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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 5:07:47 PM

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Loki,

This is perhaps the most honest and most touching posts it's been my pleasure to read here. Thank you for sharing it.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 5:16:04 PM

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No offence taken Bro, I feel exactly as You do this is why I stepped in & posted this thread to show her that others would think the same as I told her I did...
I wish We lived closer As I'm sure We'd be Famous Friends!!!

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 5:25:39 PM

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Sorry all on the long paragraphs. for some reason my forum codes are messed up and not sure how to fix it.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 5:41:01 PM

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Thank you all. I try to keep my profile shallow, but this one struck a cord.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 5:47:30 PM

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Tis one struck a chord too. Lost count at how many cases of this I have seen over the years. It never ceases to amaze me how many people think they can do this to someone without taking into account they are human beings, and should be loved, not abused.

These people who do this to one need to be shot pure and simple... Or at the very least given a full dose of what it feels like.

Renegade, you have a email. I would be happy to lend a hand on this if needed.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 5:55:50 PM

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Again, my compliments and respect Renegade for getting her out before she got hurt or killed. If you need any advice or help on this, the door is open on the mailbox.

I thought Renegade only knows this sub from online? She got herself out, just like she got herself in.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 6:07:13 PM

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Loki,

The touching eloquence of that post is an excellent indicator of what a wonderful person you seem to be. Thank you for sharing that with us.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 6:07:54 PM

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Anyone got any hushpuppies? (yes... this is sarcasm for those that don't reconize it)

Edited to add.... at Owned's pressure... to let you know LA... this isn't towards you... I used fast reply... LOL...

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 6:22:43 PM

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Loki,

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.

Few can put to words what they mean..You did so beautifully

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 6:28:01 PM

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She got herself out, because Renegade talked some sense into her, showed her that most of the people here had the same reaction and took the same stance that he had already told her, and then gave her the support she (clearly) needed to make the right decision.

Whatever one's opinion of how this young woman *should* be, the fact is that she is obviously in a very bad space right now, and needs all the support that anyone wants to give her. I for one can't just walk away with a callous shrug and let her sink or swim and consider it her own damned fault if she sinks. Not if I can say or do anything in the way of lending a helping hand.

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I thought Renegade only knows this sub from online? She got herself out, just like she got herself in.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 6:34:23 PM

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She got herself out, because Renegade talked some sense into her, showed her that most of the people here had the same reaction and took the same stance that he had already told her, and then gave her the support she (clearly) needed to make the right decision.

So is she better off because she's doing something because someone else tells her it's better just because we think Renegade has better intentions and ability?

Until she's making choices because she's decided they are best for herself, until she makes choices based on a sense of security and self-reliance- she's still doing the same thing she's always done.

Until she starts doing things for herself, rather than for a sense of approval, there's really no improvement.

Renegade doing things for her really isn't any better of a place to be than this "other cyber dom" doing things for her.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 6:46:41 PM

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OK, here is My opinion---

he is a F-A-K-E-R---

repeat after Me---"Dear Dom wannabe---I am so enthralled that you wish to own me--I have but 3 words to say: " Fuck off idiot".

Will that work?

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 7:04:57 PM

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You need to read deeper into what I said.

She would rely on him, to keep her safe, starting by making the decisions for her, as it has been in the past with her. Then she would slowly be weened off it, until she has some of her independance. In essense re-training her and de-programming her.

And callous opinions, she got herself into this she gets herself out when she is totally defenseless right now, sadden and anger the holy hell out of me. Whether she asked for the abuse or not that was sone and mental conditioning is a moot point. What she needs is support and compassion, not ones saying, "she got herself into all of this from the beginning let her fend for herself."

I have dealt with ones so afraid of doing things on their own without permission to the point where they were afraid to breathe, pee, swallow, eat etc, on their own without permission and care for themselves.

Renegade on stepping in when he did was the right move whether online or not, and if she is as deep as instinct says she is, she will follow his guidence as though in person, feeling anything and everything he does with her, thinking it is real, a simple kiss, a carress, she will feel as though truely real. And yes, it is very likely she is like this.

SHe needs someone watching her.. What happens when the next fucked up moron does something like "hey little girl, go jump off a cliff, or walk in traffic naked, or in front of a train?" Or am I the only compassionate soul left in tis world who knows all too well she would obey a command like that?

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 7:13:14 PM

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Renegade doing things for her really isn't any better of a place to be than this "other cyber dom" doing things for her.

I have to agree.
Knowing her background just really hasn't done anything to change my original stance on the situation. This is a 29 year old woman we're talking about. Not an 8 year old little girl.
I was introduced to the lifestyle as a kid. I certainly don't fall for crap like that.
I still believe that she can't be sheltered to the extent that she's never heard of the concept of protecting oneself from danger. She held a job. She's got a place to live. She obviously has internet. This woman has been in the world & should have an idea of how it works.
If by chance she really does have severe issues, then by all means I hope she gets the psychological help she needs. If not, natural selection.
But then, the thought has crossed my mind more than once that maybe she was scamming Renegade in the first place.
Like I've said before, nothing that happens on my computer is gonna make me lose any sleep at night.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 7:20:11 PM

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I am pretty sure that I exist, but I do not know about all of you and the rest of the universe. Am I interacting with people on this forum, or with web-bots? I assume that all of you and the rest of the universe exist, but I do not know. I guess that makes me a bit of a solipsist. Evidence for the existence of this sub-frenzied sub in my mind is even more vague. If she does exist, I hope she gets well.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 7:22:34 PM

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 7:24:59 PM

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This person, by the description offered, is obviously not able to make choices for herself. If she has in fact "been raised as a slave" & then given to a master as a slave, she never had a chance in those 29 yrs to make choices for herself. She is not going to be able to snap into the role of an independent thinker over night.

What she needs now is just what Renegade offered her... a chance to view vast amount of opinions from complete strangers that supported his own statements to her. It shows her that he was not playing her & that his advice was not only good advice but it was of the same mindset of so many others.

She is going to have a hard time re-wiring her thought processes. In this time of transition she will need the support of others. She will need to have someone she can trust help her along with decision making... not making her choices for her but rather, help her recognize choices & guide her toward making correct choices.

I am sure that she will eventually gain a sense of confidence & in no time she will come into her own. If she has to have people from online help her in positive ways, so be it... it is definitely not a from the frying pan into the fire scenario.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 7:25:47 PM

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No, I know it also. I've run into slaves (male and female) who had been kept in slavery for so long, or conditioned so thoroughly, that they weren't able to cope very well in the real world after being abandoned or otherwise set adrift by their owners. Whether or not they "should" be able to cope on their own, the fact remains that they "are" not, and unless and until they get some help, they remain prey for predators. It takes time to pull one's act together, btw. Anyone who has suffered any depression or trauma or so forth will know that. So in the meantime this girl is left to sink or swim on her own because she is a grown woman and "should" be able to deal.

I guess on that basis we don't need any battered women's shelters or organizations, either. After all, these woman are grown and should be able to just walk out and start a new life all by themselves, so we certainly don't need to give them any support; if they can't do it by themselves that's just too bad, 'cause they outta be able to.

Personally, I emailed Renegade privately to offer my assistance/support, since apparently it's such a crime here to feel concern for someone over legal age.

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SHe needs someone watching her.. What happens when the next fucked up moron does something like "hey little girl, go jump off a cliff, or walk in traffic naked, or in front of a train?" Or am I the only compassionate soul left in tis world who knows all too well she would obey a command like that?

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 7:30:56 PM

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I guess on that basis we don't need any battered women's shelters or organizations, either. After all, these woman are grown and should be able to just walk out and start a new life all by themselves, so we certainly don't need to give them any support; if they can't do it by themselves that's just too bad, 'cause they outta be able to.

If we were talking about people who knew and were interacting with eachother offline, my perspective would be quite different.

The fact is that no one knew anyone except from online. In fact the only information we have is from a single online source. This is a complete cyber situation. And I just can't take solely cyber drama situations seriously.

If she needs help, she should get it- OFFLINE. I see no reason why we should believe that Renegade is any better of a choice of people to help her than this other cyber person or any number of dozen people who contact her online.

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RE: Y/your Opinions Needed Now!!! - 4/23/2006 7:34:38 PM

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If by chance she really does have severe issues, then by all means I hope she gets the psychological help she needs. If not, natural selection.
But then, the thought has crossed my mind more than once that maybe she was scamming Renegade in the first place.

I agree, Professional help would do her some good as well.

That thought crossed my mind as well. Is this just another scam. A number of us had a brilliant idea a few years ago, we started a Safe House Network. We talked with many, many people... made connections with several other networks around the country. We assisted several people get out of some pretty nasty situations & we talked to MANY people just playing out a pathetic scam. The one most played was the " i was raised a slave & i have always been owned" scam.

Good luck with it all Renegade... if this woman is truly as you have described, I admire your intent to help her. If she is playing a game, I'm hopeful you don't get played. It would be horrible to have such admirable intentions taken advantage of.

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