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Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By: ma... - 11/22/2010 10:59:55 AM   
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Tags: AFGHANISTANGREAT BRITAIN Hospitals are treating a growing number of drug users who have overdosed on heroin mixed with other substances by dealers because of a huge shortage of the opiate across the UK. One of the most severe heroin 'droughts' for five years has been reported in areas across the UK, including, London, Lancashire, Surrey, and Stockton-on-Tees. The shortage has been linked not to seizures of the drug by law enforcement agencies but to a fungus that has blighted this year's poppy crop in Afghanistan, reducing it by half.
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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 11:00:48 AM   
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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 11:37:54 AM   
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Do you know who walter mitty is?   So, right off the bat, quit posting this horseshit. 


No thank you.

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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 11:46:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry PA.........but I just cannot work up too much sympathy for a bunch of junkies.

When I was but a wee tigresse cub and offered 'the high of a lifetime', there were A LOT of things this backwoods, small podunk town didn't know. But I did know one thing, you can DIE from heroin!!!! So I said "No thank you!" and went off to smoke a joint with the echos of the names ( like pussy, scaredycat, etc etc) I'd been called drifting behind me.

I am still very much alive, no addiction (except chocolate...) and not at all worried about the shortage of any illegal drugs.


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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 12:27:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		The abuse of drugs is illegal, but like LaTigresse said, I cannot get sympathetic to the the problems drug addicts are suffering. But with regards to those that are suffering and seek help from others, perhaps they also should show some sympathy to all those others, non drug addicts who have suffered as the result of their illegal addictions.

Basically, they are reaping the wild wind their habit was going to catch up on them at some point.


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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 12:28:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Odd replies considering that some here are on opiods via meds. 

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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 12:34:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I dare say those that use derivites of opium as a medicine, get it from legitimate sources, pharmceutical companies and such, so what they get is unlikely to be cut with crap that causes problems, so the difference between an illegal recreational drug user and a genuine patient is a very dfferent thing.

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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 12:36:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		What I find amazing is that legitimate pain suffers cannot get help because they say we are an addict, but be foolish enough to be an addict of heroin and they give you stuff to help you not go into withdrawal and can keep you there for years. I hear about it in the UK and the US and something seems ass backwards with it.

So be a bad guy, do things you shouldn't do and become addicted and they will help you, but if you are a bad guy that is simply in pain, you are worse and neglected because your drug of choice wasn't heroin and unlawful habits. Why worry about them killing themselves or dying because they can't get it, if that is a fact... we have pain suffers dying or ending it all the time? I'm not even sorry for being heartless about it.

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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 12:39:55 PM   
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I dare say those that use derivites of opium as a medicine, get it from legitimate sources, pharmceutical companies and such, so what they get is unlikely to be cut with crap that causes problems, so the difference between an illegal recreational drug user and a genuine patient is a very dfferent thing.


You miss the point.  The crop is THE ingredient in legal RXs.  There in lies the issue.

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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 2:33:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hopefully those of you who sniff at the deaths of mere heroin users and mutter: 'You did it to yourself - you deserve it.' are similarly immune to caring about people who die in vehicles they have chosen to drive, planes they have chosen to fly in, homes they have chosen to live in, at the hands of people they have chosen to spend time with ...

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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 2:35:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Then the solution really is to employ Afghanis to supply to the meds companies, not the recreational drugs dealers.

I know this is easier said than done, but there lies an option that might have two benefits, first the supply of what is needed for medical use and the second being depriving the taliban of their source of income.


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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 4:18:00 PM   
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Hopefully those of you who sniff at the deaths of mere heroin users and mutter: 'You did it to yourself - you deserve it.' are similarly immune to caring about people who die in vehicles they have chosen to drive, planes they have chosen to fly in, homes they have chosen to live in, at the hands of people they have chosen to spend time with ...

Sorry.  Huge difference between the terms "accidental" and "intentional".


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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 4:38:10 PM   
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Hopefully those of you who sniff at the deaths of mere heroin users and mutter: 'You did it to yourself - you deserve it.' are similarly immune to caring about people who die in vehicles they have chosen to drive, planes they have chosen to fly in, homes they have chosen to live in, at the hands of people they have chosen to spend time with ...


Not really, vehicles, planes and homes all carry good an healthy connotations, so death in either is sad, but heroin users choose to do what they do despite education that says do this and it may lead to their death. Many have chosen to heed that education, so it is there, but there are others who choose to ignore the education and do their own thing, they were warned and now they suffer the consequences.

Simailarly those who engage in dangerous sports with a very real possibility of death, they are educated, they know the risks and take every precaution against shit happening , yet they carry on regardless, they die in the pursuit of their leisure, yes, it is sad, but they knew the risks.

But the difference between a dangerous sportsman and a heroin user, is misusing drugs is illegal and through the misuse of drugs crime is committed in using the stuff and the mechanism of supply and funding the stuff.

I wonder, if recreational drugs became totally unavailable, would we see so much crime committed on others ?


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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 4:50:34 PM   
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Do you know who walter mitty is?   So, right off the bat, quit posting this horseshit. 


I do, but my mom was a Danny Kaye fan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mitty


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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 5:01:07 PM   
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Hopefully those of you who sniff at the deaths of mere heroin users and mutter: 'You did it to yourself - you deserve it.' are similarly immune to caring about people who die in vehicles they have chosen to drive, planes they have chosen to fly in, homes they have chosen to live in, at the hands of people they have chosen to spend time with ...


Gosh.  If only we could all live in a habitrail, venturing out only in our hamster balls, then. . . then. . . life would be bliss!


And yes, I am rather immune to those deaths unless I actually know the corspe.

Last I checked the death rate was 1 per person.  Making it literally a part (albeit the ending part) of life. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX07j9SDFcc

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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 6:50:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Last I checked the death rate was 1 per person. "

Touche' , that was sharp. May I use it ?

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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 7:03:13 PM   
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But the difference between a dangerous sportsman and a heroin user, is misusing drugs is illegal


I don't think I could go for that line of reasoning. Here in the UK, the speed limit on roads is widely flouted. Many die as a result of this kind of illegal activity; it's not to be condoned, but I'd still have sympathy.

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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 7:24:24 PM   
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"Last I checked the death rate was 1 per person. "

Touche' , that was sharp. May I use it ?

T


Be my guest.  I am pretty certain that I read it somewhere.

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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 10:10:18 PM   
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RE: Heroin shortage in UK is 'putting lives at risk' By... - 11/22/2010 10:21:40 PM   
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Do you know who walter mitty is?   So, right off the bat, quit posting this horseshit. 


I do, but my mom was a Danny Kaye fan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mitty



*Snarl*... Walter Mitty was a wonderful creation of Thurber.  The Danny Kaye movie was IMO a very poor interpretation.


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