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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:39:15 AM   
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I guess I'll have to re-read the posts because I never saw the words cunt or stupid or whore or fat bitch. These sound more like inner demons spewing forth, and for that I feel very bad for you.



I know I never said them. But hey, me and my delightful ass are just amused as all hell. I really love it when people have no idea what they are spewing.

But that's the inner demon in me.

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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:40:19 AM   
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Ok then, so far I have been called a judgemental cunt, a whore, stupid, a fat bitch, and all the other crap I'm not going to bother looking back for. Here's judgemental for you.


Tsk tsk. I stated....

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Oddly enough, because you are posting on this forum, and your picture is quite visable, you could be considered a whore who will fuck anyone who spanks your ass. And that would be a kind assessment by the vanilla world.


I own what i post. How does it feel to be judged based upon your photo, profile and thread posts?

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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:41:01 AM   
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You may not get it, but studies do show that lifestyle choices, are the biggest factor in someone being overweight. With that being said, then most of those that are overweight, are that way because they lack either the self control on intake, the discipline on increasing activity, or both. The "fat suit experiements" show the perception that most people have of those that are overweight. It really is simple human behavior.

The OP was not about what everyone's preferences are, but the perception of overweight Dominants.

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Maybe I'm a freak but I really don't get this weight = lack of control/lack of dominance thing. Some guys I like heavy, some guys I don't.



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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:43:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: anniezz338

Ok then, so far I have been called a judgemental cunt, a whore, stupid, a fat bitch, and all the other crap I'm not going to bother looking back for. Here's judgemental for you.


Where? Are we reading the same thread?

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Bones, your weight isn't posted. I got your number. If you spent the time you did giving your opinion on this thread and instead got on a treadmill, you might not be so bitter. You protest too much to be valid.



Yes, my weight isn't posted. I'm also not looking for anything here except "chit chat", which you're aware of since you viewed my profile. Ironically, I had no problem in post #127 stating that I'm a fat chick....big deal. Would my weight matter in regards to my ability to carry on a conversation?

As for the treadmill...I'd love to get on one, but my orthopedic surgeon has forbidden me from using them due to a foot problem/deformity that has required over 6 operations, 4 this year alone. Walking is a gift few people truly appreciate until they don't have the ability.

That being said, have a lovely day.

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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:46:28 AM   
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I am just going to interject a fast reply here.....

Fat girls make pretty decent cocksuckers usually. 

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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:46:49 AM   
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Hey, with all of the "Dominants" out of work these days..does that mean their cards will be revoked?

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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:48:03 AM   
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Fat girls make pretty decent cocksuckers usually.

I've noticed that too!

Added: My Fat (hot) Ass must go and do some work...


< Message edited by Icarys -- 12/1/2010 10:49:51 AM >


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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:48:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
Maybe I'm a freak but I really don't get this weight = lack of control/lack of dominance thing. Some guys I like heavy, some guys I don't.
Really? I don't believe that. I think you do get it and you just don't agree with it (for the record, neither do I). Look, let's be serious here. Right off that bat, some women will judge dominance on the basis of freakin wardrobe. So pretty much anything is "in scope" in terms of what constitutes dominance for someone somewhere. I'm sure that a whole raft of women here could tell you what an un-domly hairstyle was. The same is probably true of "self control". They care about it because they care.

Then, of course, is the tendency to over-generalize. A lack of self-discipline in one area doesn't make for a generally undisciplined person. But people love to make all or nothing, black and white snap judgements.. particularly on the internet and particularly on the internet in BDSM land. This is the land of One True Way. If that weren't so, then people wouldn't constantly be bitching about OTW *laughs*.

Finally, is the rather obvious conclusion that being overweight is mal-adapted in pretty much every way possible. It's a lot like smoking (note, I struggle with smoking on and off). It'd be a mistake to say that I am generally undisciplined. But it's certainly true to say that I lack self control where nicotine is present. Now, us humans do all sorts of things every day that are sub-optimal and this is no different. But at least some people care about it a great deal. I would totally understand if someone looked at my running battle with nicotine and declared me "undisciplined". What I'd understand is that for them, that's an important thing. What else I understand is that by the numbers, cigarettes are a bad thing. I'm not going to start calling my smoking habit a good thing whether or not I do it. The same is true of obesity -- possibly even more true -- the jury is out on which is more deadly. Insofar as being a social detriment, I think cigarettes actually used to be cool and manly so were a plus. That, of course, is changing now and largely being a smoker is a negative. Both traits carry a wide variety of negative incentives attached.

And, finally, from the dom side... the biggest reason I care about Carol's body fat is that I would be an irresponsible owner if I didn't. I care about my own for the same reason. In my eyes, that'd be an awful lot like the guy who goes out and waxes his car every other day till it glows but can't be bothered to take it for it's scheduled maintenance. Taking care of her base mechanics is a part of the deal I signed up for when I took ownership of her. So I educated myself as best I was able (at length) regarding the [physical] care and feeding of humans and now I'm executing to that knowledge. When I signed up to own a human, I signed up for the Physical, Emotional, Intellectual, and Spiritual care and feeding thereof. I expect Carol to do her job to a very high standard of excellence. It's entirely reasonable to expect the same of myself.

Note. I'm not really trying to support the viewpoint that fat = "no self control". What I'm saying is that it IS a viewpoint that at least some have and it's not that hard to understand the roots of it. Frankly, it's a LOT more understandable than things like wardrobe and hairstyle.


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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:49:04 AM   
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Thats because we are always hungry!

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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:49:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I am just going to interject a fast reply here.....

Fat girls make pretty decent cocksuckers usually. 

<mnottertail mode>

"Mind you, so do skinny girls ... in fact, all girls do ... and the same goes for anal sex too!"

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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:50:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BonesFromAsh
Walking is a gift few people truly appreciate until they don't have the ability.

I agree*

*from both a motorcycle accident** and several many hugely drunken evenings point of view ...
**I can walk again now though. Which is nice.

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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:52:28 AM   
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My issue with the OP in particular is it's not overweight dominants in general but specifically their online profiles. A picture, a profile and a weight that, as she said, may or may not be listed. Since the weight doesn't automatically change, it could easily be out of date. When I got down to 140, I didn't update my weight with every weigh-in.

As for perception in general - I don't get it but I don't have to. My objection is taking a preference and perception and applying universally and then getting... hot under the collar... shall we say when others don't agree. My reaction is much the same as when someone comes on saying that all men are pigs and need to be enslaved to strong female women because they can't control their sexualities. It's their perception and studies have shown that men are more likely to be unfaithful but that doesn't mean I'll agree with the conclusion.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 12/1/2010 11:02:04 AM >


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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:52:43 AM   
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Thats because we are always hungry!

That's why I like to put them on diets when we get together!


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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:52:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Icarys

Hey, with all of the "Dominants" out of work these days..does that mean their cards will be revoked?


not if they can bake pies from scratch

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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:53:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

Hey, with all of the "Dominants" out of work these days..does that mean their cards will be revoked?


not if they can bake pies from scratch

Phew. Close call at second.

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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:53:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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Thats because we are always hungry!

That's why I like to put them on diets when we get together!



A cock-free diet??? WTF??????

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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:57:30 AM   
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...and studies have shown that men are more likely to be unfaithful but that doesn't mean I'll agree with the conclusion....
Heh, jury's out in my mind, more recent studies are pointing to the idea that men and women cheat equally (which is, by the way, a mathematical necessity). Women, however, have a much larger social incentive to lie about it. I actually find this little bit fascinating. It is NOT POSSIBLE for men to cheat more than women. That has been demonstrated roughly 2 gajillion times by mathematicians not marriage councilors. Yet still people believe in it. That belief is a lot like believing that gravity is a myth.

Even so, I understand why people think that.


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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:58:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

Hey, with all of the "Dominants" out of work these days..does that mean their cards will be revoked?


not if they can bake pies from scratch

I knew it was a good idea to hone those skills! It draws the fat bitches to me like a magnet as well which in turn ups my chances of getting a toe-curling mind-numbing blowjob..I haz a plan I tell ya!


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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 10:59:24 AM   
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Using fast reply based on a thought that Aqua stirred in my brain.

I think that a huge part of all of this is, less so the individual issue and moreso the individual having discipline where they feel it is important.........then finding a partner/s that share similar values.



great point LaTigresse, and sorry i missed this up til now. when it comes to self-discipline in a partner, we all have our own internal priority ranking system. areas where a lack of a self-discipline would be completely intolerable, and then some areas where it's not quite as important.

i personally couldn't tolerate addictive behaviors, of any sort (including smoking, drinking, even sex), as that's such a glaring example of lack of discipline and control. gluttony kind of falls in line with addictive behavior imo, and that's just not something i could respect. but then, my Master has a quick temper...it can flare up high and forceful just like that! *finger snap*...for plenty of submissives i'm sure that would be intolerable in a partner, but for me it just isn't an issue since it's not so bad that it negatively effects his life. in fact i've been astonished at the number of times that his hot temper has actually been beneficial to himself and others (like his immediately coming to the aid of a man, total stranger, being beaten by others in the street). so if anything, it only adds to that reverential feeling i have toward him. for someone else though it would likely be very different.



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RE: Weight and Master/Dom control - 12/1/2010 11:00:07 AM   
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A cock-free diet??? WTF??????

Oh no...A little starvation makes for a veracious appetite! lol


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