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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/23/2010 4:28:23 PM

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Women become old as they age, men become more distinguished. That's why men prefer young women but women like old men,
and they also assume they make more money.

Really? Could you let me know where you found out that a woman who likes a man who is older than his is only after his money )which I think is what you are implying. are you saying that older men have no redeeming features other than the size of their bank balance?

And as for women becoming old as they age, I am 43 and regularly get told I look in my 30's (well apart from the guy who was 30 who asked me out on a date earlier this year who thought I was younger than him ha ha). Gotta love good genes

I'm not saying the money is the only feature that attracts women to older men, it's just a single part of the spectrum, there is also something about old ugly wrinkly men who are rough around the edges that attracts women.

Also, if someone hit on you don't consider that an evidence men don't prefer younger women. Given the choice, men do tend to prefer younger female,
but a lot of times people are just lucky to be able to date any woman, so they will go out with you, but if a young hottie hits on them they are going to dump you and go out with her.

The internet tends to be populated by losers who also have much lower standards for females, than they would given the availability of other options.

And this is why the young ones are only good to look at and that's it. lol

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/23/2010 5:36:47 PM

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Didn't read whole thread.

Well, it's like this since I've had pubes, I've been attracted to some women up into what I'd gander to be in their 50's. Now in my 30's It's still the same.

Now, in my 30's I can look at an 18 year old, and say damn that is one fucking hot body, and if in some magical land to where I could simply snap my fingers and do nothing but instantly transport to a bed, fuck, and then never have to talk with her. Sure... But the problem with 18 year olds, is that they are on the general very very immature, or lacking much experience about anything of interest, so in reality I can say even though I might look at an 18 year old, I could not endure an 18 year old, therefore for me it is all window shopping.

I'm guessing I will never change in that regard, as in seeing hottness whereever it lies, but more than likely when I'm 60, a 30 year old would be unable to relate well enough to make any effort of pursuit worthwhile.

But will I perv all the ladies, that catch my eye, sure. IF that is what you mean.

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/23/2010 6:03:07 PM

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I always think that men that go for way younger women can't engage an adult female on an intellectual or sexual level.

Depends on what you mean by "go for"...

I've generally been told they like to just look... that it is in their nature to be attracted to females that appear nubile and fertile.

This is usually always accompanied by a disclaimer that there would be little or no possibility for any type of meaningful relationship due to differences in maturity, life experience, and intellectual levels.

Of course, if they had to opportunity to sexually engage with no other involvement, I suspect they'd jump at the chance.

Having spent time living in Europe, I think one of the vast differences was the appreciation for women over say mid 30's. I also have always been attracted to older men, so I don't think all men would hop in bed with a 20 year old just because they could. I know for me, I have no desire whatsoever to fuck a man under 45. Even for a one night never get caught fling.

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/23/2010 6:08:54 PM

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I always think that men that go for way younger women can't engage an adult female on an intellectual or sexual level.

Or maybe they just don't really like or appreciate the effects of time and gravity.

Interesting, is that a given? I guess I am genetically blessed then, because neither has struck yet. Like I said, a proper diet, working out, good genes, a little of that lovely botox needle and not having kids tends to keep that in check. Trust me. I don't find much appealing about a flaccid soft older man that needs a 20 minute blowjob to get off and wears his pants beneath his gut either. There are 60 year old men that look damn good, I know, I have one. He works at it though, that's the issue, laziness and bad habits don't exactly create attractive older people.

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/23/2010 6:39:44 PM

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I've said it before, and will happily say it again.
All my lovers are in their 20's and 30's: not for reasons of pulchritude, but because they're more comfortable with their sexuality and with women in general [IT types, misogynists and mamma's-basement-dwelling trolls aside, see above]. I date guys in their 40's and 50's, but they don't measure up, and it hasn't worked out, but I'll say 'yet'.

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/23/2010 7:56:40 PM

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Hey everyone -

I just wanted to say thank you for all the answers so far. I hope no one thought that I was judging in any way, and the variety of opinion has kind of confirmed what I thought to begin with: a lot of people are sexually attracted to under-20-year-olds, but it seems like not everyone is, and a significant portion do not intend to act on it.

For those who do, I've been more trying to figure out if that's something that everyone wants to do or if it's something that only some people want to do. And let's be honest: when I say "everyone" and "people," I mean men. It's pretty evident from this thread that women are less likely to be attracted to teenage boys than men are to teenage girls, though once people are in their 20s it seems to be much more even between the genders.

But anyway, I appreciate everyone sharing their personal perspective. Obviously there's no way to determine anything this subjective in any black and white way. I was just curious

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/23/2010 9:49:14 PM

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I consider myself more intelligent than the average peer of my age group, or a typical "bro", if you will.

Half your peers are more intelligent than your average peer.

Being able to relate to your (and other) peer group(s) is not related to Logical-Mathematic intelligence. One of my smartest friends even has terrible Interpersonal intelligence and fits in despite being demonstrably poor at picking up on nonverbal communication.

IMO, sense of superiority isn't of great social benefit. (Seriously, excessive praise is just about as bad as excessive criticism.)

Intelligence certainly doesn't make you right or guarantee good decisions. If anything, the faster you think, the faster you make mistakes given the same error rate. You need reliable error-correction algorithms.

Perhaps, a second processor of ideas?

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I tend to be objective in my views instead of flocking with the herd mentality that caters to typical self delusional sugar - coating of facts.

My own personality features a pretty high level of 'agreeableness' and 'intuitiveness' to the point where I initially get along with anyone, any age, any lifestyle. Some of the people I know literally hate each other. My view of relationships is like a bunch of sand castles to keep from the waves and repair when needed. I'm introverted, thus unwilling to do this endlessly and the sand castles I focus on tend to be less numerous but better tended than an extrovert. Call this "herd mentality", if you will, there is surely some evolutionary value to it (and many other personality variances we cannot relate to). Also, have you seen the brutal killing efficiency of a herd?

Personal example: my high school average was ~96 despite not knowing French (so I did all tests with a dictionary). I couldn't be witty in French.

Despite these limitations, my younger age and my not-so-well-hidden sensitive personality, I have never been bullied in school. A tiny herd would always show up to help set people straight.

Don't be so quick to devalue what you do not understand.

Now, this thread is a theoretical wall of rejection for someone our age. A year ago, I would have felt insecure. However, outward perceptions of me, aren't going to influence my internal motivations or contentment

. Plus, who doesn't want to get rejected for having too little wrinkles?

Yes, please.

I have a strong sense of responsibility, "active listening" and negotiation skills and get highs from control and sadism. Plus, I am quite specific on how and what I want and can even be outright demanding (though, I'm mostly demanding of myself and not others.) It's simply, really: I'm easygoing till it involves my personal sense of satisfaction.

I may also be one of the more sadistic people on this board, since I can potentially enjoy misery (situation depending, of course.)

P.S. Bro/Dude/Dudebro are terms of familiarity or endearment:
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"What up, dudebro?"
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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/23/2010 9:59:18 PM

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Now, this thread is a theoretical wall of rejection for someone our age. A year ago, I would have felt insecure. However, outward perceptions of me, aren't going to influence my internal motivations or contentment .

Really?? I kind of feel protective of very young adults, which is why the argument with my friend started in the first place. You take that as a rejection, Twoshoes? Of course, this is coming from a 26-year-old, so I'm not exactly old enough to be protective of anybody. But you seeing the rejection angle of it is surprising to me, and makes me even more curious.

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/23/2010 10:45:20 PM

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I've been having a disagreement with someone over a very sticky subject (I suppose that's subjective - it's just sticky for me, probably) and I thought I'd see what the general forum thinks. It's a bit biased to ask in a BDSM setting, but I figure it's a good starting point because if anyone is going to be honest about it, BDSMers will be.

Are you sexually attracted to legal adults under the age of 20? Do you think everyone is, or every man is, or only certain men/women are? Is there a point at which you think you're too old to be acting on those fantasies, or even having them? Or do you think that anyone legal is fair game to sleep with?

I'm mainly asking this because I have pretty much believed that a lot of people (with the exception of those specifically into the dynamic) sort of know as they get to a certain age that very young adults are sort of off limits and don't even really find it appropriate to be thinking of them in that way, but it's been brought to my attention that I may be awfully naive I'd love to be set straight on this, if it's an obvious truth, or I'd love for someone to confirm my belief that not everyone is attracted to very young adults.

By the way, please notice that I've said legal adults. I'd really appreciate it if no one gets the thread pulled by mentioning anyone who is not a legal adult.

Under 20? God no. What the hell would you *talk* to them about? Even people in their twenties wouldn't interest me, what have they actually done in life? Probably nothing, they haven't had time to.

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/23/2010 10:46:58 PM

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I meant the comments by submissives who've only been sexually attracted to men at least 10+ years older could be intimidating to someone initially exploring this aspect of their sexuality. (Not that I mind their preference, I just remember when I first looked.) The 35-year-olds I know are certainly in another category of "men" in my mind.

Full beards with gray strands of wisdom do not happen overnight. So, I was just reaffirming my self-belief.

I also wrote about being cautious and nearly protective around 18-year-olds and I'm also one of the youngest to respond. Perhaps, my brain needs re-"wiring".

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/23/2010 11:51:34 PM

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The internet tends to be populated by losers who also have much lower standards for females, than they would given the availability of other options.

just to clarify, the younger men who hit on me are guys I come across in real life. And the internet tends to be populated by losers? Wow for a little tacker you sure are big on the generalisations aren't you?

You do know that people can do a search of your forum posts right metatron, good luck with finding whatever it is you seek

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/24/2010 12:07:53 AM

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We're actually having a fascinating PM interaction at the moment...he's a real charmer.
Yup.

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/24/2010 5:08:32 AM

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I have never been attracted to young men, even when I was young my self. My first fantasies involved old, graying, bearded men, and that has never changed.

Only difference today is, now I am their age-lol.

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/24/2010 5:11:58 AM

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Just think about it....When we're 95, all those 70 year olds are going to look pretty damn hot.

Cradle robber!!!!!

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/24/2010 7:12:46 AM

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Having spent time living in Europe, I think one of the vast differences was the appreciation for women over say mid 30's. I also have always been attracted to older men, so I don't think all men would hop in bed with a 20 year old just because they could. I know for me, I have no desire whatsoever to fuck a man under 45. Even for a one night never get caught fling.

I didn't really notice that when I lived in Europe, but I can't say I was paying much attention at that time as I was in the "nubile" twenty-something stage myself. I've since encountered several men either from or influenced by European culture, and I'd have to agree they certainly do seem to appreciate the more seasoned woman.

I should clarify that my comments with regard to taking the opportunity to bed a young filly were not meant to encompass all men... just a substantial number of those with whom I've had experience. However, there are men that I know (Firm included) for whom entangling themselves with such fresh flesh holds no great appeal. They can appreciate and be stimulated by the beauty of the female form in her youth, but would prefer to enjoy doing so at a distance.

I, too, have also always been attracted to older men and have no desire to engage with anyone younger than myself. Like others, I can appreciate those aspects of the male form that signify virility and youthful vigor, but it isn't something I would ever go looking for. Appreciating and being attracted are two different things for me.

I much prefer the stimulation I get from a man who displays those characteristics that, to me, represent power and strength... maturity, wisdom, responsibility and stature. Give me a man who physically towers over me and can mentally challenge me, and I'm putty in his hands. If I have more life-experience and maturity than he does, that just isn't going to happen.

Thing is, this is something that is just not within the realm of the strictly "visual". Sure, I can gauge a man's approximate age and stature just from seeing him (as in a photograph). But that isn't enough to stimulate me. I would have to get to know him before I would be able to determine if his personality and character was powerful enough to dominate me...

Because, of course, as a submissive, being dominated is what sexually attracts me.

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/24/2010 8:26:53 AM

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Just think about it....When we're 95, all those 70 year olds are going to look pretty damn hot.

Cradle robber!!!!!

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/24/2010 8:53:00 AM

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We're actually having a fascinating PM interaction at the moment...he's a real charmer.
Yup.

People named after Archangels aren't supposed to be 'charming', I don't think. You're supposed to feel 'humility'. (You're doing it wrong.)

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/24/2010 9:35:06 AM

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I consider myself more intelligent than the average peer of my age group, or a typical "bro", if you will.
I tend to be objective in my views instead of flocking with the herd mentality that caters to typical self delusional sugar - coating of facts.

When one has to say they are intelligent, rather than demonstrate it, it is usually a false statement.

Somewhat like when a man says he is a great lover, rather than just being one.

Both are qualities that show themselves more readily than broadcasting them does.

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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/26/2010 3:27:07 AM

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I've been having a disagreement with someone over a very sticky subject (I suppose that's subjective - it's just sticky for me, probably) and I thought I'd see what the general forum thinks. It's a bit biased to ask in a BDSM setting, but I figure it's a good starting point because if anyone is going to be honest about it, BDSMers will be.

Are you sexually attracted to legal adults under the age of 20?
Do you think everyone is, or every man is, or only certain men/women are? Is there a point at which you think you're too old to be acting on those fantasies, or even having them? Or do you think that anyone legal is fair game to sleep with?

I'm mainly asking this because I have pretty much believed that a lot of people (with the exception of those specifically into the dynamic) sort of know as they get to a certain age that very young adults are sort of off limits and don't even really find it appropriate to be thinking of them in that way, but it's been brought to my attention that I may be awfully naive I'd love to be set straight on this, if it's an obvious truth, or I'd love for someone to confirm my belief that not everyone is attracted to very young adults.

By the way, please notice that I've said legal adults. I'd really appreciate it if no one gets the thread pulled by mentioning anyone who is not a legal adult.

Hmmm sticky one alright.

Being a Dad and a 44 year old male I have no sexual attraction to women under 24, probably too close to my older stap kids age group but I also find that I can not "relate" on a vanilla level.

However I have played with Girls of a legal age who were under 24 and Ive found this to be just fine.

Why?

Well probably because I find that my kink is separate from sexual contact and I rarely engage in physical sex when I play.

To me a session is an experience and I feel that for me shagging someone during play cheapens the experience bearing in mind that these are my feelings on the matter and not a broad judgement.

I also don't normally become sexually aroused during play and as im fully clothed there is no real sexual aspect to a session.

People come to me or are accepted by me to experience things outside the normal vanilla realm and be they 18 or 58 I make it clear that sex is the last thing on my mind.

So yes and no, I dont have an issue with "Play" under my personal comfort age but I do have an issue with say an 18 year old girl or boy "giving" of themselves to someone much much older.

Oh and for what its worth?
Lady J doesn't have an issue with play and age barriers but does get a tad jealous lol.
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RE: Sexual Attraction and Age - 10/26/2010 5:36:33 AM

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Love younger men! Love to look at them and such... Yep yep yep. And then we start to talk. Uhhh. no. They are good for a good time, but something has happened in the last year or two for me. I just don't dig them anymore. A few years ago I lived in S. America and all my lovers were in the 20something range. Now? Meh. I like to look at them, and I enjoy their vitality and their experience of discovering the world, figuring out what it means to be a man. But no, not interested in the least. I had a date a couple weeks ago with a 20 something man. Yawn.

The other thing that has happened in the last couple of years is that I've changed. The younger men who used to just trip over themselves getting to me now think of me as a more maternal type. Could be that I'm a teacher, but a few years ago I was a teacher too, and ... I guess I just don't put out the vibe anymore. Meh.

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