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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 2:11:16 PM   
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Lady Pact the Why do mono people attack poly people was the last Time I remember, I still dont understand why people assume because you choose X you have no idea or any information about y or z.

I also dont understand why people feel the need to go out of their way to act like grade schoolers and whine your opinion just isnt worth it your not a "insert title here"



I may not have been clear.

My statement was referring to someone posting a question on the poly boards and saying "no monogamous people should answer" or "you're not poly" in reply.  I don't think I've ever seen a thread such as "why do monogamous people respond" in the poly section.  That was what I meant.

I have seen one thread in the Mistress section, asking folk if it bothered them if others who don't identify as a Domme replied to posts there.  It was some time ago and, in My opinion, it didn't go over very well.  I suppose there's no feeling of us having to piss on our territory to mark it.


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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 2:11:32 PM   
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Politeness is not a rule. It is a choice. I see a lot fewer people making it or even understanding when it should be applied.


You could have a point. For example in this thread, I have asked the OP a question a couple of times and he has totally ignored me and my question. How fucking rude is that?

Actually multiple threads on the same topic in different forums is against TOS. (not a joke)


Did you miss the part where that is against TOS and the mods will delete one of the threads?



This being the sum total of all those important replies, none of which addressed the point in anyway, was why it was not replied to. Stating a rule does not require a reply. As a baby Mod you may well one day grow up into one. If a Mod had a serious issue with my postings I am sure they would let me know. They moved the thread so were reading it. Though to be fair, perhaps they felt you had made the point for them and they did not need to? If so thank you for your point which I read, but there was no need to reply since it was not and did not address anything dealing with the points of this discussion. It just addressed a possible rules violation. What did you really need? Me to validate that you had stated a rule of Collarme? Consider yourself validated. I would stamp your diapered bum as proof but online stamping just does not really work well.

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Actually you suggested using multiple threads about one subject so that the "correct" orientation could answer in their own separate forum. I, along with a couple of other posters pointed out that it violated TOS. I questioned you about it and you ignored the question. Now you are going to act like a condescending ass and try to twist it around. Not that I am surprised, just saying....


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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 2:18:48 PM   
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I feel as if I have been chastised.  This is a public forum, a message board, no more, no less.   It's sole purpose is for people to interact via written word.  Calling somone rude or impolite for actually typing a message in response to someone else, seems ludicrous to me.   Isn't that the purpose of this very place?  

The written word has always had the possibility of being misread or misconstrued, thats the nature of the beast.  People comprehend in different ways, it happens.  When someone writes a few thousand paragraphs on how impolite people are, it sounds like whinning to me about something you can't control.   My motto for message forums, "weed through the best, ignore the rest".   No sense getting the panties in a knot over what someone else is typing.    Chances are all your lectures and hand slapping isn't going to get you the results you wanted anyway.

Edited to add I forgot to reply directly to the OP...sorry for the confusion...I guess I'm just rude.  :)


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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 2:24:19 PM   
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Now we are getting to the real story here.


Lol if you mean I am replying to a specific question not on topic per se? Sure. I have a tendancy to do that. If you mean I have a secret agenda and after 9 pages I finally got around to it? Seems like a bit of a stretch.

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 2:27:14 PM   
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Isn't it odd that no one complains about the rude masters chatting in the Ask a sub/slave section? It's always about the master section. Like they gotta be protected from us evil subbies and our poisonous words or something.

If you say so. I dont normally post there since I really do not read those sections.

But I am sure we could use protection. We are just Masters. lol

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 2:33:20 PM   
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This politeness business isn't that straightforward.

For example:
I do return shopping carts back to the store very often.
But if everyone did that, the person employed to do so would get fired.
So, am I an inconsiderate bastard?
Or are my motivations based on a selfish need to drive around shopping carts and hear them rattle?

Is correcting your teacher a sign of consideration towards the other students' knowledge or disrespectful show of self-assurance?

Does it matter?

(I just figured you're running out of things to discuss.)


ROFL

Ok fine you are an Inconsiderate Bastard.(Title may be revoked by higher authority) However since his job was created because people did not return the carts, or because the store to be polite and considerate installed staging areas (Cart return spots), we can assume that if everyone such as yourself was returning the carts, no one would have created such a job for the cart returner in the first place. Assuming yet yet again that there actually is such a job and it is not just included as one of the many duties some employees have.

Oh and on a side note, I never run out of things to discuss. And even if I did, there is this thing called a forum, where people can make posts based on ideas they actually had on their own without any prompting from me.

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 2:35:19 PM   
MastrVran


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I actually only return mine about half the time, having had friends whose jobs depended on people being dickish and not putting the carts back. And I want to be polite help my friends keep their jobs. See my halo, it's so pretty...


So are you only helping half your friends or only helping them half the time?

Or perhaps weather played a part?

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 2:42:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MastrVran


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Isn't it odd that no one complains about the rude masters chatting in the Ask a sub/slave section? It's always about the master section. Like they gotta be protected from us evil subbies and our poisonous words or something.

If you say so. I dont normally post there since I really do not read those sections.

But I am sure we could use protection. We are just Masters. lol

MV



It really does seem to just the master section that causes the problems. I blame the delicate male ego.

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 2:43:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MastrVran


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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
I actually only return mine about half the time, having had friends whose jobs depended on people being dickish and not putting the carts back. And I want to be polite help my friends keep their jobs. See my halo, it's so pretty...


So are you only helping half your friends or only helping them half the time?

Or perhaps weather played a part?

MV


I'd go with helping them half the time. They do piss me off sometimes.

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 2:51:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Truthfully, the two forums for Dominants has never been My greatest cheer for this place.  Let's face it.  Unless we're talking about subjects such as those which are related to the physical body (such a prostate cancer, perhaps), there's very little that one gender has completely to their own realm than the other.  There wasn't a split between the genders when it came to submissives, as most questions that would be geared toward submissive aren't gender specific.  I really don't know why it wasn't treated the same.  (With the exception of using the Mistress board as some kind of hng section, but I digress.)

This very subject came up (about female Dominants posting in "Ask A Master") a couple of months back.  After which, I decided that I was going to make some personal observation on some threads.  That same week, someone came along asking how to tie a rope harness.  There were about nine responses to the thread, basically sending the person to reference material.  Could I have typed out how for a top to make one?  You bet I could.  Yet, I sat back and waited to see how long it would take for a male Dominant to make that contribution.  It never happened.

In the last two months, there have also been two threads in "Ask A Master" that were specific to the Atlanta area.  I've sat at the tables of the munches that those folks were looking for and I've attended the events that they were hoping to find.  I knew from personal experience what they wanted to know.  Right down to the name of who runs the munch and where to find the book rack in a particular shop.  There wasn't a different Master who was providing that information.  Just Me.

There shouldn't be any confusion because of the layout.  There is a guideline for every section.  The fact that folks place questions in the area that they most identify with (a male Dominant posting his question in "Master" for example) may not be the best fit, but still an accurate fit.





As usual lol, and yes it did make me laugh, I do not disagree at all.

So many people could answer but do not, maybe they just did not read it, who knows. As for the Munches and Atlanta based info, that really is not something that should be asked in a Master,Mistress,slave,sub forum anyway. At least not and expect it to be relevant to the question. As for me, I could not have answered them without looking the info up. I simply have not attended a munch in Atlanta in years, even the south Atlanta ones. Who knows, maybe I will one day.

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 2:52:41 PM   
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I blame the delicate male ego.

Mine is indeed quite delicate...
So if anyone asks about me and shopping carts the official version is:

I like hearing them rattle and having their wheels squeal while they are under my grip. I swiftly change direction when they least expect it. I dominate shopping carts. Yeah, that's what it is, surely...

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 3:04:46 PM   
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I like hearing them rattle and having their wheels squeal while they are under my grip. I swiftly change direction when they least expect it. I dominate shopping carts. Yeah, that's what it is, surely...


....

You just aroused me by talking about shopping carts.

Now I want to be tied to that cart.

I want you to know that I blame you for the wet panties I'll have later today while shopping.

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 3:07:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AlwaysLisa

I feel as if I have been chastised.  This is a public forum, a message board, no more, no less.   It's sole purpose is for people to interact via written word.  Calling somone rude or impolite for actually typing a message in response to someone else, seems ludicrous to me.   Isn't that the purpose of this very place?  

The written word has always had the possibility of being misread or misconstrued, thats the nature of the beast.  People comprehend in different ways, it happens.  When someone writes a few thousand paragraphs on how impolite people are, it sounds like whinning to me about something you can't control.   My motto for message forums, "weed through the best, ignore the rest".   No sense getting the panties in a knot over what someone else is typing.    Chances are all your lectures and hand slapping isn't going to get you the results you wanted anyway.

Edited to add I forgot to reply directly to the OP...sorry for the confusion...I guess I'm just rude.  :)



Lol thanks. however no one said it was rude. Well let me rephrase, I never said it was rude. Saying that maybe we could do something in one way and it would be polite does not equate with the opposite being required if we simply do it differently.

Its like saying you can be nice. You can just be. Or you can be rude. Probably most people just answer a question. Some do so and appear nice. Others seem to think rudeness is the best way to make their point.

Not being a panty wearer or a hand slapper by nature, I am simply stating an opinion and asking for replies. Some times I get really nice replies. Even those which totally disagree with me, of which there are many more than those which agree, are often stated in a nice discussion oriented format. It leads to a some times spirited discussion and sure tempers can flare. But all in all we have pretty well addressed this point.We are now seeming to break off in some ways and head out into what should possibly be other areas to post on. But if so I will allow someone else to risk stating their opinions and allow them the pleasure of defending them at least on these new directions.

MV

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 3:09:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: MastrVran


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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
Isn't it odd that no one complains about the rude masters chatting in the Ask a sub/slave section? It's always about the master section. Like they gotta be protected from us evil subbies and our poisonous words or something.

If you say so. I dont normally post there since I really do not read those sections.

But I am sure we could use protection. We are just Masters. lol

MV



It really does seem to just the master section that causes the problems. I blame the delicate male ego.


There may be some truth to that as some scientific studies have seemed to indicate. But that of course, would be a different topic lol.

MV

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 3:13:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: Twoshoes

I like hearing them rattle and having their wheels squeal while they are under my grip. I swiftly change direction when they least expect it. I dominate shopping carts. Yeah, that's what it is, surely...


....

You just aroused me by talking about shopping carts.

Now I want to be tied to that cart.

I want you to know that I blame you for the wet panties I'll have later today while shopping.


This might lead to some poor employee having to explain to his supervisor why there were chains, ropes or some other restraints on a shopping cart he just brought back and a strange not rainwater liquid dribbling down its side. His very job could be at stake. Be sure one of your friends is not on duty at this time.

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 3:37:13 PM   
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Bejeeeeeeeeeebers, I fell asleep at pg 7, because of all those long quoted threads, and I wake up to find out it's reached page 10.  Juuuuuuuuuuust sayin.........

OP, why don't you just agree to disagree, try to see that you're just not getting what most people are trying to tell you and forget it?  One thing can be said 300 ways and you still won't get the answer you're looking for no matter how much you "lol" or agree.  Why?  Because you're just not getting it.  And believe me, this IS me being polite.  Enough already. 

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 4:10:16 PM   
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Please make sure you are not attacking the poster when responding to a post. Thank you

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 9:49:10 PM   
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I pulled this OP from the thread i was referring too....

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I'm curious....I have read many subby/slave women profiles on here and they have been single for a loooong while....in YOUR opinion....why do you think that is?

As a sub/slave myself, I have my own persnal opinion...that is that they have too many restrictions....in my opinion they should be and act sub/slave....which means that they should expect their limits to be expanded instead of being a definate.

When I was single and made up my mind that I definately 'needed' and 'wanted' a Master....I did NOT have a list of HARD limits.....i always believed that limits with a compassionate, caring and loving Master can always be expanded...its all a part of the leanring curve to be a sub/slave.

Maybe I was naive.....BUT maybe I wasnt....I have now the most wonderful, loving, adoring, romantic, passionate Master one could EVER wish for and truth be told......it didnt take long for me to find him!....His profile said it in spades to me.......since then....I have read many, many Dominant profiles.....and so many men are genuine here!.....it makes me wonder if the subby women really have no idea what they want....I am on the side of the Dominant men...not the subby women who if they were GENUINELY looking for a Dominant man...they would do ALMOST ANYTHING for them.
(i wont bother replying to sub women....i am not interested in your opinions)


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Now, to respond to your point...

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No where in asking for a specific groups opinions does it make any other groups opinions less unless it is phrased that way in the request. "I do not want to hear from any stupid submissives on this" would be an obvious antagonistic statement. "I would like to hear the Master's perspective on this point". This is not rude.


That is exactly what the OP did, started out being antagonistic from the beginning. The OP attempted to pit the "Masters" against the "subby women" in an attempt to make herself look better than all the rest. She didnt care what a submissive woman's reasons may have been for being single for a long time... she merely wanted confirmation, and even approval, for her own opinion and attempted to manipulate "Masters" into agreeing with her.

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 10:37:16 PM   
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I have seen one thread in the Mistress section, asking folk if it bothered them if others who don't identify as a Domme replied to posts there.  It was some time ago and, in My opinion, it didn't go over very well.  I suppose there's no feeling of us having to piss on our territory to mark it.
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I may be wrong, but I think that's more of a guy thing.

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RE: Having the right vs being in the right (Rant) - 9/10/2010 10:40:51 PM   
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OP, why don't you just agree to disagree 

This is what I think.......does anyone else here get the feeling that the OP is trying to Dom us all? Trouble is, none of us (on either side of the kneel) are His submissives.

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