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subtoFemDommes -> RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the Pentagon? (4/25/2006 8:43:31 AM)
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which in My humble opinion, would mean piles of rubble OUTSIDE the building, versus the paper bag theory--and uhm where is the FAA report in the search for the black box?
One last thought, thousands of gallons of jet fuel would cause a flash fire igniting the entire area around the building and send it as a ball of flame deep inside---hmmmm where are the pictures of that? We saw that at the Twin Towers, but none at the Pentagon?
IMHO, if anyone thinks we are above conspiracy, please--if anyone thinks we didn't know ahead---please--the world is based on two things, money and control--money and control buy everything.
Sorry Ma'am; the black boxes were recovered as was substantial debris. The conspiracy theorists just raise the leading questions about "why hasn't/didn't" or make wild speculations about what would or wouldn't be logical without any scientific testing, just analogous inference.
Speculation on what would or would not have happened in such an event is useless, whether as to the debris field or the effect of the fuel in a specific structure, but that's what makes the conspiracy theorists rich -- they can speculate and infer and ask leading questions forever.
To refute their illogical, unsubstantiated blather takes painstaking, incredibly detailed work and the people who are capable of doing that really don't spend their lives refuting conspiracy theorists. They are people with much more productive things to do. Not to mention, if I claim that there are people on Venus because "obviously it reflects too much light and there are cities under the cloud cover generating it" I can go on forever pointing to every logical refutation of that as some sort of "conspiracy to keep the truth from people" and also infer a million underlying benefits to the conspirators. They on the other hand have to refute me with a trip to Venus and even then, I'll say they faked the trip and threatened and cajoled and paid off all of the people who had to participate in the faking. etc., etc., etc,. ... it's why you never can win this sort of argument, you can only offer facts until you loose interest.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html
How many people would believe that if I can shoot you when you're under 3 feet of water with a .45 caliber bullet moving at 775 feet per second and maim or kill you, that a .50 caliber bullet, weighing from a little to twice as much and moving at 5 times the speed would essentially be useless in shooting at something under 3 feet of water. That was an old "myth" about supersonic bullets, but until the Mythbusters proved it to be true (of every supersonic round tested) it was just a myth. No one had actually invested the time and money to prove it. So there, we have a myth substantiated, but only by scientific method.
I use the ballistics example because I've had decades of research in the field; an expert I know has both participated in some of the landmark tests in the field and is abreast of every new one that comes out and what it's taught both him and me is, what you think will happen when objects collide at high speed is useless. You will never know until you try and see.
One can make conspiracy claims and speculate all day long about anything, especially when people can be sucked in by the emotional component (which of course, the conspiracy theorists claim the conspirators use) but all of it means nothing without evidence and I've read as much of the conspiracy evidence of 9/11 as anyone can stomach, had my good friend who lives and breathes it filter it my way, and none of it stands the light of day when you actually take the time to examine the other available evidence that one has to go and look for because no one is making money or political hay touting it as some huge government conspiracy.
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Where is the passenger list? Where was the memorial service for the passengers who died? Where is the lone sister or wife or husband of a passenger who stood up and said, my xxx died on that flight, where are the claims for that plane from the enemy?
It's right here; You can call the relatives and talk to them. i'll start finding them if You'd like...
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html
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