babes...
You will also note that women are the ones spewing the most hateful venom toward those women who make their rules and live by them.   Men have always done it, and those same girls will fall at his feet and say take everything that I am/have, but when a woman does it, even while being completely honest about her wants/needs/desires, she is a dirty thing, as opposed to somoene to be sought/respected and revered (like their male counterparts).
I don't ask for tribute/anything from a man.  I also won't have him in my life unless he treats me in a way that I feel is kind and respectful to me as a woman he wants/needs.   M




EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 9:49:20 PM)

i  think the same thing holds.. women that have sex are sluts.. or many sex partners.

the men that do it.. are studs.

same thing.

it's ok for the males to say that they wouldn't mind a gift.

but we're prostitutes?

misogyny at it's zenith

[sm=ugh.gif]






EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 9:51:30 PM)

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I don't ask for tribute/anything from a man. I also won't have him in my life unless he treats me in a way that I feel is kind and respectful to me as a woman he wants/needs
\

yup yup.






MistressLorelei -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 9:58:56 PM)

Personally, I love being a Woman, and will gladly give men the double standards they end up with....  I am thankful when the double standard mentality causes the male to grab the check before I see it; I don't want a door closed in My face; I certainly don't want to mess with the garbage; I like being able to cry in a sad movie without feeling people will think I am a 'sissy'.  Women may not get quite the wages we are entitled to yet... but we have Motherhood, sexy shoes,  pretty panties (though those look good on a male as well); we smell good, we know how to shop, and best of all... we think with the right head.

These are My views and were only meant to offend those without a sense of humor.





BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 10:07:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei
Personally, I love being a Woman, and will gladly give men the double standards they end up with....  I am thankful when the double standard mentality causes the male to grab the check before I see it; I don't want a door closed in My face; I certainly don't want to mess with the garbage; I like being able to cry in a sad movie without feeling people will think I am a 'sissy'.  Women may not get quite the wages we are entitled to yet... but we have Motherhood, sexy shoes,  pretty panties (though those look good on a male as well); we smell good, we know how to shop, and best of all... we think with the right head.

These are My views and were only meant to offend those without a sense of humor.

<-----Stands and says good for you MistressLorelei [sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif] 
for having a great sense of humor and indeed dominating on her terms.   M




darq -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 10:44:24 PM)

Just what is wrong with the Bundys anyway? Ya'll target them a lot but you have to admit, they did produce a really hot (if perhaps slightly brainless) daughter ...




darq -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 10:46:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MichMasochist


quote:

ORIGINAL: darq

quote:

ORIGINAL: slimsub25

quote:

ORIGINAL: goddessdevi

I prefer the term "financial appreciation". 
if a sub wants free sex he can get it pretty much anywhere. I can get a burger cheap but if I want a perfect steak I gotta put out a little extra.



'financial appreciation'
'tribute'

what i cant understand is why u r so afraid to use the word 'prostitute'.  im not sayin that as a bad thing, just curious as to why all of u without exception will use any words u can think up, but not that one.

if i had sex for money id say i was a prostitute and shout it from the mountains.

dont u just know they will write back with some catty remarks or other words to describe what they do rather than just say 'i have sex for money so yes.  i am a prostitute' 


OK, if there's actual sex or nudity involved ... Then yes, I'd have to say it was prostitution ...

But any serious professional domina (and I'm not talking about the ones who just like to say they're pros ... I mean the real deal, ladies and gentlemen) will not have sex with her clients. Its unprofessional ... No sex, no relationships.

"Tributed sessions" and the like do not make you a professional domina or even a semi pro as some of you seem to like being called. I'm not sure what it makes you ... Cheap comes to mind. But to each their own ... Obviously there's a market out there willing to pay you, cheap or not.

Slimsub, I understand where you're coming from but please understand that the great majority of professional dominas are way more classy than some of the women you've met here on this forum. They take their profession seriously and follow a certain code of conduct with every client. Most importantly, they are NOT prostitutes ... No more than an exotic dancer is a prostitute.

I do get irked when I see certain individuals try to claim to be something they're not just to make themselves look important. It sickens me even more when I see someone talk about submissives paying for sex and calling that professional domination. Thats utter bullshit. Call it what it is and be proud of it. If you can't be proud of it then maybe you shouldn't be doing it.

With that said, there is a kink known as financial domination. There are some men (and women) who enjoy being used for their money. If you're looking to dominate people like that, I suggest signing up with a group like Nite Flirt. They have special category just for that sort of thing. But please, don't bring it here ... CM specifically prohibits such behavior on their site and while they do not patrol it nearly as well they might, at least they're making some sort of effort.

Too bad more people don't respect the rules. But I guess the rules don't apply to them ...



Ah darq did you blow it on this one. I like and have agreed with several of your posts in the past. But this time I must disagree.

Based on personal experience with a couple of pro dommes who have a very sizable dungeon and a large amount of toys. As well as having been in bussiness for a long time. I can truethfully contridict you and say that some professional dommes will offer an extended menu to select long time customers who do tribute them including tipping.

I've posted in other threads that I have worked as bartender in a strip club for two years. While not all exotic dancers prostitute or date a customer, or engage in unlawfull contact during a lap dance. But some most definately do. On numerous occasions my boss, at the time, got a phone call from a person who got herself busted, asking to be bailed out. The ladies do get fined for breaking the house rules. While the club I worked at the ladies were legally defined as comercial tenets, repeated or serious offenses would get her dismissed. Excuse me, the lady would elect to pursue alternative employment options. The typical pricing is definately on the high end to bed a stripper by the way.

I do agree that there is a lot of bullshit here. The Al Bundy type, do me slaves. Let's not forget the otherside of the coin. I want masters and the Peg Bundy dommes who stuff themselves with bonbons, and park themselves on the couch, seeking only no strings service slaves just so they won't hafta do the chores themselves, and most likely haven't been done in a month or two. While the internet is a very poor dating tool I have meet some wonderful, insightful, and intelligent people. Have also meet some jaded lonely and frustrate individuals as well.

I too get irked when I read certain individuals try to claim to be something they're not just to make themselves look important.

As for the rules well, "These rules were made for breaking and that is what I'll do. One of these day I'll break these rules in two."

Boy I haven't ranted in a few days, feel a little better. Now if only I had a woman who would beat me with a cat, face sit me, and make me eat her kitty for several hours. Oh well, I'll settle for my girlfriend who will let me dine on her kitty.

Mich



I'm not so naive as to think that strippers don't sometimes offer sex ... But once they do offer sex, that makes them prostitutes. The same goes for pro dominas that offer sex. I'm sorry ... Money for sex is prostitution. If you can't handle that, then don't do it. But please don't do it and then try to call it something else. Once you cross that line ... Its crossed.




EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 10:47:25 PM)

have you seen the chivalry post in general?

similar.

and i think the replies are really good..




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 11:10:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: darq
Just what is wrong with the Bundys anyway? Ya'll target them a lot but you have to admit, they did produce a really hot (if perhaps slightly brainless) daughter ..
That daughter wasn't brainless at all.  She just played the part to get what she wanted.   As I recall her brain function always kicked in when she needed it.   M




EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: Tributes... (4/28/2006 11:48:03 PM)

quote:

s I recall her brain function always kicked in when she needed it.


haha.. i don't ever remember kelly kickin in..

i liked the dog best..




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