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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 2:14:52 PM

alwayshis

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thinking if she is so 'foolish' to even consider this, and to give someone after 2 days a password, does she even belong in a site seeking. perhaps better advise then running from this man, is to not talk to any men online, and either go back to reading more about submission, or going to a local function, where she can be introduced to reality. moving to a man you have never met in 2 days is not reality, its insanity to even consider it.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 2:17:55 PM

quietWonder

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wow sounds like a fast train to hell imho, although i have experienced the same chit out there. it happens all too often, 'pack your bags and git on the next plane to ...........' 'I demand this of you'...

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 2:22:27 PM

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To compile two comments from two women that have already commented that I have come to respect and enjoy their responses.......Oh fucking hell no!!!!!!!!! 1st of all any sane adult that would even consider the actions she is considering needs smacked upside the head and a "Snap oudavit!!!!!" that is just asking to be a police report! 2nd of all any dominant that would expect such a thing is just a total MORON! what the hell are you thinking man????

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 2:25:54 PM

fyreredsub

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a burning belly can be a girls downfall....
LA told this one a thousand times be around 6 months before you get involved , of course, this one didnt listen....
but OMG
waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy too fast to make such major changes and move
go slow, know who you are getting involved with....
your belly will get fed in due time

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 2:26:45 PM

feastie

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Any person considering such an action with someone they met online two days ago is no submissive and clearly not in a position to be making her own decisions.

Any person demanding someone they met online two days ago to give up her job and move to him is no dominant and clearly not in a position to be interacting with women, period.

Little girl, you change your phone number, your email, your profile and whatever else needs changing to protect yourself from this idiot, you keep your job and you find yourself a good counselor who can help you sort through why you would even consider such a thing.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 2:44:01 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

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ORIGINAL: MrMister
What I fear more than all else is the fact that the person in question fails to see this very clear thing for herself!

I tend to agree here.
Please don't get me wrong when I say...
I really don't see the need for us all to babysit the fools.

There is an insurmountable difference between a newbie trying to get a grasp on the terminology and concepts of the lifestyle, learning about their inner desires, learning how those things play out with another, dynamics, and health/safety/techniques of the trade
and
a newbie who is so blind to reality that they gleefully and with no regard to danger, waltz into situations that can jeopardize themselves and others.
The first I am willing to assist. The second I have a hard time finding any amount of sympathy for.

Would this woman have walked up to a stranger at the stadium and moved in after the first hello?

Although the "Dom" in question here may be a predator, I really have a difficult time seeing the woman as a victim. Why is she so blase about handing over her life to a complete stranger? Why is she willing to leave her job to shack up with someone she's never met? I have a hard time buying that anyone in this day and age could really be so sheltered from the world that they put total trust in everyone they meet. Especially if they have the internet. No one can be so blind as to know that we don't take candy from strangers. It's a very basic concept that most learned at a very young age.

If she is really that unconcerned about her own wellbeing, why should I care anymore than she does?

...Sorry, I have to fully agree with Proprietrix here.My feelings are this post will do very little to influence said submissive/slave from her course of action.One can only hope for her well-being.I will just add just in case she actually pays attention IMO.......HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...be well Tempting

Glad you two said it before me... my words would of been more harsh..... and i'm in no mood to be slammed for being straight forward in what i'm thinking about this subject.... so i'll just agree with these two and let it go at that....Thanks Tempt.... and more thanks Proprietrix.......

Edited to add.... Damn good to see you again Erin.... you've been missed dearly....I for one am glad to see you posted. Hope recovery is going well for you... hugssssssssssssss............ now back to your regularly scheduled postings....

< Message edited by truesub4u -- 4/23/2006 2:52:14 PM >

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 2:45:51 PM

MistressDiane

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I agree that anyone that comes across this kind of so called "dominant" should run like hell....but I also have to ask myself, considering what sorta state her mind must be in to even consider such a thing, shouldn't they be running like hell from her too?

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 2:56:07 PM

MstrFury

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I could add my half pennies worth...but I feel it's to no avail....in my years in this life I've seen this happen more times than I'd want to remember....anyone speaking againt such a union...in most cases are looked at as just trying to block another from true happiness...therefore...caution isn't a byword for someone so needy...the events that will transpire will be of the course taken by those involved...I just hope and pray this doesn't end in harm to the party who wishes this life so much...

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 2:57:23 PM

MasterRenegade77

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Just a short update, she has been reading All your Posts here, she deleted her Profile & is stepping back...
I just talked to her on the phone awhile ago...
I'm not making excuses for her but I can understand where she was at... she was "raised" as a slave, her father gave her to her only master when she was 19 she's 29 now... From what I was told she was taught that she had no worth other than to serve & obey a Master... her first master just used her & threw her away about 3 mo. ago & she's been lost... she's "VERY" submissive & retiring I think that she demured to the first truly Commanding person she heard from...
I believe that people come into your Life for a Reason, a Season or a Lifetime, I guess I was sent to her for a Reason...
I will Thank God in My Prayers...

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 3:09:52 PM

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So perhaps she is not a natural sub at all, but perhaps brainwashed or braindamaged into it? If so, she will be wise to take some extended time to recuperate, if recuperation is at all possible.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 3:42:25 PM

LadyMorgynn

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I've run into a few such. Maybe she needs to find a guardian then, to stand as buffer between her and the world and help to guide her in finding a new owner.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterRenegade77

Just a short update, she has been reading All your Posts here, she deleted her Profile & is stepping back...
I just talked to her on the phone awhile ago...
I'm not making excuses for her but I can understand where she was at... she was "raised" as a slave, her father gave her to her only master when she was 19 she's 29 now... From what I was told she was taught that she had no worth other than to serve & obey a Master... her first master just used her & threw her away about 3 mo. ago & she's been lost... she's "VERY" submissive & retiring I think that she demured to the first truly Commanding person she heard from...
I believe that people come into your Life for a Reason, a Season or a Lifetime, I guess I was sent to her for a Reason...
I will Thank God in My Prayers...

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 3:48:15 PM

LadyMorgynn

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Ah... I've run into this kind of slave before. You know, I rescue cats and ferrets, giving them a loving foster home until their new parents come to adopt them, and I started thinking someone needed to set up some foster homes for released/abandoned slaves of the kind you describe, give them a structured setting and someone to watch over them and monitor them while they find a new owner, and make sure they don't fall into the hands of the users/abusers. Something of the sort has already been proposed over on realslavery and I think it's a terrific idea. I don't know if anyone has already done this somewhere... does anyone know?

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 3:54:34 PM

Proprietrix

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn

Ah... I've run into this kind of slave before. You know, I rescue cats and ferrets, giving them a loving foster home until their new parents come to adopt them, and I started thinking someone needed to set up some foster homes for released/abandoned slaves of the kind you describe, give them a structured setting and someone to watch over them and monitor them while they find a new owner, and make sure they don't fall into the hands of the users/abusers. Something of the sort has already been proposed over on realslavery and I think it's a terrific idea. I don't know if anyone has already done this somewhere... does anyone know?

Shadowfind, a BDSM Bed & Breakfast in Niles, Michigan used to serve as a shelter of sorts for abused slaves/subs.
Last I heard, they (like every other frickin lifestyle thing in the midwest) had closed down.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 4:11:38 PM

OnyxGoddess

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wow...two days? it took me that long to get my photo approved on collarme. GIRLFRIEND just say NO! and i agree with someone else..RUN. FAST and FAR. This person can't be too good for you mentally, physically or emotionally. Listen to reason if nothing else. You're turning your life upside down for someone you've never even met in person or had a phone conversation with.---My two cents.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 4:12:15 PM

crouchingtigress

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She is cruising for a bruising...

Please girl if you are reading this, rethink some basic points. even if he is prince charming incarnate he still has uprooted you from your life. Your friends, Your job and your family. Starting new somewhere else is always hard, but starting over with out knowing anything about the fellow you are moving in with is well, nuts.

In his desperation to collar and control you he shows himself as not being very even headed, and if he is given to such extreme flights of fancy then he maybe just as easily able to wake up one day and kick you out and decide to be a monk.

And that is a good scenario in my opinion. The bad scenarios end up on shows like forensic files.

Would you get a tattoo this fast? Babies gestate for 9 months fro a reason, there is much mental and physical preparation involved in such a total change of ones life.

< Message edited by crouchingtigress -- 4/23/2006 4:13:07 PM >

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 4:35:06 PM

RiotGirl

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quote:

Come on, admit it! You want to slap her upside the head as much as the rest of us do, and that means you care. You know you do :)

(even if it wasnt directed to me) i cant not see the desire to do so. Were you ever, almost ignorant to the lifestyle? Personally i think she isnt able to contemplate the serious's of what she's doing. Your response reminds me alot of when i was learning, with little to go on r/l experience. The reactions i would get. One chick, Whtp, i used to drive her nuts. Oooooh and i never put out a question (it was a chat room) with her around. i'd get her hopping mad. She was sure i'd end up dead or in some terrible circumstance. Never understood it. Generally i ignored her and anyone else like her. They were mean, i dont listen to mean ppl.

Granted now i understand, but sometimes you just have no clue what your walking head on into.

Edited to add - aaah so she's not new, she knows nothing else

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 4:39:45 PM

LuckyAlbatross

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterRenegade77

Just a short update, she has been reading All your Posts here, she deleted her Profile & is stepping back...
I just talked to her on the phone awhile ago...
I'm not making excuses for her but I can understand where she was at... she was "raised" as a slave, her father gave her to her only master when she was 19 she's 29 now... From what I was told she was taught that she had no worth other than to serve & obey a Master... her first master just used her & threw her away about 3 mo. ago & she's been lost... she's "VERY" submissive & retiring I think that she demured to the first truly Commanding person she heard from...
I believe that people come into your Life for a Reason, a Season or a Lifetime, I guess I was sent to her for a Reason...
I will Thank God in My Prayers...

I'm afraid that

- being raised as a slave
- being taught that her only worth is to be used as a slave
- being "very" submissive and retiring

still doesn't add up to making ridiculous choices and not being able to take care of yourself. She's still responsible for herself and her choices.

We all like to say that being a slave, being submissive and blah blah blah doesn't mean someone is weak and unable to handle things. That post right there is pretty much saying "She's submissive and was raised submissive and therefore IS weak and unable to handle herself."

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 4:51:43 PM

Wulfchyld

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MasterRenegade77,

I am going to attempt to articulate my thoughts without the intent of offending anyone. If you find offence, none was intended.

I am here for a slave. I enjoy bondage, discipline, submission, and dominance. I am not a sadist, per se, and not seeking a masochist. I have some pretty serious kink when it comes to sex, however my proclivities are M/s 24/7 relationship.

For some one to abuse, deceive, and manipulate a slave is highly offensive to me. Finding a woman with a good slaves heart that is searching for a M/s 24/7 relationship is a difficult journey. I am on the WWW because it is worldwide. I don’t have to omit or tailor my interests to suite anyone and really don’t expect anyone to do the same for me. The world is a big place and I am sure she is out there and has the same wants, needs, and desires I do.

How someone could consider a slave as not to be worthy of love, compassion, care, etc … is well beyond me. You are receiving someone into your life that is obedience very soul and submitting his/her life to you without strings, tricks, or an agenda that works against you. For me that is SO appealing. It is an end to head games and trickery. He/she says her I am and this is all me. Cards are on the table and eyes are wide open. How could you not love such a creature?

I believe the slave is worthy of trust and it doesn’t necessarily have to be earned, yet can easily be lost. That will and can be discerned online, on the phone, or in person. From the posts in the forums I believe the general consensus is that most are here because they appreciate the honesty, trust, and candor of this lifestyle and would not go back to vanilla games.

I live. I mean really live. If it strikes my fancy I go do it. I talk to people in the Vanilla world and they listen to things I have done, seen, or want to do and they think I live in a fantasy world. Fair enough, perhaps it is a fantasy world but it does not stop me from going and doing what others read, dream, or fantasize about. There is nothing beyond my reach; the world is in my grasp. I just adhere to the path that makes it happen. This place is a path for me to grasp the girl I want in my life. It is a pity that there exists predators that can, and will, take advantage of such a special girl as you are advocating here in this forum.

I would like to take this moment to point out to the sub/slaves. Your worth is beyond measure. I do hope you find the one(s) who understands this and can make you feel it every moment, every day.

Respectively
Loki

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 5:02:31 PM

OnyxGoddess

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Loki...i'm almost in tears. It was a very eloquent thought. And you're right-abuse of a slave who is so willing is just absolutely uncalled for and mean. My husband is a cuckold and enjoys being humiliated and degraded. But it is at HIS request and when I feel I've gone to far I make it right. For her master to just abandon her after 10yrs is cold and for a parent to make thier child feel like they are nothing is WORSE. I hope that if my children decide to be in the lifestyle that they are loving and caring dom/mes -subs/slaves...whichever they choose and that their partners show them the same love.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 5:05:31 PM

masterdeltafire

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*Chokes on coffee reading the first post of this. Two days???? Ok, I know I am good on not passing judgement on people, but the dom needs his head examined for one... He didn't break the record that has stood for 10 years on collaring and doing this (that one was under 2 hours on a girl like this.. needless to say damn near killed the Dom back then in more ways than one). I am not passing judgement without knowing all of the details on Him, but personally, I would tag him as a predator and blacklist him.

*Calms back down from wanting to sharpen claws on certain areas of the Person in question's sensitive areas.

Now back to the girl in question.

Without knowing all of the background, and from what I have read, would assume Gorean.. If that is indeed the case, or a close kissing cousin, it is going to take a lot of time and patience to help her out on this. As others who have dealt with ones like her, and Ive gotten to clean up more than a few messes, I would recommend someone she knows and knows very well bringing her under their protection. This would NOT be a collar of ownership, more like a collar of protection.

***Brief moment while he smacks the computer for posting pre-maturely: ***

The collar would bring her for example under Renegade's protection, since she knows and trusts him. This will give her the security of the collar, and also keep her safe and from being preyed on. She would divert all decisions to Renegade for the moment, with the understanding it is temporary while things get sorted out with her.   Since she has been trained total obedience and not to say no to a Dom in any way shape or form, most likely she has been badly abused. The old lead with the whip, break the girl to the point where she is totally helpless. The psychological brainwashing of sorts that unfortunately some still follow. She was in this position for a long time, and now that she has been released cannot make decisions, and also needs to feel the security of the collar. She is lost without it. She needs to feel the control and guidence otherwise she cannot function. In either case, it will take months if not years to rehabilitate her back into the normal Lifestyle.

She has to relearn how to make safe decisions, relearn everything, that it is ok to say no and not be punished, that she is worth something and not a doormat and a mindless girl who will obey or be punished. All of it will take time.

My compliments to Renegade for getting her out and talking reason to her and for being there for her. *Tips cap for that.

In essense she has to be de-programmed back to a point where she can function on her own and do things. It is a long and gradual process.. She needs to be rebuilt both esteem wise and also that she is a human being and not a doormat or mindless beast. If it is not done, then the problem Renegade stopped will keep going. Hence the collar of protection to give her that safety cushion while everything is worked out.

I would be willing to lend a hand if need be on advice and help. I have dealt with many of these cases over the years. Perhaps two heads are better than one on this on the experience to help her the best way possible and to have the best outcome.

Again, my compliments and respect Renegade for getting her out before she got hurt or killed. If you need any advice or help on this, the door is open on the mailbox.

Delta

Edit fixed to be mroe readable. One of my settings got messed up. so sorry all.

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