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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 11:47:41 AM   
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WHILE, I am not bi, I do have many great bio Dom's that are friends of ours, live and let live, another question if a straight Master accepts head or uses a male of his wife's does that make him gay just an curious old Masters question smile..Bounty


I am going to go out on a limb and say, that probably depends upon who you ask.


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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 11:47:53 AM   
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another question if a straight Master accepts head or uses a male of his wife's does that make him gay just an curious old Masters question smile..Bounty

I think that would mean that he was bi.

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 11:48:05 AM   
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my Mistress is bisexual. She is female. i am a lesbian. i am totally fine with Her being bisexual as long as She has no intentions of requiring me to participate sexually with a male. for that matter i am not sure i could or would scene with a male. i am not a "man-hater". i will befriend a male mor eoften than not. i just have no desires to share that side of me. on that note, i am not that fond of scening with anyone except my Mistress and my girlfriend....and no those 2 are not one in the same.

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 11:57:39 AM   
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Well I have used a male slave of Diane';s getting head so I guess old Bounty is bi smile..BH

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 12:09:28 PM   
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What I underlined is the crux to what I was attempting to say. Nowhere in all my opoists on this topic had I called anyone homophobic and no where had I called you or anyone else homophobic either. I used the word "wonder" specifically because I am trying my damnedest to understand as much of people's reasoning on how they feel on certain topics such as this. The more I learn, the better I understand humanity and the more I am able to gain tolerance myself. Understanding brings knowledge and that is all I am trying to do, trying to understand others and in turn understand why I am the way I am.


Since you are participating in this thread, bear, maybe you can add additional insight.  My understanding has been that there are some folks who identify as homosexual that also have the same preferences/opinions regarding partnerships with bisexuals.  From what I've been exposed to, there is also some of the same thought patterns.  There have been comments made from time to time that if someone is bi, they aren't "really" gay because they have a sexual interest in both genders.  I'm not attempting to justify anyone's preference either way, but perhaps you could lend some wisdom of things that you have heard and/or experienced through the gay community.  From what I know, there are folks out there who aren't heterosexual that do also consider this when dealing with a prospective partner.  Maybe you could enlighten Me?

I did know a bisexual woman years ago who, even though she was bisexual herself, absolutely refused to even date a male who was bi.  In fact, she had some pretty terrible things to say on the matter.  I'm not sure if I want to say outright that it seemed a bit hypocritical, but it was certainly odd to Me.


I think that right there has been what has hit ME about some of what I've read on this thread...

I know there's no accounting for preferences...if you like Roman showers, go ahead and find someone else who does but they're not for me.  But, we are not talking preferences, other than as a choice of partner, we are talking about someone's sexuality and inner being.

When it comes to sexual wiring, I find it a bit odd that someone could consider it O.K. for themselves to be wired bisexually but they don't want their partner to be wired that way...

I find it a bit odd that someone could state that they've lived their life however wildly they wanted to and not only expects their partner to accept that but who will also accept that they fit "partner criteria" only if they did the exact opposite...didn't have sex with multiple partners, didn't have sex with same-sex partners, didn't even entertain the THOUGHT of same-sex partners.

I find it odd that some of these same people are the ones who've come down on those who have made the politically incorrect mistake of judging others' behaviors/preferences/likes-dislikes on other threads.  (the fat vs. slim vs. well-rounded threads come immediately to mind)


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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 12:25:27 PM   
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I find it odd that some of these same people are the ones who've come down on those who have made the politically incorrect mistake of judging others' behaviors/preferences/likes-dislikes on other threads.  (the fat vs. slim vs. well-rounded threads come immediately to mind)

I don't find it odd, because I don't see it as external judgement. Nobody is saying that being bisexual is bad, just that they don't want a bisexual partner.

Let's put it another way: I was brought up in an Iraqi Jewish family. I honestly think that having a partner who was also brought up in an Iraqi Jewish family would drive me *mental*. Is that hypocritical? It's not that I dislike Iraqi Jews, it's that I think we're incompatible.

The only thing that I really see as judgement in this thread is Celeste's assertion that bisexual men are incapable of heterosexual monogamy. *That* makes me deeply uncomfortable. That's not to say I quite understand Aynne, Aileen et al's thought processes, but I don't see them as being necessarily hypocritical.


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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 12:39:58 PM   
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Those of us who prefer a straight man and those who prefer a bi-sexual man are hard wired to feel the way they do.

How do you know that?



I only know how I feel and I was making an assumption based on the many replies to the thread. Obviously, I may be wrong for making assumptions that others are hard wired.

My comments are just among the long list of comments in the thread.

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 12:42:27 PM   
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The hard wired comment makes a lot of sense to me, Sexyred, and I think it's a big help in understanding the intensity of the responses. Which is the ONLY thing that boggles me. Shoot, EVERYONE has preferences, and whiile some folks are way out there and unlikely (ie fat old guy wants 18 yo supermodel) that doesn't make them wrong or bad.



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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 12:43:50 PM   
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I don't see the preferences as any different than preferring a thin woman rather than a fat woman. Of course if I began a relationship with a thin woman and she became fat.........I would SOOOOOO kick her to the curb!!!

Like a man I once knew. Married a woman with two breasts. She got cancer and lost one breast. He ditched her. People thought it was terrible of him. Not sure why, his preference is for a woman with two breasts....


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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 12:45:15 PM   
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Months ago there was a thread on fet asking men if they would ever consider a blow job from another man in lieu of masturbating.

I was among those who said no, absolutely not.

I was called a homophobe and told I was in denial of my sexuality...:)

It is not just straight folks who can seem judgmental.

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 12:47:10 PM   
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So that gloryhole in the bathroom at Zed's doesn't count....?

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 12:52:09 PM   
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Months ago there was a thread on fet asking men if they would ever consider a blow job from another man in lieu of masturbating.

I was among those who said no, absolutely not.

I was called a homophobe and told I was in denial of my sexuality...:)

It is not just straight folks who can seem judgmental.


I remeber that thread on fet and I believe the number of straight Masters that said they would  use a male slaves was very low..BH

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 12:57:00 PM   
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I know where My right hand has been.

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 1:03:29 PM   
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What I underlined is the crux to what I was attempting to say. Nowhere in all my opoists on this topic had I called anyone homophobic and no where had I called you or anyone else homophobic either. I used the word "wonder" specifically because I am trying my damnedest to understand as much of people's reasoning on how they feel on certain topics such as this. The more I learn, the better I understand humanity and the more I am able to gain tolerance myself. Understanding brings knowledge and that is all I am trying to do, trying to understand others and in turn understand why I am the way I am.


Since you are participating in this thread, bear, maybe you can add additional insight.  My understanding has been that there are some folks who identify as homosexual that also have the same preferences/opinions regarding partnerships with bisexuals.  From what I've been exposed to, there is also some of the same thought patterns.  There have been comments made from time to time that if someone is bi, they aren't "really" gay because they have a sexual interest in both genders.  I'm not attempting to justify anyone's preference either way, but perhaps you could lend some wisdom of things that you have heard and/or experienced through the gay community.  From what I know, there are folks out there who aren't heterosexual that do also consider this when dealing with a prospective partner.  Maybe you could enlighten Me?

I did know a bisexual woman years ago who, even though she was bisexual herself, absolutely refused to even date a male who was bi.  In fact, she had some pretty terrible things to say on the matter.  I'm not sure if I want to say outright that it seemed a bit hypocritical, but it was certainly odd to Me.




Greetings Lady P.
From my own experience in the local gay community, that attitude which you stated is sadly alive and well. Most of the gay males have a learned attitude that women are for lack of a better term "yucky" and any male who identifies as bisexual is either called confused or simply unable to make their mind if they are attracted to women or men. A few years ago, I was questioned to how I could engage in BDSM play with a woman because I was gay. I had to explain to this person as if I was talking to a child that I am able to separate sexual BDSM activities with non sexual BDSM activities without conflict. Yes it is a fact that many of us in the gay community, both male and female, are just as bad or even worse for being intolerant of others, I see this every month going to a LGBT dance and observing the lack of social interactions between the genders and overhearing many of my acquaintances making derogatory comments about the women who attend.

For the longest time, I confess I also had that same close minded attitude regarding bisexuals, I knew I was wrong, I knew it stemmed from me not understanding the whys and wherefores of how a person could be attracted to both males and females yet didn't know where to start to change that.  It took an honest heart to heart talk with friend of mine who identifies as bisexual to explain the attraction to both. Her analogy is "sometimes I feel like having a glass of wine and sometimes I feel like having a beer."  It's amazing how a simple ananlogy was able to clear my predjudice towards bisexuals. I keep that analogy in mind every time I find I am about to make a derogatory remark towards anyone who's orientation is one I don't understand as well as their kink proclivities.


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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 1:04:53 PM   
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Well I have used a male slave of Diane';s getting head so I guess old Bounty is bi smile..BH


Or sometimes a mouth is just a mouth BH.


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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 1:06:01 PM   
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Excellent post! 

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 1:06:44 PM   
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Those of us who prefer a straight man and those who prefer a bi-sexual man are hard wired to feel the way they do.

How do you know that?


I only know how I feel and I was making an assumption based on the many replies to the thread. Obviously, I may be wrong for making assumptions that others are hard wired.

My comments are just among the long list of comments in the thread.


Actually I indicated in a prior entry that I posted that I only desire a heterosexual submissive female to sexually relate with. No flexibility whatsoever as it is related to my desires. How’s that for hard wired, aye!

Take good care!


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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 1:07:44 PM   
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So that gloryhole in the bathroom at Zed's doesn't count....?


Are you sure that wasn't m??....opps  TMI, sorry.


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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 1:12:00 PM   
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Well I have used a male slave of Diane';s getting head so I guess old Bounty is bi smile..BH


I was told it doesn't count unless you take your socks off.
And make eye contact.

This entire thing is very complicated. Some of the criteria have pages of exceptions.

For example: It doesn't count if you had sex in prison, but only if it happened no more than 3 times and you have atleast 2 tattoos. There is an allotment of an additional 1 time per every 7 years after the first 5 years.

Also: If making out with another man has directly resulted in more than 1 topless female, it doesn't count either by virtue of being a male pig (Refer to section 6-7-22-5). (This is in the same category as eating raw fish but not related to opening beer with your teeth - which is just plain stupid.)


P.S. I wouldn't want to engage in any sort of D/s activity with any men. The mental part just doesn't work well for me.

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 1:45:39 PM   
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The only thing that I really see as judgement in this thread is Celeste's assertion that bisexual men are incapable of heterosexual monogamy. *That* makes me deeply uncomfortable. That's not to say I quite understand Aynne, Aileen et al's thought processes, but I don't see them as being necessarily hypocritical.



I didn't say that categorically they are incapable of it, just that I have never known one who was. Obviously there are millions of bisexual males whom I have not met and I am sure many are living heterosexual lives. Unfortunately of the men I have met who are bisexual and who are married and living conventional heterosexual lives, a preponderance went out cruising to have anonymous sex with other males. Which does not fit my definition of monogamy.

Is it possible? Yes.
Do I know any? No.
Am I judging by those people I've met? Yes.

Just as you are judging by your experience of Iraqi Jews to announce you could not possibly ever be compatible with any despite the fact that there are many of them whom you've never met.


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