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truckinslave -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 6:10:26 PM)

The disability received by a wounded soldier is manifestly not welfare.

Any honest thinking person knows I meant AFDC.

On the slim offchance that you are neither: by "welfare" I meant AFDC, and was referring to the millions of women who supported themselves for multiple generations by the simple expedients of having children and not identifying the fathers.




Zevar -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 7:20:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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You never know if there are bonds between the old, Irish lady from County Cork and Irish Republican Army (I.R.A.) when boarding a plane, aye!


Riiiiiight.
And the IRA uses sooooo many suicide bombers.
And blows up sooooooo many planes in flight.


http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Real-IRA-may-have-suicide-bomb-link-with-Hezbollah.html

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/italy/100824/claudy-bombing-ira-ireland-catholic-priest

http://www.irishcentral.com/story/news/periscope/juan-williams-fired-for-telling-the-truth-by-perfect-npr-105442328.html




Owner59 -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 7:32:54 PM)

Sorry Zevar,we have a horrible ignorance problem in the county.


And it`s cost us a lot of lives.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 9:51:12 PM)

FR:

So ... Juan Williams ...?

Firm




Owner59 -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 10:14:10 PM)

He can join losers Rove,Palin,Olly and G fuck`n Gordon Liddy over at fox .


Why hasn`t Rick Sanchez got`n a job at fox?


Don`t recall much from the rightists when Maher and Phil Donahue were canned.




popeye1250 -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 10:26:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

He can join losers Rove,Palin,Olly and G fuck`n Gordon Liddy over at fox .


Why hasn`t Rick Sanchez got`n a job at fox?


Don`t recall much from the rightists when Maher and Phil Donahue were canned.



Owner, because Rick Sanchez is anti-semitic. Noone's going to hire him, he wasn't that popular anyway.




Owner59 -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 10:45:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

He can join losers Rove,Palin,Olly and G fuck`n Gordon Liddy over at fox .


Why hasn`t Rick Sanchez got`n a job at fox?


Don`t recall much from the rightists when Maher and Phil Donahue were canned.



Owner, because Rick Sanchez is anti-semitic. Noone's going to hire him, he wasn't that popular anyway.

So he`s the wrong kind of bigot for fox.

<nods>




Politesub53 -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 3:28:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

The disability received by a wounded soldier is manifestly not welfare.

Any honest thinking person knows I meant AFDC.

On the slim offchance that you are neither: by "welfare" I meant AFDC, and was referring to the millions of women who supported themselves for multiple generations by the simple expedients of having children and not identifying the fathers.


I am as honest as the day is long. You are now suggesting your post, which I pulled you up on, meant something OTHER than what you typed. Where the hell is the honesty in that ?

Since you want to push it though, lets take single mothers as a single issue. Do you really think all of them knew the father of the child would not help her raise that child. Do you think that all of these women were unemployed to start with. Do you think none of them may have hit hard times for one reason or another, Or are you just going to pull your "dishonest" stance and again change the boundaries of what you "said" to what you "meant" ?




rulemylife -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 7:05:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave


On the slim offchance that you are neither: by "welfare" I meant AFDC, and was referring to the millions of women who supported themselves for multiple generations by the simple expedients of having children and not identifying the fathers.


Wow, millions.

And I'm sure you are going to provide us with the actual statistics and references to verify that any moment now.




truckinslave -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 7:57:56 AM)

The only dishonesty here is taking my post about welfare and twisting it into disapproval of the disabilities received by wounded vets.

Well, no, actually the dishonesty actually goes further. You take: "referring to the millions of women who supported themselves for multiple generations by the simple expedients of having children and not identifying the fathers" and twist that into somehow meaning that I disapprove of all AFDC payments ever made to anyone.

Nothing I said disavows the need for a temporary safety net.

If you want to talk about what I actually wrote instead of twisting it around I'd enjoy further exchange.




truckinslave -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 7:59:48 AM)

It was widely reported in the 70s that there were over a million 3rd generation AFDC recipients in NYC alone. Just pumpin out children they couldn't afford......




mnottertail -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 8:01:24 AM)

It was widely reported that we were winning the war in Vietnam about the same time.  Color me skeptical.




truckinslave -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 8:07:43 AM)

Well, yeah, actually I didn't do a nose count either.
But it's hard to say that it wasn't a national problem.




popeye1250 -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 12:24:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

He can join losers Rove,Palin,Olly and G fuck`n Gordon Liddy over at fox .


Why hasn`t Rick Sanchez got`n a job at fox?


Don`t recall much from the rightists when Maher and Phil Donahue were canned.



Owner, because Rick Sanchez is anti-semitic. Noone's going to hire him, he wasn't that popular anyway.

So he`s the wrong kind of bigot for fox.

<nods>



Huh?




switch2please -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 12:41:58 PM)

I have to say, I haven't read more than the first page of posts...but I was listening to NPR yesterday evening and of course Juan Williams came up. He was an analyst for a widely recognized news source. It is against NPR policy for their media presenters to announce opinions on other news sources that conflict with anything they might say on-air with NPR. What those opinions are, are in this case irrelevant. It was honest to admit that seeing people in traditional Muslim dress on a plane would make him nervous, but by saying so he violated the terms of his contract and was subsequently fired.
He was not fired for what he said specifically, but because the nature of his comments were not considered politically correct.




Owner59 -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 12:53:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59


quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

He can join losers Rove,Palin,Olly and G fuck`n Gordon Liddy over at fox .


Why hasn`t Rick Sanchez got`n a job at fox?


Don`t recall much from the rightists when Maher and Phil Donahue were canned.



Owner, because Rick Sanchez is anti-semitic. Noone's going to hire him, he wasn't that popular anyway.

So he`s the wrong kind of bigot for fox.

<nods>



Huh?



Ok pops,I`ll explain like I`m talking to a 5 y/o.


Fox is ok with bigotry toward Muslims but not ok with bigotry toward Jewish people.Which also describes most republicans,like rich.


No need to thank me.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 1:08:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Fox is ok with bigotry toward Muslims but not ok with bigotry toward Jewish people.Which also describes most republicans, like rich.


Damn, Owner ...

There is so much bigotry exposed in your assumptions, I hardly know where to begin ....

Firm




popeye1250 -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 1:17:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59


quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

He can join losers Rove,Palin,Olly and G fuck`n Gordon Liddy over at fox .


Why hasn`t Rick Sanchez got`n a job at fox?


Don`t recall much from the rightists when Maher and Phil Donahue were canned.



Owner, because Rick Sanchez is anti-semitic. Noone's going to hire him, he wasn't that popular anyway.

So he`s the wrong kind of bigot for fox.

<nods>



Huh?



Ok pops,I`ll explain like I`m talking to a 5 y/o.


Fox is ok with bigotry toward Muslims but not ok with bigotry toward Jewish people.Which also describes most republicans,like rich.


No need to thank me.



Owner, if I were at a Teaparty rally and there were toothless fuckers there with guns strapped onto their hips and it made me nervous and I later *said* that it made me nervous that would be bigotry? Am I not allowed to *say* that it made me nervous?




truckinslave -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 2:00:44 PM)

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Owner, if I were at a Teaparty rally and there were toothless fuckers there with guns strapped onto their hips and it made me nervous and I later *said* that it made me nervous that would be bigotry? Am I not allowed to *say* that it made me nervous?


Depends. You are allowed to say that on NPR. You are not allowed to say that on network affiliate news in WV. [;)]




popeye1250 -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/23/2010 2:07:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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Owner, if I were at a Teaparty rally and there were toothless fuckers there with guns strapped onto their hips and it made me nervous and I later *said* that it made me nervous that would be bigotry? Am I not allowed to *say* that it made me nervous?


Depends. You are allowed to say that on NPR. You are not allowed to say that on network affiliate news in WV. [;)]



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There must be some type of "manual" or "manifesto" that the Left uses! Boy, they're sure not for Free Speech are they?
I hope everyone remembers that when they go to vote.




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