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barrick -> Fair play (8/29/2010 8:31:07 PM)

So a woman demands equal pay in the work force but demands to be paid for on a date.

What is your take? A forbidden topic of female privilege? Yet any shape or form of male privilege is an open topic?
Equality should EQUALLY concern both genders, right?



sisterjubilee -> RE: Fair play (8/29/2010 8:35:15 PM)

They argued the hell out of this one about 2 months ago.  Check it out. 
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3246873/mpage_1/tm.htm
 
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  sweetsub1957 ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:36:34 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   I do believe women should be paid the same as men when they are doing the same job.  Why not?  The days of men being the only breadwinners are long gone.  As for men paying entirely for dates, well, I pay my own way.  I don't want anyone thinking I "owe" them "anything" because "they paid for it."  If I am in an established relationship, we may take turns paying.  It all comes out in the wash, as the saying goes.  There's nothing wrong with that either. 
  
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				  barrick ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:36:51 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   Instead of reading the whole thread. Give me the basis please 
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  sweetsub1957 ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:38:57 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   barrick, why don't you read it yourself instead of having a woman do your work for you?  You should have caught that thread when you used the search function.........if you did. 
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  LadyHibiscus ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:40:00 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   Sweetsub is a whole BAG of chips and dip besides!!  [sm=cute.gif] 
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  barrick ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:41:15 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   I do believe women should be paid the same as men when they are  doing the same job.  Why not? 
  
 They are paid the same besides feminist privilege. 
  
 http://www.warrenfarrell.net/TheBook/ 
  
 http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf 
  
  
  
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  LadyHibiscus ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:42:48 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   So, you are too cheap to pay for your dates, or you want the woman to pay, or what? 
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  sweetsub1957 ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:44:00 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   Thank You, LadyH!!  ((hugs))  I luvs You. 
  
 Barrick, what makes you think women are paid the same as men?  A 21.5% wage gap is NOT equal.....  
 http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf  
  
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				  Nineveh ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:44:19 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   
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ORIGINAL:  barrick 
  
 So a woman demands equal pay in the work force but demands to be paid for on a date. 
   
  What is your take? A forbidden topic of female privilege? Yet any shape or form of male privilege is an open topic? 
 Equality should EQUALLY concern both genders, right? 
  
 
 
  
 This is a forbidden topic?  Maybe it is a UK vs US thing, since you are close to my age so it is not generational.  I have, admittedly, almost never gone on a date in the way most people seem to, so I don't have that much experience.  However, since most of the women I have been with tend to be better off financially than I they tend to be the ones who pay for things.  Dinner, movie tickets, or what have you.  The occasions I have money and they don't I tend to pay, but there's never been an assumption I would pay.  I haven't heard this assumption from my friends either, male or female. 
  
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  barrick ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:47:45 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   
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 So, you are too cheap to pay for your dates, or you want the woman to  pay, or what? 
 
  
 Is this an example of female privilege? Even that women have complained about male privilege for generations? 
  
 So a male is cheap if he doesn't pay but a female is not cheap if she doesn't pay? Can anyone spell "double standard"? 
  
 Please explain your logic and intelligent fact behind this theory? 
  
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  sweetsub1957 ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:52:02 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   Geez, Barrick, who pissed in YOUR wheaties?  Do You just not like women in general or what? 
  
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				  LadyHibiscus ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:52:48 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				    
 
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ORIGINAL:  barrick 
  
 
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 So, you are too cheap to pay for your dates, or you want the woman to  pay, or what? 
 
  
 Is this an example of female privilege? Even that women have complained about male privilege for generations? 
  
 So a male is cheap if he doesn't pay but a female is not cheap if she doesn't pay? Can anyone spell "double standard"? 
  
 Please explain your logic and intelligent fact behind this theory? 
  
 
 
  
  
 It's not a theory, I am asking for clarification. 
  
 I was on a coffee meet with a guy, who was PRESUMABLY trying to make a good impression on me.  The check came, AS USUAL I got my wallet out, and he was THRILLED to take my money for my share of the ticket.   That is CHEAPNESS. 
  
 If I ask someone out, I pay.  I also have no problem splitting the check.  It's also pleasant to be taken out.  Tomorrow, I am out to lunch with a guy from the other side, and who knows who is paying?  We didn't discuss it. 
  
 What is YOUR purpose in bringing up this discussion, which has already been beaten to death? 
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  stef ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:52:58 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   
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ORIGINAL:  sweetsub1957 
  
 Geez, Barrick, who pissed in YOUR wheaties?  Do You just not like women in general or what?
 
 Look at his posting history.  He's here to grind an axe, nothing more. 
  
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				  LadyHibiscus ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:54:02 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				    
 
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ORIGINAL:  stef 
  
 
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ORIGINAL:  sweetsub1957 
  
 Geez, Barrick, who pissed in YOUR wheaties?  Do You just not like women in general or what?
 
 Look at his posting history.  He's here to grind an axe, nothing more. 
  
 ~stef 
  
 
 
  
 I made a PERFECTLY GOOD suggestion about the Thread Graveyard, and the Powers ignored it.  Sad. 
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  barrick ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:54:51 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   
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 Geez, Barrick, who pissed in YOUR wheaties?  Do You just not like women  in general or what? 
 
  
 typical diversionary tactic. What's the truth? 
  
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  littlewonder ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:55:04 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   obviously you don't know the finesse of seduction. Seems to be a dying art. Sigh. 
  
 Call me traditional. I like when a man pays on the first date. It tells me he's a gentleman and knows the fine art of seduction. 
  
 And yeah..I still think women should be paid the same as men for the same job but that's just not the case just yet in today's world. Women are still  underpaid. 
  
 If you don't want to pay on a date then just say so before you take her out so you both know where you stand. Maybe she'll surprise you and won't care. Hell my daughter thinks everyone should go dutch even on a first date. Not my thing and I shrug it off as a generational difference. Seems the younger generation have different dating etiquette. 
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  sophiesback ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:56:04 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   
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If I ask someone out, I pay.
 
  
 This. Period.  
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  LadyHibiscus ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 8:59:06 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				   LOL I was waiting for this to get moved!! 
  
  
				  
	          		
	        

	        
 
	          

			  	  		
	        

		  

				
	  

	
	  
			
  













  
 
    
	

	  
 
	    
		 

		    

			  
				  sweetsub1957 ->  RE: Fair play  (8/29/2010 9:01:19 PM)
			  
			

	        

			  

		          
				    
 
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ORIGINAL:  barrick 
  
 
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 Geez, Barrick, who pissed in YOUR wheaties?  Do You just not like women  in general or what? 
 
  
 typical diversionary tactic. What's the truth? 
  
 
 
 haha.  Cute.  Your posting history tells more than I'm sure You wish it did.....Males Must Be Punished.......The Anti-Feminism Bias......Fair Play.....  You like to stir up shit.  I've read your threads, and chose not to post on them, until this one.  They show you to be a man with a chip on His shoulder. 
  
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