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Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submi... - 11/20/2010 12:50:32 PM   
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Hi all. I've been reading and posting for a few months now and find a little confusion with some things. Like for instance, the thread here "Question of Masters Only!". I read through it and saw a little chaos about the subs posting. And I know we can post whereever and whenever we please. I also get that submission is to the submissives' Master/Dom.

What about submissive behavior? I see some very strong submissive statements and arguements made on these threads, to the point of extreme and bickering. Yes, some deserve it, without a doubt.

But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community? I mean, yes, I understand someone who isn't your Dom telling you to go do corner time would be out of line. And I may be off base saying this, but I would see my Dom expecting me to show some respect to other Doms, even if they get out of line, I can still just walk away. It didn't even cross my mind to respond to "Question for Masters Only!" post.


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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 12:59:22 PM   
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And yet....you posted this in "Ask a master" section when you're listed as a submissive.
Tsk tsk tsk.

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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 1:02:38 PM   
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lol...true enough. My bad. The "Question for Masters Only!" thread just got me to thinking and it was in here...so... :)

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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 1:15:24 PM   
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The people on the board are just people, to me, whatever they identify as.

I don't pay any special attention to, or show any *special* respect to any of them because they are doms. I would find that ludicrous. I treat everyone here in the same manner.....as fellow forum participants.

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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 1:20:45 PM   
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So if I create a profile that says I'm dominant, I should receive more respect than if I post from this profile?

Because that's what you're saying.

We're all just people.  Someone whose orientation is dominant in nature is not entitled to any more respect from me than a stranger on the street.




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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 1:21:59 PM   
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~fast reply~

I give respect where it's earned.

I couldn't give a flying fart if the sticky label you're wearing says dom, sub or grand high poobah. Act like a decent human being and you will have my respect. Act like an ass and I'll treat you like an ass.

Works in real-life too.


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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 1:29:11 PM   
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But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community? I mean, yes, I understand someone who isn't your Dom telling you to go do corner time would be out of line. And I may be off base saying this, but I would see my Dom expecting me to show some respect to other Doms, even if they get out of line, I can still just walk away. It didn't even cross my mind to respond to "Question for Masters Only!" post.



Absolutely.  But I see similar respect given to those who exemplify the best qualities of an s type as well.


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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 1:30:33 PM   
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I am a submissive personality but that doesn't mean I have a submissive behavior towards every Tom, Dick or Harry. I reserve my submissive behaviour to my Master.

As for respect towards all TRUE Doms...ppffttt...the only TRUE dom is my own dom just as the one true dom is your dom towards you. Everyone else is just an ordinary joe on the street and  he gets treated the same as every other human being in the world.

I think what you spouted sounds like stuff from an Anne Rice novel. Sorry.


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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 1:47:02 PM   
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I think what you spouted sounds like stuff from an Anne Rice novel. Sorry.




I respect your opinion. Your way of wording it, no.

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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 2:05:29 PM   
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...I know we can post whereever and whenever we please. I also get that submission is to the submissives' Master/Dom.

What about submissive behavior? I see some very strong submissive statements and arguements made on these threads, to the point of extreme and bickering. Yes, some deserve it, without a doubt.

But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community? I mean, yes, I understand someone who isn't your Dom telling you to go do corner time would be out of line. And I may be off base saying this, but I would see my Dom expecting me to show some respect to other Doms, even if they get out of line, I can still just walk away. It didn't even cross my mind to respond to "Question for Masters Only!" post.



Hello, anniezz338!

i think that your opinion, while valid, will be in the minority here. That's neither here nor there, i'm just warning you. Collarme is full of strong- willed and outspoken people, regardless of orientation. i think it's good advice to just get used to that, because you're probably not going to convince many people to change their own behavior. It is worthwhile to note that (as far as i know) no one is asking you to change yours.

There are days when i think the forums are too catty. There are days when i think it's just right. In either case, i appreciate the honesty, just as i appreciate the people who try to be polite and fair, instead of bickering over every little thing and splitting hairs. i don't know. i have mixed feelings about the forums.

However, one thing that i always respect is a poster who has the courage to voice an opinion that's in the minority because, well, that's just what they think, goddammit. So, kudos to you. Welcome.

pam

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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 2:09:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: anniezz338

Hi all. I've been reading and posting for a few months now and find a little confusion with some things. Like for instance, the thread here "Question of Masters Only!". I read through it and saw a little chaos about the subs posting. And I know we can post whereever and whenever we please. I also get that submission is to the submissives' Master/Dom.

What about submissive behavior? I see some very strong submissive statements and arguements made on these threads, to the point of extreme and bickering. Yes, some deserve it, without a doubt.

But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community? I mean, yes, I understand someone who isn't your Dom telling you to go do corner time would be out of line. And I may be off base saying this, but I would see my Dom expecting me to show some respect to other Doms, even if they get out of line, I can still just walk away. It didn't even cross my mind to respond to "Question for Masters Only!" post.



I'm going to address your last paragraph first. What someone's dominant expects of them is a personal matter between them and I wouldn't really have a comment about that in a situation like this. However, even if we did have a community, anyone can join that community and there is no way of knowing if they are a true anything or not. What I find disturbing is when you say that you can show respect even if a dominant is getting out of line and maybe expecting that others do this as well. For you... do what you will or whatever your dominant wants. However, for others, I would see this as expecting others to ignore and move on with someone that is out of line and they have every right to tell them where the bridge is to buy and jump off of. It isn't a requirement that a submissive act better than a so called dominant and if they chose to be so, then good for them, but sometimes an ass needs a little kicking and if it comes from a submissive, all the better! lol We other dominant's can sit back and laugh. I love when an ass, so called dominant gets their ass kicked by those they view as somehow lower in status.

Submissive behavior might attract a partner by how they conduct themselves, but it also attracts those ass, so called dominant's. Sometimes things can go overboard no matter the side of the slash people are on, but if those who prey upon the good girls because they see that they are good girls, they often will try to take advantage. I see this lack of behavior going on for many reasons and I am all for those reasons. Whether it be rights, not being owned, not submitting to anyone, a sign of independence and personality or a mode of protection... it is all good with me. However, if someone was mine, they would have rules of conduct, but an ass is fair game in my opinion and that would not be held against my submissive. Hell, he might win kudo's and a sweet lil something!

What I find interesting is that the site here has made the rules and so many try to unmake them, seemingly showing better submission or dominance in doing so. Pride in any form that goes against the house rules tends to bother me more than a lot of things. Enforce the house rules and I gain respect for you because you choose to be in the house. Those that want a community standard that isn't imposed by the house, can create their own house and rules.

(Slash, not slant! lol)


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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 2:24:41 PM   
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Thank you pam for your welcome and understanding. I'm not trying to change anyone's viewpoints either, just being curious hopefully without offending people. Thanks again :)

Lockit, I always enjoy your posts. I understand what you are saying. Since my "house" isn't completely built yet, including the rules, the learning process continues....lol.

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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 2:36:43 PM   
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Thanks Anniezz, I enjoy your posts as well. I'm glad you didn't take that personally. I was just thinking I should come and make that clear and there you were. In my mind, I had others I was thinking of that motivated more of my post than you did.

This is a good topic and something disputed often enough to warrant a discussion about it! lol


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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 2:42:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: anniezz338

What about submissive behavior?
I don't have a submissive personality. I'm an alpha that only submits when I find someone more alpha than I am.

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But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community?
I'm the TRUE Queen of England and expect to be treated as such. See the issue here? Just because someone labels themselves as something doesn't automatically get them respect. Respect is earned.  

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 I would see my Dom expecting me to show some respect to other Doms
Again, respect is earned.

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It didn't even cross my mind to respond to "Question for Masters Only!" post.
Why not? A submissive's experience is just as valid as a Dominant's. Oh wait though...according to that title even Dominants shouldn't respond....only those that consider themselves "Masters".





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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 2:54:13 PM   
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Simply because someone is submissive in nature does not mean that they are going to submit to everyone that slaps on a nick with the the title Dom / Master. I submit to my owner, those he orders me to be submissive towards, or those that have earned my respect. If I submit to the will of every who claims to be a Dom/Master how is my submission to my owner special or unique? How do I protect myself from harm if I am submitting to the will of strangers?


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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 3:00:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: anniezz338

Hi all. I've been reading and posting for a few months now and find a little confusion with some things. Like for instance, the thread here "Question of Masters Only!". I read through it and saw a little chaos about the subs posting. And I know we can post whereever and whenever we please. I also get that submission is to the submissives' Master/Dom.

What about submissive behavior? I see some very strong submissive statements and arguements made on these threads, to the point of extreme and bickering. Yes, some deserve it, without a doubt.

But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community? I mean, yes, I understand someone who isn't your Dom telling you to go do corner time would be out of line. And I may be off base saying this, but I would see my Dom expecting me to show some respect to other Doms, even if they get out of line, I can still just walk away. It didn't even cross my mind to respond to "Question for Masters Only!" post.






So how would you define a TRUE Master/Dom? Somebody who labels himself as such? Especially online, I mean anybody can create a nick, claim 99 years of experience an demand respect.

As far as expecting a submissive to respect a dominant, well, I always expected from my subs to behave in a way that would not reflect badly on me, but if they wanted to argue their point with somebody else, fine, as long as they don't go out of their way flinging insults about and behaving horribly, not an issue. In case they're out of order, I would call them back to the carpet ASAP, but in general I do prefer a human being with a free will and they submit to me out of their free will because they think me worthy of their submission, not somebody who'll automatically submit to anybody who demands respect because they declare themselves a dominant, and yes, I would call them back to the carpet if they would be out of order with another submissive just as much as if they would insult another dominant.

As it is an open board, and somebody says "ETs only" - that person then can decide to ignore all answers that are not given by extra terrestrials - or people who claim to be extra terrestrials...

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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 3:18:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: anniezz338

But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community? I mean, yes, I understand someone who isn't your Dom telling you to go do corner time would be out of line. And I may be off base saying this, but I would see my Dom expecting me to show some respect to other Doms, even if they get out of line, I can still just walk away. It didn't even cross my mind to respond to "Question for Masters Only!" post.



Absolutely.  But I see similar respect given to those who exemplify the best qualities of an s type as well.



DarkSteven-Can't you shot this thread like you shot the other one?

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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 3:27:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: anniezz338

Hi all. I've been reading and posting for a few months now and find a little confusion with some things. Like for instance, the thread here "Question of Masters Only!". I read through it and saw a little chaos about the subs posting. And I know we can post whereever and whenever we please. I also get that submission is to the submissives' Master/Dom.

What about submissive behavior? I see some very strong submissive statements and arguements made on these threads, to the point of extreme and bickering. Yes, some deserve it, without a doubt.

But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community? I mean, yes, I understand someone who isn't your Dom telling you to go do corner time would be out of line. And I may be off base saying this, but I would see my Dom expecting me to show some respect to other Doms, even if they get out of line, I can still just walk away. It didn't even cross my mind to respond to "Question for Masters Only!" post.




I generally treat people with respect unless they give me a reason not to.
So, general respect does not have to be earned.

I don't think that any title here automatically demands respect.
There are posters whose opinions I personally respect a great deal.
That respect is specific; it has been earned.
Some of them have different labels (usually self-identified) attached to them:
Dom/Domme, submissive, slave, pet, Top, bottom, Master (which is used regardless of gender) and friend, among others.
I don't differentiate the level of respect based upon which side of the kneel they are on.

My usual criteria for posting is this:
Do I have something to offer?
It doesn't matter which forum it is placed on or what the admonishments are.
If I believe I have something to offer that will be useful, I will likely post.

Often there is a second requirement:
Is it kind?... but that is not always the case.

edit: grammar and clarity

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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 3:33:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: anniezz338

But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community? I mean, yes, I understand someone who isn't your Dom telling you to go do corner time would be out of line. And I may be off base saying this, but I would see my Dom expecting me to show some respect to other Doms, even if they get out of line, I can still just walk away. It didn't even cross my mind to respond to "Question for Masters Only!" post.



Absolutely.  But I see similar respect given to those who exemplify the best qualities of an s type as well.



DarkSteven-Can't you shot this thread like you shot the other one?


Sorry.  I shot my wad there.


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RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being s... - 11/20/2010 3:45:50 PM   
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As far as expecting a submissive to respect a dominant, well, I always expected from my subs to behave in a way that would not reflect badly on me, but if they wanted to argue their point with somebody else, fine, as long as they don't go out of their way flinging insults about and behaving horribly, not an issue. In case they're out of order, I would call them back to the carpet ASAP, but in general I do prefer a human being with a free will and they submit to me out of their free will because they think me worthy of their submission, not somebody who'll automatically submit to anybody who demands respect because they declare themselves a dominant, and yes, I would call them back to the carpet if they would be out of order with another submissive just as much as if they would insult another dominant.



Hi LadyContanze, your words about how it would reflect on my Dom is what stays in the forefront of my mind.

I'm willing to show respect very quickly. But it can be lost just as quickly. Then I walk away without a word. Works for me in most all situations of that type. The last thing I would do is go off like a nut case. I would expect to pay highly for that from my Dom..lol.

In the next breath, I would expect from Him to handle the situation if it gets out of hand. I hope/know that goes without saying but.. :)

Thanks for your comments.

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