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ORIGINAL: PatrickG38

Are there not links in the OP?

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The front page of the New York Times almost a year ago ran a fascinating article on how David Vitter, of DC Madame fame, is the favorite in his race for re-election because his opponents were supporters of Barack Obama, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/11/us/11vitter.html?_r=1&ref=politics as well as an equally relevant article on Congressman Joe Wilson (R-SC) and the lack of universal condemnation in his district, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/11/us/politics/11wilson.html?ref=politics. These stories coupled with the simply shocking poll results that a majority of Southerners (53%) don’t accept that President Obama was born in the United States, indicate a region addicted to ignorance and a threat to the future of democratic governance in America.

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The front page of the New York Times almost a year ago ran a fascinating article on how David Vitter, of DC Madame fame, is the favorite in his race for re-election because his opponents were supporters of Barack Obama,

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as well as an equally relevant article on Congressman Joe Wilson (R-SC) and the lack of universal condemnation in his district,

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a majority of Southerners either believe that Barack Obama was not born in the United States (23 percent) or are not sure (30 percent). Only 47 percent of Southern respondents believe Obama was born in the USA.

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38%
Percentage of Mississippi's population that is black, highest of any state. Blacks also make up more than a quarter of the population in Louisiana (32 percent), Georgia (31 percent), Maryland (30 percent), South Carolina (29 percent) and Alabama (27 percent). They comprise 56 percent of the population in the District of Columbia.

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ORIGINAL: Charles6682

One thing I do find interesting about the South is this.The Southern state's do say they want less Federal government out of their live's.Yet,yet something serious happen's like Katrina or the BP Oil Spill,these are the exact same people demanding the Federal government do something.The Federal Government hasn't done enough of this or enough of that.The Federal government should help in situation's like that.The point is,it's hard to have your cake and eat it too.If you want Federal government money for pet project's and to help in time's of meed,then don't try to dimiss the Federal government when you think they are no longer needed.Alot of people in Southern poor area's are on some form of Government help.Yet,you turn around and bite the hand that help's you.It's like that guy who say's"I don't want the Government touching my Medicare!"Come on,use some common sense on thing's like this.

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ORIGINAL: PatrickG38

Obviously, the poll can be off a bit, but that is meaningless as far as the argument goes. Virtually all polls (not to mention election results) confirm that the South as a region is significantly more conservative than the rest of the nation and more negative in its views of the president. If you count the only the white population, the disparity is even greater. I am not sure of your point. Are you saying the South’s political culture is no different than the rest of the nation?

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

to making the more modest assertion that it is more conservative than the rest of the US.

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ORIGINAL: Charles6682

I was born in Rochester,NY.You can't really get too much farther North than that,then you start heading into Canada.I currently live in Flordia.Which,you can't get any farther south than here.Trust me,Flordia is still the South,despite the misconception's.Northern Flordia is no dount,a good old boy Southern mentality.South Flordia,is where alot of the Northern's move to.Central Flordia is sort of in the middle.... I find this topic to be of interest.I have family that root's go from North all the way down through the South.I am a proud yankee.Honestly,I think it would have been better if the Civil War could have been avoided,but history is history..... I do understand the OP message but I don't think it's fair to group an entire region together..... Flordia did vote for Barack Obama in 2008.Granted,it was only 1 out of 3 state's in the south to vote for him,but still,people down here did vote for him.I have come across racism in the south and in the north.I see no difference there.In fact,I hate to say it,but I encountered more racism up North than I have down here in the South.Again,I know,I live in Flordia,yankee haven.In modern day time's,I would say the playing field has been leveled.....I will agree though,the North has been ahead of the south when it come's to social issue's.I am starting to see the hate garbage when it come's to gay people.I do wonder,is the south alway's trying to hate somebody?....I did find something interesting,in many southern state's,there are more registered Democrat's than there are Republican's.Yet,Republican have been basically in control of most of the south for ahile now.I wonder,why is that.... I realized alot of Southern's didn't care for Republican's for a long time because Abe Lincoln was the President at the time when the North defeated the South.The Repub's party was seen as a"Yankee" enemy for along time among southerner's..... Let's face fact's,slavery was legal in the North and the South.It did end alot sooner in the North than it did the South.The civil war may not have started because of slavery,but toward's the end of the war,slavery was the issue.... The old Jim Crow law's that followed afterward's for almost 100 year's in the South was a disgrace.Yes,the North has it's own hate law's,such as banning Interracial marriage,but nothing like what the South had.It took the Federal government a major effort to do what the Southern state's refused to do,which was end Jim Crow..... Now,in post 2000,I think the South has advanced alot.The South does deserve credit for trying to mend it's old way's..... I am not a Northern who view's people from the South as ignorant.I think that's biased and unfair to the many good Southerner's who do exsist.Time's have changed and so has the South.I've been through the deep South in recent time's and it's not as bad as many people make it out to be...... I still go back to upstate NY from time to time.That will alway's be my home,no matter where I go..... I know from traveling to different place's,everywhere has it's bad apple's and good apple's.I alway's prefer to be around the good spirited people.

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ORIGINAL: pogo4pres

FR


Every time I was in the south for a TDY (Temporary Duty) when I was in the USAF (1977-1983)  the prevailing attitude in the more rural and suburban areas was best summed up by the following:

"Well I heard Mr Young sing about her,  Well I heard ole Neil put her down, Well I hope Neil Young will remember,  A southern man don't need him around anyhow"



Regionally,
Some Knucklehead in NJ.