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pahunkboy -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/25/2010 1:31:19 PM)

Jazz,   I hate to break the news to you- but they do not change their gloves.

Also- I would never take a private room.  When ever there could be ????  I want people to SEE IT ALL.  Sorta like they say never to get in a car with a stranger- that those bodies end up dead.




RapierFugue -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/25/2010 2:14:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue
One of the techniques many security experts think would be better than the current system is one where you are "pre-checked". Of course you'd need biometric identification but the system's presumably not completely unworkable.


There's plenty of evil islamofascist terrorists biometric identification wouldn't work on though: how are they going to fingerprint or get retinal photos of that Abu Hamza chap?


In which case they wouldn't get in. Which was the entire point [;)]




Moonhead -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/25/2010 2:21:34 PM)

Fair enough.




Aneirin -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/25/2010 8:13:38 PM)

Well, it seems airport security is bad enough, now imagine all that and having to take a flight on Ryanair




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/25/2010 8:22:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Peons NEVER die in air crashes UNLESS a big shot is on the plane.


Any time you put 300 people on an airplane, it's almost a statistical certainty that 1 or 2 of them are going to be "big shots" of some type.




tazzygirl -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/25/2010 8:25:52 PM)

Apparently Sanford Airport in Orlando has decided to opt out of the TSA scanners and go with a private company. But, according to the article...

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The TSA points out that even if an airport decides to use a private firm for security, the screeners still must follow TSA guidelines. That would include using enhanced pat-downs and the full-body scanners if they are installed at the airport.


http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/11/sanford-airport-to-opt-out-of.html

My question is... who is in ultimate charge of the airports? From what i can find, its now in the hands of DOT and Homeland Security.

Something else i found... from 2002, a CBS article expressing the views of people then...

Likewise, Gordon Sommers, waiting at New York's Kennedy Airport for a return flight to Kingston, Jamaica, said he just wanted the security screening done well.

"I don't much care whether it's Civil Service or contracted service as long as it's effective," Sommers said.

The change provided reassurance to Scott Landis of South Berwick, Maine.

"I'd rather have the federal government handle it than the airlines," said Landis, flying to Florida with his family from Boston's Logan Airport, where the two planes that smashed into the World Trade Center took off from on Sept. 11.

"It's the appropriate role for the government to play. The airlines have been shown to be lax in the past."

Renier Kraakman of Cambridge, Mass., escorting his 11-year-old daughter to her flight at Logan, didn't see any difference.

"It's just for show," he said. "But if it makes people feel good it's worthwhile."

Kendra Lynn of Tulsa, Okla., said it did not take longer for her to pass through security Sunday at Dallas-Fort Worth Airport. But she said she would not complain even if federal oversight meant more thorough checks. "We're thrilled with any kind of excess screening," she said.

Security workers said they were aware of the federal supervision.

"I'm nervous," said Girish Vakil, a security worker for Argenbright Security Inc. at Dallas-Forth Worth. He added: "I'm a good worker, never failed a test."

Another problem for the government, reports Pinkston, is the high tech equipment needed to check luggage for explosives: The nation's airports need 2,000, but there are only 165 in operation now, and another 1,000 in the pipeline for installation by the end of the year. Until then, security personnel will have to make do with hand scanners.

"We've had a very deficient airlines security system for a number of years," said Stempler. "We can't fix it overnight."


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/02/26/terror/main502103.shtml

ETA a link




thornhappy -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/25/2010 8:50:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
Peons NEVER die in air crashes UNLESS a big shot is on the plane.

Gulf oil spill recovery exec dead in plane crash Tags: GULF OIL DISASTER An executive helping to guide BP's recovery from the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, a top Texas lawyer and his mother-in-law were killed in a small plane crash in waters off northern Florida, officials said Wednesday. James Patrick Black, 58, died about a mile from the Destin airport in the Florida Panhandle on Tuesday night, said BP spokeswoman Hejdi Feick.

Where, in the name of all gods living or dead, did you get a theory that every single crash is due to a bigwig on board?  So, tell me the bigwig that was on the Comair flight down here in Cincy?  How about the DC-10 crash in Sioux City, IA?

I guess some nefarious organization can engineer wind shear, birds, geese, mountain rotors and fog just to wipe out a bigwig.




thornhappy -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/25/2010 8:51:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel
Umm isn't that what the no fly list is all about?  

Hope any new measures don't run like that list - it's rife with errors.  Sen Ted Kennedy was on it, some children are on it, and since there is no standard convention for converting Arabic names to English, a lot of innocent people are on it.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/25/2010 11:14:06 PM)

FR:

I found a partial answer to the TSA scanner/pat down issue;

Flying Pasties.com

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Knightwalker -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/26/2010 3:24:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: takemeforyourown

Shall I pay the fine then, if they single me out for a pat-down and I refuse? No! I have a better idea. I think I shall strip off all my clothes in front of everyone. Nothing says, "can't touch this" like a naked mommy-body in the middle of an airport. I don't think there would be any reason for them to touch me after that, nor would they probably want to. hee hee


Kinda shoots your objection in the foot if you strip naked in line. If you don't want them to see you naked on a screen -- and thus opt out of the scan -- and then you strip to avoid the pat down....why not just step into the scanner and be done with it?




pahunkboy -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/26/2010 4:11:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
Peons NEVER die in air crashes UNLESS a big shot is on the plane.

Gulf oil spill recovery exec dead in plane crash Tags: GULF OIL DISASTER An executive helping to guide BP's recovery from the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, a top Texas lawyer and his mother-in-law were killed in a small plane crash in waters off northern Florida, officials said Wednesday. James Patrick Black, 58, died about a mile from the Destin airport in the Florida Panhandle on Tuesday night, said BP spokeswoman Hejdi Feick.

Where, in the name of all gods living or dead, did you get a theory that every single crash is due to a bigwig on board?  So, tell me the bigwig that was on the Comair flight down here in Cincy?  How about the DC-10 crash in Sioux City, IA?

I guess some nefarious organization can engineer wind shear, birds, geese, mountain rotors and fog just to wipe out a bigwig.


And the Titanic is unsinkable, and the Hindonburg is safe.




pahunkboy -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/26/2010 4:22:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Peons NEVER die in air crashes UNLESS a big shot is on the plane.


Any time you put 300 people on an airplane, it's almost a statistical certainty that 1 or 2 of them are going to be "big shots" of some type.



THANK YOU.   The key is a big shot that is bucking the system in a profound way.

Ideally traveling in groups.

The plane that slid into the Hudson River is a good example.




GreedyTop -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/26/2010 4:26:32 AM)

jeez, hunky.. your paranoia is getting out of hand.    are you taking your meds?




Hippiekinkster -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/26/2010 4:28:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

jeez, hunky.. your paranoia is getting out of hand.    are you taking your meds?
Does PCP count?




GreedyTop -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/26/2010 4:53:52 AM)

non-prescribable doesnt count.




pahunkboy -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/26/2010 4:59:03 AM)

Well if they had scanners on the Titanic and the Hindenburg- those poor people would still be alive. 




GreedyTop -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/26/2010 5:07:05 AM)

WTF?




pahunkboy -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/26/2010 5:14:06 AM)

????


Am I right?




GreedyTop -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/26/2010 5:17:27 AM)

I doubt it.. you're making no sense again.  STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD.




pahunkboy -> RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! (11/26/2010 5:20:01 AM)

I just got here.  I been with family...




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