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Lucylastic -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 3:17:30 PM)

Look up proxy Bombers
In late 1990 the IRA Army Council gave approval for what was to be the first of a series of proxy bomb attacks.
The plan was to kidnap a member of the British security forces or a British Army sympathiser, hold their family hostage and force the kidnapped person to take explosives to a target.

In the early hours of 24 October 1990 armed and masked IRA volunteers took the family of Patrick "Patsy" Gillespie hostage. Gillespie was a Catholic who worked as a cook for the British Army and so was seen by the IRA as a collaborator and legitimate target. The IRA forced him to drive a car loaded with 1,000 pounds of explosives to the British Army checkpoint at Coshquin on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

When he arrived at the checkpoint the bomb was detonated by remote control, killing Gillespie and five soldiers from the Kings Regiment. At Gillespie's funeral Bishop Edward Daly said the IRA and its supporters were "...the complete contradiction of Christianity.

They may say they are followers of Christ. Some of them may even still engage in the hypocrisy of coming to church, but their lives and their works proclaim clearly that they follow Satan."
no you arent just ignorant you are FUCKING ignorant
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rulemylife -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 3:20:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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Personal behavior is what causes the failure of the vast majority of people regardless of their gender, race or ethnicity.


Liberals deny that they deny the importance of personal responsibility. [:D]


No, it is conservatives that deny that problems people face should not receive any help from society at large.

You know, that personal responsibility thing.

They need to to take care of themselves, and if they can't they have no right to freeload on the rest of us.

Right Truckin?

Let them suffer and die.

More money for the rest of us.




truckinslave -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 3:21:51 PM)

Terrible about Patsy.
No planes. No suicide bomber.
Like I said.

Why does this always seem to get personal for liberals? Apart from Juan, of course [:D]




truckinslave -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 3:25:21 PM)

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They need to to take care of themselves, and if they can't they have no right to freeload on the rest of us, right Truckin?

Let them suffer and die.


A healthy man who will not work should be allowed to starve to death without government interference.




Sanity -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 3:28:46 PM)


I Googled "Muslim garb" and that was the predominant image that was returned.

You dont like it, I suggest you send Obama a nasty note.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

as longas obama is wearing it huh?
FMYAFD





Lucylastic -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 3:30:58 PM)

now if they were the only ways of getting caught and killed by a terrorist, you might have a point, but because you are a merrycan who discounts any terrorsit attack before 911 as real and the only one that counts your ignorance is showing actually its dancing nekid in the street
you dont think that kidnapping and forcing someone to kill others, themselves  is more cowardly than a suicide bomber?




Sanity -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 3:32:45 PM)

[image]http://www.bucksright.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/obama-muslim-garb-2.jpg[/image]

There was also this one... (for anyone who still isnt sure what "Muslim garb" might look like).




rulemylife -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 3:35:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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They need to to take care of themselves, and if they can't they have no right to freeload on the rest of us, right Truckin?

Let them suffer and die.


A healthy man who will not work should be allowed to starve to death without government interference.


Well, since we are only two months from Christmas:


Bowalley Road: Scrooge's Ghosts


What on earth is so "deeply concerning" about providing long-term support to such people? If you’re suffering from a temporary or chronic affliction; if you lack the resources required to look after a young family; then to whom should you appeal for assistance – if not your fellow citizens?

What would be "deeply concerning" is a society which defined sickness, invalidism and sole parenthood as self-inflicted conditions – sins which can only be expiated through the pain of social humiliation and the self-redeeming qualities of unrelenting toil.

The grim workhouses of Victorian England were erected on the flint-hard foundation of these vicious bourgeois prejudices. Deliberately constructed to terrify the poor into righteousness, they were known colloquially as "Bastilles" – after the grim Parisian fortress. So harsh were the regimes within these institutions that many risked death, rather than enter their prison-like gates.

In his celebrated 1843 novella A Christmas Carol, Dickens parodies the harshness of laissez-faire capitalism in the character of Ebenezer Scrooge. Listen to the exchange which a request for a donation to assist the poor provokes:

‘Are there no prisons?’ asked Scrooge.
‘Plenty of prisons,’ said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.
‘And the Union workhouses.’ demanded Scrooge. ‘Are they still in operation?’
‘They are. Still,’ returned the gentleman, ‘I wish I could say they were not.’
‘The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?’ said Scrooge.
‘Both very busy, sir.’
‘Oh. I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,’ said Scrooge. ‘I’m very glad to hear it.’


When pressed, Scrooge’s parsimony turns deadly:

‘I wish to be left alone,’ said Scrooge. ‘Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don’t make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned – they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there.’
‘Many can’t go there; and many would rather die.’
‘If they would rather die,’ said Scrooge, ‘they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.’




truckinslave -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 3:36:59 PM)

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you dont think that kidnapping and forcing someone to kill others, themselves is more cowardly than a suicide bomber?


The idea that Muslim bombers on their way to paradise are brave is flawed.

An atheist bomber sacrificing himself for the cause would imo be far braver.

The IRA tactic discussed strikes me as simply more intelligent, more conserving of resources, and quite possibly easier.




lockedaway -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 3:37:49 PM)

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No, it is conservatives that deny that problems people face should not receive any help from society at large.

You know, that personal responsibility thing.

They need to to take care of themselves, and if they can't they have no right to freeload on the rest of us.

Right Truckin?

Let them suffer and die.

More money for the rest of us.





Another stupid post!!!  Let's take a look at who can't take care of themselves, shall we?  Crippled veterans.  Do any of us have a problem with crippled veterans being supported by the State?  No.  People born with handicaps....serious MS....mental retardation, etc.  Does anyone have a problem with the State taking care of them?  No.  The elderly and infirmed.  Anyone have a problem?  Nahhhh.  People born with cognitive disabilities that put them at the lower end of the bell curve.  Anyone have a problem with them being supported?   Nope.

Ok.....who do we have a problem with then.  Oh...the stupid cunt that gets knocked up by five different guys?  Yeah....got a problem with that.  Sure.  In fact, all of those children should be taken by protective services.  How about the crack addict?  Yeah....got a problem with that too but thankfully, any drug conviction voids public housing in the U.S. now so it is getting better.  How about the child born of inter-generational welfare?  Yup...got a problem with him too. 

It isn't that conservatives don't see the need for certain people to receive support.  The PROBLEM for most conservatives and people who think with more than one quarter of their brain.....sorry Rule.....is that we have a HUGE number of able bodied people in this country that have never worked and receive assistance.  I just got a shit load of them thrown out of an apartment unit last year.  And let me tell you....I did the neighborhood a huge favor!







Know your enemy.  Liberals lie.  Liberals deceive.  Liberals fight against liberty and against prosperity.  Do NO business with a liberal.  Don't rent to them, don't trade with them, don't refer clients to them...nothing.  Economic warfare is the only civilized strategy.





popeye1250 -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 4:07:30 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

Personal behavior is what causes the failure of the vast majority of people regardless of their gender, race or ethnicity.


Liberals deny that they deny the importance of personal responsibility. [:D]


LOL, that's because they're buried in their lies and can't see the forest for the trees.
"Where's the forest? There's too many trees in the way!"




truckinslave -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 4:19:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

They need to to take care of themselves, and if they can't they have no right to freeload on the rest of us, right Truckin?

Let them suffer and die.


A healthy man who will not work should be allowed to starve to death without government interference.


Well, since we are only two months from Christmas:


Bowalley Road: Scrooge's Ghosts


What on earth is so "deeply concerning" about providing long-term support to such people? If you’re suffering from a temporary or chronic affliction; if you lack the resources required to look after a young family; then to whom should you appeal for assistance – if not your fellow citizens?

What would be "deeply concerning" is a society which defined sickness, invalidism and sole parenthood as self-inflicted conditions – sins which can only be expiated through the pain of social humiliation and the self-redeeming qualities of unrelenting toil.

The grim workhouses of Victorian England were erected on the flint-hard foundation of these vicious bourgeois prejudices. Deliberately constructed to terrify the poor into righteousness, they were known colloquially as "Bastilles" – after the grim Parisian fortress. So harsh were the regimes within these institutions that many risked death, rather than enter their prison-like gates.

In his celebrated 1843 novella A Christmas Carol, Dickens parodies the harshness of laissez-faire capitalism in the character of Ebenezer Scrooge. Listen to the exchange which a request for a donation to assist the poor provokes:

‘Are there no prisons?’ asked Scrooge.
‘Plenty of prisons,’ said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.
‘And the Union workhouses.’ demanded Scrooge. ‘Are they still in operation?’
‘They are. Still,’ returned the gentleman, ‘I wish I could say they were not.’
‘The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?’ said Scrooge.
‘Both very busy, sir.’
‘Oh. I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,’ said Scrooge. ‘I’m very glad to hear it.’


When pressed, Scrooge’s parsimony turns deadly:

‘I wish to be left alone,’ said Scrooge. ‘Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don’t make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned – they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there.’
‘Many can’t go there; and many would rather die.’
‘If they would rather die,’ said Scrooge, ‘they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.’


quote:

A healthy man who will not work should be allowed to starve to death without government interference.

Theres that reading comprehension/focus thing again.




truckinslave -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 4:20:39 PM)

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Oh...the stupid cunt that gets knocked up by five different guys? Yeah....got a problem with that. Sure. In fact, all of those children should be taken by protective services.


It's hard to argue against the idea that raising children on welfare isn't/wasn't child abuse.




lockedaway -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 4:31:37 PM)

You are absolutely right, it IS child abuse.  One tenant had three different children from three different fathers.  All of whom were little girls.  The mother, on welfare but being a capitalist, rented out "floor space" to migrant workers.  So in this house with 3 girls under 10 years of age were a half dozen or more migrants sleeping in the same apartment.  Did something happen to one of those little girls?  Who knows?  Who cares?  Her mom did it despite the risks until I caught her and evicted her.






Know your enemy.  Liberals lie.  Liberals deceive.  Liberals fight against liberty and against prosperity.  Do NO business with a liberal.  Don't rent to them, don't trade with them, don't refer clients to them...nothing.  Economic warfare is the only civilized strategy





Politesub53 -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 4:52:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

It's hard to argue against the idea that raising children on welfare isn't/wasn't child abuse.


Tell that to the soldiers returning home with limbs blown off, or do you consider the fact they wont be able to work child abuse. Lets just hope you and yours never get any kind of serious illness that prevents you from working.





Lucylastic -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 4:59:37 PM)

Dont be silly Polite that never happens to anyone, EVERYONE on welfare is ABUSING their children cos they want to, and deserve to be shot[8|][8|][8|][8|][8|][8|][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(]




rulemylife -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 5:08:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lockedaway

quote:

No, it is conservatives that deny that problems people face should not receive any help from society at large.

You know, that personal responsibility thing.

They need to to take care of themselves, and if they can't they have no right to freeload on the rest of us.

Right Truckin?

Let them suffer and die.

More money for the rest of us.



Another stupid post!!!  Let's take a look at who can't take care of themselves, shall we?  Crippled veterans.  Do any of us have a problem with crippled veterans being supported by the State?  No.  People born with handicaps....serious MS....mental retardation, etc.  Does anyone have a problem with the State taking care of them?  No.  The elderly and infirmed.  Anyone have a problem?  Nahhhh.  People born with cognitive disabilities that put them at the lower end of the bell curve.  Anyone have a problem with them being supported?   Nope.

Ok.....who do we have a problem with then.  Oh...the stupid cunt that gets knocked up by five different guys?  Yeah....got a problem with that.  Sure.  In fact, all of those children should be taken by protective services.  How about the crack addict?  Yeah....got a problem with that too but thankfully, any drug conviction voids public housing in the U.S. now so it is getting better.  How about the child born of inter-generational welfare?  Yup...got a problem with him too. 

It isn't that conservatives don't see the need for certain people to receive support.  The PROBLEM for most conservatives and people who think with more than one quarter of their brain.....sorry Rule.....is that we have a HUGE number of able bodied people in this country that have never worked and receive assistance.  I just got a shit load of them thrown out of an apartment unit last year.  And let me tell you....I did the neighborhood a huge favo


Okay.

Show me some facts regarding this HUGE number of able-bodied people that have never worked and receive assistance.

Keeping in mind you used the word HUGE.

I have no doubt abuse exists in the system, but not to the extent that those who want to dismantle the system maintain.

So show me.




Politesub53 -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 5:10:18 PM)

Exactly Lucy, and note its only Democrats who are lazy and abuse the system.




Lucylastic -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 5:12:39 PM)

slapping the stupid sometimes feels like so much fun, :)
Im a commie pinko so I dont count





domiguy -> RE: Juan Williams fired by NPR. (10/22/2010 5:58:00 PM)

I love these male subs that cannot even control their own dicks suggesting that they know something about how a country should be run.

Pathetic.




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