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Lyku -> RE: Tributes... (4/25/2006 12:09:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Every other job in society has gone the way of politcal correctness except for professional domination. Garbage collectors are Masters of Sanitation . Housewives are Domestic Engineers. All we need are some new labels.

How about:

Sado-masochistic Service Provider
Temporary Authority Transfer Specialist
Illusionary Fulfillment Designer


Yup, all we need is to get a little PC, bring some vanilla to our kink!

::chuckles::

Celeste



::Slaps his forehead.:: Well...it's an interesting idea at least.  Any more titles you want to suggest?

Wes



MistressLorelei -> RE: Tributes... (4/25/2006 12:23:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slimsub25

he kicked ur arses.  its about time someone said all this about women like u.


This is a message board... he made a bunch of racket that is non-founded and a matter of opinion, insisting it's  fact and then ran away till he comes back as someone new and spouts the same nonsense.  
 
I don't require tribute to speak to someone, yet can understand that it can be right for many...  If you don't want to tribute and you view a Domme who does as a whore.... then don't tribute and save the name calling  for the playground.



MistressLina -> RE: Tributes... (4/25/2006 12:35:43 PM)

My two cents on this subject:
As a professional in any field, one gets paid a certain fee. If someone trains, and becomes a professional Dom/me or sub, then they should be able to collect a fee. The reason many call it a tribute, in my experience, is due to the jealous and hateful nature of humankind, which chooses to view women with sexual control over men as whores. No Pro I have ever met has engaged in sexual activity with a paying client, however due to cases filed against other Pro's, calling it a fee can land one in court, regardless if the charges are unfounded. It only takes one person to wreck a Pro's business, and it's often due to the low self-esteem of oneself .
Sad that some people let their own fears blind their judgement, but thats the way the cookie crumbles.
Thats my public service announcment for the day.



BitaTruble -> RE: Tributes... (4/25/2006 1:10:38 PM)

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::Slaps his forehead.:: Well...it's an interesting idea at least.  Any more titles you want to suggest?

Wes



Sorry, only three to a customer. I'm a pro satirist. You get a taste, then have to pay to feed your addiction.

Celeste



DiannaVesta -> RE: Tributes... (4/25/2006 1:12:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TeeGO

Jasmyn, I've said it before and I'll say it again.  You are a true Goddess.

Whore = A person in touch with their own humanity and sexuality and is free from bondage.  (The bad kind of bondage, guilt, frustration, and shame, that kind of bondage.)

Also, when a Goddess wishes to strikethrough anything, who's to stop her.



 Teego I agree with you darling! She certainly is.

Everyone we have beat this tribute, predomination, whore, money damn thing to death! It’s the same words drumming over and over.


  To each his/her own. That always ends up being the conclusion or some idiot with an attitude and blinders on flames people like crazy. Ignorance breeds insanity. Any sane person would beat a dead dog.



MsMacComb -> RE: Tributes... (4/25/2006 1:43:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta
Any sane person would beat a dead dog.
 

I would submit only an insane person would beat a dead dog.



DiannaVesta -> RE: Tributes... (4/25/2006 2:26:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MsMacComb

quote:

ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta
Any sane person would beat a dead dog.
 

I would submit only an insane person would beat a dead dog.



lol- sorry I'm just tired. I did mean that BTW. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.



EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: Tributes... (4/25/2006 3:49:30 PM)

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(Oh. And sit up straight, EFG, you're slouching. [;)] )


hey!..lol i am sitting up straight.. i went to catholic school. i think the ghosts of my old nuns are still hanging over me. plus i corset train.. wearing one right now.. so if i slouch.. i think i may snap in half.

i'm reading the responses and taking them all in.. but i'd rather spend the energy  on like scratching my ass or something  that WOULD have been used for responding ..

i saw several good threads from people. no need to name names.. you know who you are.

now, if i could only clone myself, like the only TWO hateful emails i received today implied, then she'd kill herself and  we'd be one idiot down!..

god i need to clone myself so she makes good on her promise. [sm=crop.gif]





WeeIttyBitty -> RE: Tributes... (4/25/2006 5:16:28 PM)

 I dont mind if she asks for a tribute. Pro dom or not. Its only fair, after all she's invested herself in your little fantasy, so why shouldnt she get something for the efforts?

Pro doms are probably the only way a lot of men will experience BDSM, if you havent noticed, there is a shortage of perv girls. You probably heard of "supply & demand"? (check a local gas station to see a more dramatic example of the law in action) 

If y'all all dont think domms should ask for a tribute, dont provide one, and stay home.



tasha_tart -> RE: Tributes... (4/26/2006 10:28:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WeeIttyBitty

If y'all all dont think domms should ask for a tribute, dont provide one, and stay home.


Pretty much sums it up.
 
Tasha



slimsub25 -> RE: Tributes... (4/26/2006 3:02:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

quote:

ORIGINAL: slimsub25

he kicked ur arses.  its about time someone said all this about women like u.


This is a message board... he made a bunch of racket that is non-founded and a matter of opinion, insisting it's  fact and then ran away till he comes back as someone new and spouts the same nonsense.  

I don't require tribute to speak to someone, yet can understand that it can be right for many...  If you don't want to tribute and you view a Domme who does as a whore.... then don't tribute and save the name calling  for the playground.


lol and if u dont like being called a whore lorelei dont have sex for profit and take ur own advice



WeeIttyBitty -> RE: Tributes... (4/26/2006 3:20:44 PM)

Lets look at this realistically for a moment...

So you're saying that a sub, should have the domina provide all the 'toys' and equipment, playspace  out of the goodness of her heart without compensation? Or contribution?

Most people have not won the lottery, and simply cannot afford to do that.



GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Tributes... (4/26/2006 3:40:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slimsub25

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

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ORIGINAL: slimsub25

he kicked ur arses.  its about time someone said all this about women like u.


This is a message board... he made a bunch of racket that is non-founded and a matter of opinion, insisting it's  fact and then ran away till he comes back as someone new and spouts the same nonsense.  

I don't require tribute to speak to someone, yet can understand that it can be right for many...  If you don't want to tribute and you view a Domme who does as a whore.... then don't tribute and save the name calling  for the playground.


lol and if u dont like being called a whore lorelei dont have sex for profit and take ur own advice


Wow! 
*Blinks eyes, shakes head, rubs eyes, takes one more look*
Did I miss something?  I never saw Lorelei saying she has sex for money, or dominates for money, or even demands tribute!
You are quite the charmer, slimsub25.
Oh, and lest I forget My manners, I do wish to warmly welcome you to the "Ask A Mistress" forum. 



EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: Tributes... (4/26/2006 3:43:05 PM)

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So you're saying that a sub, should have the domina provide all the 'toys' and equipment, playspace out of the goodness of her heart without compensation? Or contribution?


nice to see a sub that doesn't view contribution to our toy collection as being greedy or a pro domme.. if we train people, i think it's only fair to help with the toys.



crouchingtigress -> RE: Tributes... (4/26/2006 4:08:46 PM)

Bless your heart EBG, the amount of times that you stated and restated this issue boggles my mind, I gave up 3 pages ago.
 
You are are 100% right slaves that are moved to divest themselves of all power , naturally and easily give up their money to thier owner, however that is 1001 miles away from a domina that demands or even asks nicely, for tribute to meet for coffee.



quote:

ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess

TeeGO

i can definitely appreciate your difference between D/s and SM. we most certainly operate differently.

but i also was refering to men that feel accepting gifts of ANY kind is wrong.. even if a LTR.. i remember where you said you you have no problem gifting if it's under the context of a LTR.  there are many that will argue with you that if you gift your long term mistress.. and she accepts the gifts.. that makes her a whore or a pro domme because she should be doing it because she likes it. as if your sincere heartfelt guilt negates her sincerity in training you.

do you agree?

i didn't say you'd pay for sex from a pro domme, you missed the point. i'm saying some will expect sex, but hold traditional gifts off limits. no where did i say you'd pay a pro domme for sex.. so now you're putting words in my mouth. i used that as an example of how men will still want sex, still be in an LTR with their mistress and STILL feel that gifts will cheapen it. and no where did i say that was you.

let's chalk that up to ill communication. but with that being said, it has been argued here that relationships, even long term ones,  if a womans accept gifts then she's a prostitute, whore, or pro domme.

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Generosity/adoration/desire to please and tribute are two very different things.


that's the same thing that me and several other dommes have been saying all along. but even gifts and lifestyle dommes and pro domme tributes or anyone that accept gifts all got lumped into the pro domme box.. THAT'S what i'm saying is the problem.

gifting someone you serve because you adore them.. that's what we've been saying all along.. how is that making someone a pro domme because she receives gifts that are not demanded?

but guys hear gift, tribute (which are often misused and substituted for one another).. then suddenly everyone that accepts gifts is a whore..

we're arguing two sides of the same coin.



also, of course we're talking about money and power.. it's a tributing thread dear..






slimsub25 -> RE: Tributes... (4/26/2006 4:16:00 PM)

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if we train people, i think it's only fair to help with the toys

i would have thought if u loved what u did u would already have the toys and wouldnt need anyone to buy them for u.  if my boyfriend told me i had to buy him a whip id tell him where to go!

anyway sorry if i offended anyone (but i still dont believe any of ur excuses for these so-called tributes)

i think ur just out to see what u can get for free and u use the word tribute because it makes it easier on urselves.

just my thoughts.



WeeIttyBitty -> RE: Tributes... (4/26/2006 5:22:37 PM)

Sure you would and can. Sub women are just as rare as the Dom kind. Its your rarity that gives you economic power.





EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: Tributes... (4/26/2006 5:23:11 PM)

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would have thought if u loved what u did u would already have the toys


yes.. i have heavy rubber play SM gear.. and guess who bought it?

my slaves.

we are into heavy rubber and  S/M.. so we  love our toys.. hell yeah i'm not gonna pay for the toys i use on my boys.. why SHOULD i? it's not goin up my ass.. or whatever.. yeah.. they gotta help out. that electro strappie isnt' going up MY ass.. why should i pay for thor's electro strappie? when it's ONLY going to be used on him?

hell, i'm not charging my personal slaves for my time, but i do expect  boys to contribute to the fight. (fight meaning toys and gear.. yeah.. i gotta clarify shit because people take ANYTHING you say the wrong way.. ).. i'm not  debasing your  intellectual skills.. just saying some folks dont *feel me*.

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anyway sorry if i offended anyone (but i still dont believe any of ur excuses for these so-called tributes
]

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i think ur just out to see what u can get for free.


wrong.. i feel it's our right  to get toys to feed ALL of our fetishes.. sorry.. i'm not willling to  foot the bill for our fetishes or toys.. ESPECIALLY to my personal slaves. all of my slaves are personal except for one.. and one day he will be..  why should i pay for our rubber.. (on my own) or buy toys that i wont EVER feel.. if i'm not charging.?

guess what.. men  approach us WANT to do the gifting they do because they  know they are getting a stellar experience.. tributed or not.. gifted or not. and they dont mind helping us have killer toys. or gear.. or full rubber that we love.

i felt what you said toMistressLorelei was off base with you saying she's exchanging XYZ for whatever and that she's and whore-ish.. i dont know her but i'll say this.... seroiusly. i've read her threads. and NOTHING she said implicated sex for money on this thread or anything other thread.. you're off base. sorry.

i can respect folks that dont agree with the way we live our lives.

but seriously.. to say someone is trading sex for toys or money in response to MistressLorelei  is off base.

i didnt take personal offense to it. i just see the discrepancy.

off topic:
dammit WHERE are my profile pics??

FUCK! i hate being faceless.

ok sorta off topic. but regardless..

ok rant ended for now..

you may have offeneded some.. you won't offend the ones that think like me.

if i have all the gear.. all the rubber... a dungeon we can play at (which isnt my OWN dungeon, but we're working on my own playspace).. and i provide my slaves and myself with a way to exercise our fetsihes.. why SHOULDN'T they help us get new toys? fuck. all of my slaves want new toys.. and so do i.. if they come to me and say.. hey i found a new toy. why shouldn't i take it? i want a new to or some new rubber gear too!

if i give my time and training then  it's only fair slaves help contribute to our toys, space etc we dont DEMAND it.. but it's sure nice when someone recognizes that we give them the same experience they'd have to pay for with a fulltime pro domme.

and i'm not speaking from a semi pro stance.. i'm speaking from a lifestyle domme stance that DOES accept gifts of toys from  my males. i speak to the male that initiated this thread.. and like he said. i only have problems with chicks that DEMAND tribute before a system of conduct has been established.

when they try to send me money. (and some do on their own will).. yeah. i'd rather have toys or something that can make BOTH of  our experiences more creative and fun.

i'm personally enjoying my new double vacbed with gas mask attachment and  breathing tubes.

i get into it with my slaves so we can be sealed in rubber together.

but i don't see why i should turn away a new cool toy JUST because *gifts cheap out* the relationship.

honestly.. and i'm not starting shit.. you were way off with the things you said to MistressLorelei.

not cool

take it how you want.

ps.. WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY PROFILE PICS>. dammit this shit is annoying me..

and no, i'm not asking you. where my profile pics went.. just interjecting a random rant.

excuse me

*edit*.. yay my pics are back up. ok. continue.. !!



slimsub25 -> RE: Tributes... (4/27/2006 1:19:30 AM)

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why should i pay for thor's electro strappie? when it's ONLY going to be used on him?


u shouldn't!  he should buy it and if its only going to be used on him, IT SHOULD BE HIS PROPERTY NOT URS. 

WHY DO U NEED IT IF AS U CLAIM IT WOULD ONLY BE USED ON HIM?


quote:


i'm not  debasing your  intellectual skills.. just saying some folks dont *feel me*.

oh i feel u.  i feel u would stay here til 2050 making excuses u cant defend.  u just keep on and on trying to make excuses as to why people buy u things

but u know.  and i know.

the real reason is nothing to do with contributing to a scene.

it's so u can get something for free and use it on any other slave too.



MsMacComb -> RE: Tributes... (4/27/2006 1:30:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slimsub25

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why should i pay for thor's electro strappie? when it's ONLY going to be used on him?


u shouldn't!  he should buy it and if its only going to be used on him, IT SHOULD BE HIS PROPERTY NOT URS. 

WHY DO U NEED IT IF AS U CLAIM IT WOULD ONLY BE USED ON HIM?


quote:


i'm not  debasing your  intellectual skills.. just saying some folks dont *feel me*.

oh i feel u.  i feel u would stay here til 2050 making excuses u cant defend.  u just keep on and on trying to make excuses as to why people buy u things

but u know.  and i know.

the real reason is nothing to do with contributing to a scene.

it's so u can get something for free and use it on any other slave too.

  

Can you please buy a vowel? And maybe some consonants, a bit of punctuation and a capital or two? It really lends support to your argument when you call other people "whores" if the message can be actually read and understood. Thanks and Pat Sajak and Vanna thank you as well. [:)]



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