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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

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ORIGINAL: MastrVran

Or is there some secret thread limit I am not aware of and we must keep threads down to some number. (joke)

Well you might think it a joke, but in reality there *is* an unspoken limit-to start an identical thread would be a much bigger violation of forum etiquette. Think about it: if one poster starts duplicate threads in different forums asking the same question but with a different request for answering viewpoints, the Mods delete all but one of the threads. Why should it be different if *two* people start identical threads?

It would be much ruder to the Mods (and to anyone who doesn't want to follow two threads on the same subject, but wants all the information in one place) if I were to follow your suggestion. Again, why are you placing politeness to the OP above politeness to the Mods and to other users?

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Now if it is too much trouble for you to read two seperate threads, then perhaps to you that is rude?

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ORIGINAL: Twoshoes

Sometimes people do start a new thread for the other perspective.

Personally, I just politely apologize for not being the target audience, give my perspective, get thanked 20% of the time for my contribution.
My advice in the "Dealing with someone chaotic and free spirited" topics is better than people I don't understand.

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ORIGINAL: MastrVran

First off I am suggesting that Politeness is something that once was normal. Now its at the best the exception. I do like how you make me rude to Mods by suggestion someone start a thread where all are welcome to reply. Also I never suggested going into other forums. Now if it is too much trouble for you to read two seperate threads, then perhaps to you that is rude? I can accept you feel that way. I see it as both parties being polite. The poster gets their wish and you get your replies. Seems fair.

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

It's not that I couldn't start a new thread Vran... it's just that I don't perceive the need. What's going on here is that your perception of politeness and mine aren't entirely aligned. In such cases, I find no problem drawing from the larger community standards which in this case are clear. God knows I don't post on such threads to be an ass. I try hard to avoid threads wherein my input is likely to be unhelpful (most threads on the mistress or gorean boards for instance and pretty much every thread involving some detailed kink).

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

The VAST majority of posters stay out of these boards.

The Gorean section more than any other seems to be largely left to itself. That may be because it seems almost no one here can post in less than 7 large paragraphs. Or it may be because they don't understand or care to.


Either way, this rant is a Fail.

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

The VAST majority of posters stay out of these boards.

The Gorean section more than any other seems to be largely left to itself. That may be because it seems almost no one here can post in less than 7 large paragraphs. Or it may be because they don't understand or care to.


Either way, this rant is a Fail.

Pssst, Floofy, you know we're in Ask A Master, right?

....right?

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff
[...]That may be because it seems almost no one here can post in less than 7 large paragraphs. Or it may be because they don't understand or care to.

Either way, this rant is a Fail.

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

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ORIGINAL: MastrVran

First off I am suggesting that Politeness is something that once was normal. Now its at the best the exception. I do like how you make me rude to Mods by suggestion someone start a thread where all are welcome to reply. Also I never suggested going into other forums. Now if it is too much trouble for you to read two seperate threads, then perhaps to you that is rude? I can accept you feel that way. I see it as both parties being polite. The poster gets their wish and you get your replies. Seems fair.

I'm not making 'you' rude to the mods, I'm stating that your suggestion would involve a breach of etiquette, which would be rude. Starting a duplicate thread is rude. You might not like that, but it's the truth-you are forcing the Mods to watch two threads instead of one, you are forcing users to check back and forth between two threads, and you are forcing a different topic of the front page of the forum by taking up the space.

Thinking about it, starting a thread demanding only one point of view in response also seems rude. Would you walk up to a group of people in public and demand that only the men in that group interact with you, for instance? Of course you wouldn't-that would be terribly disrespectful.

So why is it ok on a forum? You talk about the decline of manners-I think posters demanding that a section of the forums not respond to them is just as much a part of that as anything else.

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ORIGINAL: MastrVran

Interesting veiwpoint. In public asking a large part to be silent would indeed be rude. However I have heard all my life people saying to the group, ok for this question lets just hear the guys point of veiw. Usually there was no issue, or the women asking for it, or children go to your room, this is for the adults to talk about. Usually it was followed by a different threaddiscussion where the women or men got their say.

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I do like how somehow having two competing threads is somehow forcing people to read either of them. if you want to follow a thread badly enough, they will follow them. If not they will ignore them and the thread dies.

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As for asking for some to abstain from replying, since their opinions will not be from the perspective wanted, I do not see that as impolite, rather than as just trying to keep it focused on what was desired.

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I certainly did notice that. Yet if it turns out that doing something a different way was better or would have been better, does it invalidate a request to do it differently?

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ORIGINAL: MastrVran

First off let me say this, I would hope, no Moderator should feel the need to come in and say according to CM policy anyone, everyone and their mother can make any post anywhere anytime. Thats a given. People have the right to post as they please so long as it is within the allowed way.

With that said, I am noticing a trend where someone says I want a specific perspective from just one type of personality. A Master, a slave, a Mistress or whatever followed by a slew of people, who are not the type requested, who just HAVE to post their own answer. You know what? They have the right.

Having the right though does not mean you are "In the right". What ever happened to people who respected someones wishes? Oh that doesnt matter, "I HAVE THE RIGHT!!!" What is that? some battle cry of the Poor Oppressed? In some way asking to just get a particular opinion viewpoint makes your life less by asking not to see your opinion?

In the past people had the right to tell others...go to the back of the bus, don't drink from that water fountain, yours is around back, no you cannot eat here. They had the right. The law supported them. Is this the same as that? Of course not, other than it is the same answer people give when they want to do something which is supported by some law or rule but which is really not the "Right" answer. Oh I know most of those whose opinions just have to be included will not admit to this as being correct because by Golly they have "THE RIGHT". Yes they do. No one argues that you do not have the right. You have the right to be rude. To ignore peoples requests. To step on peoples feelings. To force yourself on others in an online forum even if asked not to. Collar me gave you that Right with its rules.

Now as said, we can always do what is allowed even if it is not the polite thing to do. People seem to feel being polite is no longer worth while. Or maybe just they really do not give a crap because they have to show through their posts just how their opinion could not have been lived without. I do not know. Perhaps I just miss the times when people were not just impressed with having the right, but also wanted to be "in the right".

Perhaps thats just me? And yes this is just my opinion. It is not a fact or written in stone lol. Just something I decided to comment on. Oh and everyone is asked to reply. Please feel free.

MV