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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

Anyone want to take bets that the power that steps up to the plate, will be far worse than Saddam ever was?

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Tazzy, so you are saying Obama was lying about Bush?

Or that Obama is stupid/Delusional?

Or?


"Yet no one could doubt President Bush's support for our troops, or his love of country and commitment to our security. As I have said, there were patriots who supported this war, and patriots who opposed it." Barak Obama


Yet, I saw a lot of doubt of those things here in this Chatroom, by Obama supporters. By the same people praising the speech.

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I see all the right-leaning posters commenting about how Obama should have given Bush more credit.

I've commented twice on this thread and I didn't mention Bush. Are you sure you even know who the right leaning posters are?

Yeah. I'm pretty sure I'm one of them, and my comment about Bush II was that President Obama had nice words for him. Perhaps LAM missed it, but Tazzy specifically raised that individual in her pithy OP.

LAM, if you see ALL the right-leaning posters railing on Obama about not saying more on Bush, maybe it's time for the eye exam.

What I see is a hell of a lot of people who don't want to talk about why the President they helped elect gave such a sorry ass performance. I'd love to hear those theories.

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Tazzy, so you are saying Obama was lying about Bush?

Or that Obama is stupid/Delusional?

Or?


"Yet no one could doubt President Bush's support for our troops, or his love of country and commitment to our security. As I have said, there were patriots who supported this war, and patriots who opposed it." Barak Obama


Yet, I saw a lot of doubt of those things here in this Chatroom, by Obama supporters. By the same people praising the speech.

Chatroom?

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Obama seemed to forget that he was dead set against the surge in Iraq. The surge worked but he also forgot to give any credit to the president who presided him who was responsible for the surge. That speech was a joke.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Fumes maybe?? smiles..It does make you wonder why, when he is so good naturally.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Tazzy, so you are saying Obama was lying about Bush?

Or that Obama is stupid/Delusional?

Or?


"Yet no one could doubt President Bush's support for our troops, or his love of country and commitment to our security. As I have said, there were patriots who supported this war, and patriots who opposed it." Barak Obama


Yet, I saw a lot of doubt of those things here in this Chatroom, by Obama supporters. By the same people praising the speech.

Chatroom?

So you run from the question with semantics....

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Obama did just what he said he would do... get out of Iraq by the end of August.. and still you arent happy.

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

Obama did what an agreement between the US and Iraq mandated him to do, and that agreement was developed and signed by Bush and the Iraqi leaders BEFORE Obama became POTUS...and still you give no credit to Bush and all credit to Obama.

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WASHINGTON — The White House says there are two words President Barack Obama will not say Tuesday night in his speech about the end of the U.S. combat role in Iraq: "Mission accomplished."

Seven years ago, President George W. Bush stood on an aircraft carrier to declare an end to major combat operations in Iraq. A banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished" flew nearby. The Bush White House came to deeply regret that sign as the war dragged on and U.S. deaths mounted.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38922580/ns/politics-white_house/

I dont ever believe it was the intention to win this after it was discovered there were no WMDs there.

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WASHINGTON — The White House says there are two words President Barack Obama will not say Tuesday night in his speech about the end of the U.S. combat role in Iraq: "Mission accomplished."

Seven years ago, President George W. Bush stood on an aircraft carrier to declare an end to major combat operations in Iraq. A banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished" flew nearby. The Bush White House came to deeply regret that sign as the war dragged on and U.S. deaths mounted.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38922580/ns/politics-white_house/

I dont ever believe it was the intention to win this after it was discovered there were no WMDs there.

How many times does it need to be explained that the banner was put up by the SAILORS on that ship who HAD accomplished their mission?  Was Bush mistaken in standing before that banner for a photo op?  Yes.  Did he regret his spontaneous, poorly thought-out posturing in front of that banner once the press jumped on it?  I'm pretty sure he did.  But none of that has anything to do with the truth of the situation.

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

How many times does it need to be explained that the banner was put up by the SAILORS on that ship who HAD accomplished their mission?  Was Bush mistaken in standing before that banner for a photo op?  Yes.  Did he regret his spontaneous, poorly thought-out posturing in front of that banner once the press jumped on it?  I'm pretty sure he did.  But none of that has anything to do with the truth of the situation.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

WASHINGTON — The White House says there are two words President Barack Obama will not say Tuesday night in his speech about the end of the U.S. combat role in Iraq: "Mission accomplished."

Seven years ago, President George W. Bush stood on an aircraft carrier to declare an end to major combat operations in Iraq. A banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished" flew nearby. The Bush White House came to deeply regret that sign as the war dragged on and U.S. deaths mounted.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38922580/ns/politics-white_house/

I dont ever believe it was the intention to win this after it was discovered there were no WMDs there.

How many times does it need to be explained that the banner was put up by the SAILORS on that ship who HAD accomplished their mission?  Was Bush mistaken in standing before that banner for a photo op?  Yes.  Did he regret his spontaneous, poorly thought-out posturing in front of that banner once the press jumped on it?  I'm pretty sure he did.  But none of that has anything to do with the truth of the situation.

Are you truly this gullible? 

That story didn't surface until six months after Bush's speech on the carrier, after he had been taking heat from the media for declaring combat operations over when they clearly were not.

I suppose it was also the crew's idea to fly him out and do a carrier landing so he could make a speech that he could have done from the White House.

The whole thing was a huge publicity stunt that blew up in his face, and then they started this spin.

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

How many times does it need to be explained that the banner was put up by the SAILORS on that ship who HAD accomplished their mission?  Was Bush mistaken in standing before that banner for a photo op?  Yes.  Did he regret his spontaneous, poorly thought-out posturing in front of that banner once the press jumped on it?  I'm pretty sure he did.  But none of that has anything to do with the truth of the situation.

HOW MANY MOTHERFUCKING TIMES DOES THAT PIECE OF SHIT LIE NEED TO BE DEBUNKED?????

According to CBS News political analyst Dan Bartlett, a former senior adviser to Mr. Bush, when asked,  who was responsible for the banner - and it was pointed out that both the Navy and former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past - Bartlett said that it was actually his call.  

In November 2008, Bush indicated that he regretted the use of the banner, stating in a CNN interview, "To some, it said, well, 'Bush thinks the war in Iraq is over,' when I didn't think that. It conveyed the wrong message."

In January 2009, Bush said that "Clearly, putting 'Mission Accomplished' on an aircraft carrier was a mistake"




Historically,
Some Knucklehead in NJ

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

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ORIGINAL: pogo4pres

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

How many times does it need to be explained that the banner was put up by the SAILORS on that ship who HAD accomplished their mission?  Was Bush mistaken in standing before that banner for a photo op?  Yes.  Did he regret his spontaneous, poorly thought-out posturing in front of that banner once the press jumped on it?  I'm pretty sure he did.  But none of that has anything to do with the truth of the situation.

HOW MANY MOTHERFUCKING TIMES DOES THAT PIECE OF SHIT LIE NEED TO BE DEBUNKED?????

According to CBS News political analyst Dan Bartlett, a former senior adviser to Mr. Bush, when asked,  who was responsible for the banner - and it was pointed out that both the Navy and former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past - Bartlett said that it was actually his call.  

In November 2008, Bush indicated that he regretted the use of the banner, stating in a CNN interview, "To some, it said, well, 'Bush thinks the war in Iraq is over,' when I didn't think that. It conveyed the wrong message."

In January 2009, Bush said that "Clearly, putting 'Mission Accomplished' on an aircraft carrier was a mistake"




Historically,
Some Knucklehead in NJ

Debunking it once would be nice, if that is what you want to do. "Some knucklehead" declaring it so, isn't a debunking.

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

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ORIGINAL: pogo4pres

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

How many times does it need to be explained that the banner was put up by the SAILORS on that ship who HAD accomplished their mission?  Was Bush mistaken in standing before that banner for a photo op?  Yes.  Did he regret his spontaneous, poorly thought-out posturing in front of that banner once the press jumped on it?  I'm pretty sure he did.  But none of that has anything to do with the truth of the situation.

HOW MANY MOTHERFUCKING TIMES DOES THAT PIECE OF SHIT LIE NEED TO BE DEBUNKED?????

According to CBS News political analyst Dan Bartlett, a former senior adviser to Mr. Bush, when asked,  who was responsible for the banner - and it was pointed out that both the Navy and former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past - Bartlett said that it was actually his call.  

In November 2008, Bush indicated that he regretted the use of the banner, stating in a CNN interview, "To some, it said, well, 'Bush thinks the war in Iraq is over,' when I didn't think that. It conveyed the wrong message."

In January 2009, Bush said that "Clearly, putting 'Mission Accomplished' on an aircraft carrier was a mistake"




Historically,
Some Knucklehead in NJ

Debunking it once would be nice, if that is what you want to do. "Some knucklehead" declaring it so, isn't a debunking.

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Not mentioned in the ad -- or in McCain's full introduction of Bush -- is the fact that McCain has repeatedly criticized Bush for his handling of the war, saying he should have sent more troops, should have planned better for the occupation, and should have prepared the public better for a long, bloody conflict.

For example, McCain took a slap at the President's televised speech aboard the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln after the fall of Baghdad. He said on NBC News's "Meet the Press" program April 16:

McCain: I didn't think we needed to have "Mission Accomplished" banner, which by the way the crew doesn't decide what banners go up on aircraft carriers. . . .