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mnottertail -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 9:48:21 AM)
yeah, you are the skins, we are the shirts.

rulemylife -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 9:52:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail yeah, you are the skins, we are the shirts. I just had this skins and shirts conversation and it didn't go well. But I'm still accepting donations of shirts for the shirtless of CollarMe.

tazzygirl -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 9:58:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail yeah, you are the skins, we are the shirts. lol.. too true Master Ron.

mnottertail -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 10:00:47 AM)
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tazzygirl -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 10:51:06 AM)
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MrRodgers -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 11:37:19 AM)
The lost distinction is that while Sitting Bull who was an American Indian and whose ancestors were 'American' before this land was called America, is that everybody...everybody else born since in America is merely...a Native American.

tazzygirl -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 11:40:50 AM)
That isnt a lost distinction, as much as you may wish it to be. Its really a shame we have to have these distinctions... Native American, African American, Japanese American, ect ect ect. If you dont like the phrase.. Native American... then again, look to your government as they coined the phrase and the Natives accepted that term.

eihwaz -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 12:04:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RacerJim quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 Didn't Sitting Bull orchestrate the demise of the 7th Calvary, and the death of Custer? The truth is that Sitting Bull did in fact orchastrate the death of a U.S. General (Custer) Your point? Isn't killing the enemy one of the primary activities of warfare? Also, I'm not sure having a premonition (that the Native Americans would prevail in the battle) constitutes "orchestrating."

Lucylastic -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 12:37:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic yeah Ill put him down as more American than any immigrant or their progeny The book isnt entitled American Citizen Heroes just American Heroes... and he isnt anything else but american. LOL semantics, always with the "catchy outie" semantics I think Obama is allowed his opinion still isnt he? Im sure Custers family are furious So ... the birth of an ancestor at any physical location makes all the descendants of such an individual part of the current society and government? how did you get there from what I said???? we are talking about SB only, he is nothing else but american born, I've got ancestors from Wales, England, Virginia, Germany, Poland, France and several other current nations. And more, I'm sure. what does that have to do with the price of cheese? you were born in america, full stop, so was SB Why do I not get to vote in those nations or states? can you get any more ridiculous oh wait, I know you can, but honestly... waste of energy and time Firm

Lucylastic -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 12:40:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY From the Amazon product description: In this tender, beautiful letter to his daughters, President Barack Obama has written a moving tribute to thirteen groundbreaking Americans and the ideals that have shaped our nation. From the artistry of Georgia O'Keeffe, to the courage of Jackie Robinson, to the patriotism of George Washington, President Obama sees the traits of these heroes within his own children, and within all of America's children. Breathtaking, evocative illustrations by award-winning artist Loren Long at once capture the personalities and achievements of these great Americans and the innocence and promise of childhood. This beautiful book celebrates the characteristics that unite all Americans, from our nation's founders to generations to come. It is about the potential within each of us to pursue our dreams and forge our own paths. It is a treasure to cherish with your family forever. Seems to be about "Americans" as in American citizens, as it specifically talks about "our nation". Firm using an editorial review from amazon? still a push, but you are still the only one using citizen as a qualifier. Ive enjoyed playing with you tho I hope you have a good weekend.... [:)]

FirmhandKY -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 2:20:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl I got native american. I got over 150 years of treaties the so called american government broke repeatedly. I got a long line of Sitting Bull decendants being born on this soil... long before the europeans even knew about this continent. I got promises made, promises broken, and a nation of native americans lied too repeatedly by this so called government simply for the purpose of gold. Lets not forget why BigHorn was fought. I got Sitting Bull fought against the same tyranny that the US government declared against the British. Did I say otherwise, anywhere? quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl You want to view him as a non-american? Use of caps is important in this discussion. I view him as not an American citizen (part of the political organization established on the North American continent). I do view him as an american native (as in born on the same continent). Why is that so damn hard to understand? quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl I think if he were alive today. he would thank you. So, why is he in a book devoted to "groundbreaking Americans and the ideals that have shaped our nation", if he not only didn't accept nor desire citizenship, did not like "American the country" and wanted no part of it? quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl I, and many like me, view him as a true american hero in all the sense of the word. I think I said already, that from one point of view, his actions could be seen as "heroic". Firm

FirmhandKY -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 2:33:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic using an editorial review from amazon? I'd like to actually read the book, so I could make a better evaluation. quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic still a push, but you are still the only one using citizen as a qualifier. Ive enjoyed playing with you tho I hope you have a good weekend.... [:)] No problem. Lucy. To you as well. I'm redoing my main PC this weekend, so I might not be around the forums much for a few days. Enjoy the peace and quiet. [:)][8D] Firm

Lucylastic -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 3:12:32 PM)
oh have fun, Im always tinkering with mine, now thinking of going back from windows 7 to XP, the speed is horrendous on 7 and I loved my FAST tweaked XP joy joy joy

rulemylife -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 3:33:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic oh have fun, Im always tinkering with mine, now thinking of going back from windows 7 to XP, the speed is horrendous on 7 and I loved my FAST tweaked XP joy joy joy That's not the only thing that is horrendous on 7. I had XP pro and compared to that 7 sucks. But Microsoft is essentially a monopoly so they can afford to shoot themselves in the foot by producing bad products.

Lucylastic -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 3:43:22 PM)
I enjoy a couple of things in 7, mostly pretty pretty but the bloat is bloody awful considering how fast my old computer was running xp and my new faster, double the memory and speed is slower than treacle under 7 blechhhhhhhhhh Ive stripped what I can, and it is better but still its making me pissy

Aylee -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 3:46:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl You want to view him as a non-american? Use of caps is important in this discussion. I view him as not an American citizen (part of the political organization established on the North American continent). I do view him as an american native (as in born on the same continent). Why is that so damn hard to understand? Because it is part of the "America is evil" thing. Sitting Bull was citizen of the Lakota Nation (note the term Nation) specifically a Lakota Sioux. I am not sure where Tazzy lives, but around here and where I grew up, people identify with tribe. For example I would not tell someone that, "I am Native American." I would tell them, "I am Wampanoag." Calling someone a Native American is kind of like calling President Obama an Afro-Eurasian Migrant.

rulemylife -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 3:55:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Ive stripped what I can, and it is better but still its making me pissy Who are you trying to kid, you're always pissy. [sm=insane.gif][sm=lol.gif] And where's the g-string? I'm sick of looking at the pig.

Lucylastic -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 4:00:32 PM)
brave brave man:) possess your soul in patience my dear chap good things come to those who wait...and wait, of course you know now,Im goin to keep it up till you adore piggys in moo shoes[;)][;)][;)][;)]

rulemylife -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 4:17:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic of course you know now,Im goin to keep it up till you adore piggys in moo shoes[;)][;)][;)][;)] Well that sucks! [:D]

tazzygirl -> RE: You have to love FOX, they are "fair and balanced" (11/19/2010 10:56:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl You want to view him as a non-american? Use of caps is important in this discussion. I view him as not an American citizen (part of the political organization established on the North American continent). I do view him as an american native (as in born on the same continent). Why is that so damn hard to understand? Because it is part of the "America is evil" thing. Sitting Bull was citizen of the Lakota Nation (note the term Nation) specifically a Lakota Sioux. I am not sure where Tazzy lives, but around here and where I grew up, people identify with tribe. For example I would not tell someone that, "I am Native American." I would tell them, "I am Wampanoag." Calling someone a Native American is kind of like calling President Obama an Afro-Eurasian Migrant. Actually, it doesnt matter. Sitting Bull was an american indian. He was courageous and stood up for what he was promised by a government who changed their minds like the changed their clothes. I find him someone to admire.

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