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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:04:11 PM   
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Can you pass the strudel?

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:11:31 PM   
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oi vey. I knew you seemed to perfect to be true.

Can you pass the strudel?

You're talking Yiddish, hon-that's Western Jews.

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:16:58 PM   
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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:20:06 PM   
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I didn't say that categorically they are incapable of it, just that I have never known one who was.

The implication of what you wrote was that you were willing to extrapolate out from the men you did know to bisexual men in general.

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Just as you are judging by your experience of Iraqi Jews to announce you could not possibly ever be compatible with any despite the fact that there are many of them whom you've never met.

Ok, the Iraqi Jew example was given half in jest. I was also simplifying-there's a range of characteristics and reactions you develop growing up in a house like mine that I can cope with in a sibling but not in a partner-'Iraqi Jew' is basically a shorthand for that range of behaviours.

I suppose my using 'Iraqi Jew' as shorthand for 'person brought up in a very loud house with an obsession for rice-based foodstuffs, a tendency to slight but amiable racism and a decidedly ambivalent attitude to financial fraud' is equivalent to you using 'bisexual man' for 'automatic cheater'. I'm aware that I'm talking about a caricature, but you don't seem to be.

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:22:50 PM   
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Pass the pitta? (am I getting warmer?)


Lol-yes. Start talking about falafel and I'm yours, baby!

(And well done for not calling it 'pitta bread'. That's one of the most annoying things in my mother's life that the English do. She's lived here for near on five decades and it still pisses her off.)

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:25:44 PM   
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Yes, that would annoy me too.



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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:30:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		If my partner was a dominant, and he was bi, I would be turned off. Now here's where this is going to make sense to some, and to some not. I am a bisexual Dominant, but I don't domme women, even if I did, I wouldn't get off sexually with a female submissive. The question arose somewhere above, If someone was considered gay because he allowed a sub to give him head. No I don't believe he's gay, but he's definitely bisexual if he got off from it. Women are programmed much differently then men, Men love seeing a woman with another woman. Whether I am in a scene or not a male who isn't into another man, will not get erect, will not agree to the scene. The bi-curious have gone a little further but never consumate the deal. Usually the forced bi don't enjoy the sexual aspect of it, but instead the humiliation.

I could never date a man who is out there bi. Only because I am selfish in that respect. For me, when I do date exclusively, I'm not with a woman either. So I do practice what I preach. Now did I go off on a tangent, I think I have more of a point to say and make, but I'm off to do some work. Bash this if you must, but It's definitely my opinion and my wants, and my lifestyle. I totally understand the man who uses his hand, and is not into it, and I understand the man who is, the woman who isn't and the woman who is, for me - I'm not dating a bi male - plain and simply.

Editing before I hit edit (cause I have the right to do it, I'm an Edit-er[/i]) - Bounty - you were involved in a bisexual act, you probably got off, and if you want it again, your probably - bi - And a mouth is only a mouth unless a moustache is attached to the mouth, then it's definitely a males mouth. I'm definitely bi but when I'm with a woman she doesn't have a stache - shes soft and beautiful - and it's sexy as fuck.

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:35:19 PM   
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I'd also like to add it's not bisexual if "whatever happens, happens" in a war trench, because in such a place everything not dead yet seems beautiful beyond belief (and then some)!

I've come to the conclusion that people have different definitions of the term "bi" (especially after reading the above post).

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:37:26 PM   
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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:43:43 PM   
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One Matzo-falafel to go please

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:45:42 PM   
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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:46:22 PM   
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I could never date a man who is out there bi. Only because I am selfish in that respect. For me, when I do date exclusively, I'm not with a woman either. So I do practice what I preach.

If a bi male wanted to date you exclusively, why would you be against that? Isn't that exactly what you are doing?


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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 2:46:59 PM   
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".... Now here's where this is going to make sense to some, and to some not. I am a bisexual Dominant, but I don't domme women, even if I did, I wouldn't get off sexually with a female submissive...."



Yet domming another does not necessary involve a sexual aspect.


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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 3:07:20 PM   
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Yet domming another does not necessary involve a sexual aspect.

No, but it's still different-I've had experiences on both side of the whip with both genders, and even if it's not sexual then for me there's a difference between playing with men and playing with women. Neither is necessarily better from my point of view, but they *are* different.

YMMV, obvs.

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 3:08:34 PM   
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Yet domming another does not necessary involve a sexual aspect.

No, but it's still different-I've had experiences on both side of the whip with both genders, and even if it's not sexual then for me there's a difference between playing with men and playing with women. Neither is necessarily better from my point of view, but they *are* different.

YMMV, obvs.


Agreed when it's looked at from a one on one perspective though I was looking at that from a general POV.


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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 3:11:47 PM   
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I think that right there has been what has hit ME about some of what I've read on this thread...

I know there's no accounting for preferences...if you like Roman showers, go ahead and find someone else who does but they're not for me.  But, we are not talking preferences, other than as a choice of partner, we are talking about someone's sexuality and inner being.

When it comes to sexual wiring, I find it a bit odd that someone could consider it O.K. for themselves to be wired bisexually but they don't want their partner to be wired that way...

I find it a bit odd that someone could state that they've lived their life however wildly they wanted to and not only expects their partner to accept that but who will also accept that they fit "partner criteria" only if they did the exact opposite...didn't have sex with multiple partners, didn't have sex with same-sex partners, didn't even entertain the THOUGHT of same-sex partners.

I find it odd that some of these same people are the ones who've come down on those who have made the politically incorrect mistake of judging others' behaviors/preferences/likes-dislikes on other threads.  (the fat vs. slim vs. well-rounded threads come immediately to mind)



I don't think that anyone necessarily judged anyone else.  If the original question is what works for someone in a partner, everyone has their own right to preferences.  I don't think it's easy to separate various elements that may be seen as automatically attached the question.  As has been brought up, we're expanding it to include the mono vrs poly aspect (potentially) as well.

I suppose I'm somewhat of the opposite of what some folks have expressed.  I'm straight, but I've loved it when I've had bisexual submissives in the past.  I know that My personal kinks play into that (shocker, I know) but I think that is what makes Me relate to the question in this way. 


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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 3:11:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Wolf2Bear

Agreed when it's looked at from a one on one perspective though I was looking at that from a general POV.


OK-sorry, I misunderstood

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 3:26:12 PM   
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I could never date a man who is out there bi. Only because I am selfish in that respect. For me, when I do date exclusively, I'm not with a woman either. So I do practice what I preach.

If a bi male wanted to date you exclusively, why would you be against that? Isn't that exactly what you are doing?




If he's exclusively with me then yes I can, I never said "I would be against it" if he's not then no I cannot. I can date men who have and are with other women, I don't have a problem sticking my tongue down their throat, but I'm turned off when they're dating another man, it's just my preference. So again like I said, "if they're out there bi, then no I cannot. Exclusively with me, absolutely. Not that its right, it's me, my preference.

Edited: OF COURSE, cause I'm in traffic - not driving but stopped completely.

< Message edited by MistressLavinia -- 9/8/2010 3:35:34 PM >

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 5:47:37 PM   
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I suppose I'm somewhat of the opposite of what some folks have expressed.  I'm straight, but I've loved it when I've had bisexual submissives in the past.  I know that My personal kinks play into that (shocker, I know) but I think that is what makes Me relate to the question in this way. 

Yeah....I'm a fan of that as well.

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RE: Bisexual Dominants - 9/8/2010 6:26:13 PM   
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I also have to seriously wonder if the anger partially stems from many people not fully understanding how a man can be attracted and aroused by another male?


That may be how it works for some, but not for me. I've spent half my life in one of the Fire Island gay communities. I have seen every possible permutation of sexuality out on the beach. I've been offered sex with other women, threesomes of me (straight) a dear gay friend and a bisexual male, group gropes etc. I've turned them all down.

I'm not angry, I'm uninterested. I'm monogamous. I want my counterpart, a straight monogamous male. I have that. I asked him about prior experiences before I committed. If in fact he lied to me because he knew I wouldn't have found him compatible, then the lying would just exacerbate the problem. I want what I want and if I can't have it, I'll share my bed with a good book instead. This is how I'm wired.

I'm also really tired of being called homophobic because I don't want to fuck a man who wants to fuck other men.


Excellent! I applaud your clarity & strength. I do relate to your position being a heterosexual man. I will not mate with any female who has is sexually attracted to women & surely would NEVER engage sexually with any man! My sexual preference is not negotiable!

Take good care!

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