MastrVran
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ORIGINAL: Lockit There have been many times when someone has demanded that only one group of people respond to a thread. I respected the request. Then there were many times when they came in roaring like some superior being in their own mind, slashing at another group and pushing their cyber weight around. Then I have rolled my eyes and watched, or I have jumped in with something I wished to impart or say because I had a response, right or wrong I don't care, but a response that I desired to give for a reason I felt worthy. Reasonable. quote:
I feel that if you come to a place where people gather, in person or not and start a ruckus, with most often an agenda of starting a ruckus, people can walk away or join in. How they join in could be seen as right or wrong, reactionary or inflammatory, which could be seen as immature or something awful. Which right overrides the other, what is right and fair? Do we have to be right or fair in all situations? Do all situations matter? Depends on what you mean by right or fair. Now should we always be polite. Perhaps as Patrick Swaze said in Roadhouse, You are to be Polite until I decide not to be Polite. At times, it becomes impossible to be Polite when others make politeness impossible by their actions. Yet a simple request is not polite or impolite. Its asking for something specific. Now it could possibly be impolite if it is phrased using derogatory words or comments. But that then negates politemess. quote:
In person I saw a man who was fighting with another man. Now from where I come from, you typically let the two men duke it out. Yet, when one man has chosen to walk away and the other comes behind him with a tree branch... I guess it is time for me to jump in there and I did. It wasn't my business, but at a certain point I feel it becomes my business. Interesting story and it deals with you acting "in the right" to protect someone. Would your story be right though if one guy just beat the crap out of that other guy and was about to kill him and as a last ditch effort the other guy managed to grab a branch on the ground, was about to knock the guy beating him to death off him and you stepped on the branch? Its all in what is happening at times that define right or wrong. quote:
There have been times when physical violence wasn't a factor and yet I felt emotional violence was a factor. The unfair bashing of people that might have a reaction to the things said as they were very out of line. In person or on a message board, whether they wanted input or not, I felt protective and being a part of the group allowed (funny word there) to speak, I spoke! I decide what is right and fair in my life and generally live my life so that I am seen as fair and wanting to do the right thing. Yet, there is a time when I feel no one can dictate what is allowed in their free expression by disallowing any reaction to it. Fuck them. When people ask for politeness or make requests to abuse or misues something or someone, they have violated any right to politeness. If though at the start thay make a simple request, and post something reasonable hoping for one type of response, being polite should not be an issue or a problem. quote:
Because someone has the right to walk into a group of people and dictate what is expected, doesn't negate the rights of others to respond to it. It isn't respectful to start with, to limit what people are allowed to say in self expression. Well now here I disagree in that asking for a type of response is not in and of itself disrespectful. Any more than asking a specific question is disrespectful. quote:
Two of my favorite stories in life came about in defending someone a group felt wrong and because they had the right didn't mean I felt they had a right and I took my rights to defend someone who was the underdog and whom the majority felt they could harass day after day. When it happened in front of me, I went off. Because these fuckers were called on what they were doing and because I was so good at physically backing up what I thought right and willing to stand up to a crowd, those two young men became friends and were never harassed again. One was a boy who had polio as an infant and had disabilities and the other was a straight guy and damn fine looking, who they said was gay. Right or wrong by the standards of whom? I will do what I do and either sleep at night or not and answer for myself. Someone imposing something, including me, will have to face their sleep pattern on their own, but to become anal about right and wrong about such little things as ego and right's of someone's self imposed right to impose something... naw, I am not losing any sleep over it. Here you seem as usual to be acting in good ways as most would feel. Yet comparing people assaulting or attacking others and someone asking for certain types of replies just is not comparable. However since this is just about politeness, I would not expect you to lose any sleep either way. MV
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