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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:11:23 AM   
truckinslave


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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:12:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Pondering the Obama haters-   your contempt really has become un-appealing.   At some point- whatcha reap is whatcha sow.  IE the hate.

I do not care for his expansion of federal power-  but for youns to ballyhoo Bush is comical.  They all are schills for the NWO.

If only McCain had won- the country would be just fine-  (coughs and gags and passes out!) HA!

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:15:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, you can make this shit up, and the shit is pure spin.

So, you advocate that regardless of anothers customs, rather than us having understanding and know something about them, and welcoming them into this country, we should be as belligerent as possible, for example, tell an irishman just off the plane, by god paddy, you fuckin potatohead.  that is the finest english linen shirt ive ever seen you wearing.

I suspect that is not the only 'sensitivity' training they have been through.   You might give a moment and see if you can comprehend any of these concepts.  I admit I am not hopeful here. 



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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:17:24 AM   
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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:18:39 AM   
truckinslave


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Status: offline 		"It made national news at the time"
As well it should have.

I am certain most people disagree with your understanding of  "national office", which for the rest of us means "POTUS and VPOTUS".

Just for you, though, and any others who might share your understanding:

I do not for a moment imagine that a Muslim running for POTUS or VPOTUS could poll over 10%.
I doubt an atheist could break 30%

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:21:03 AM   
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Sounds weak to me.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:22:33 AM   
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I do not for a moment imagine that a Muslim running for POTUS or VPOTUS could poll over 10%.
I doubt an atheist could break 30%

That's a genuine shame if it's true. I tend to see America as a fairly enlightened country, but I'm possibly being overly optimistic on that front.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:23:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Now, in the way you said that, I would agree wholeheartedly, which is because it is a different layout from your original.

Right off the bat, I doubt our muslim population is much grander than 10% and religions are adversarial anyway, look at the shit Kennedy put up with. 

Yeah, we are big on images regarless of the realities.

I would say that prior to 9/11 we would have polled a muslim somewhich higher.



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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:24:24 AM   
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IE the hate.

I know this is a small point to some but it's really annoying.

'i.e.' (Always lowercase always with dots in the middle.)

Mostly when I see IE the person is talking about internet explorer, I keep expecting a number to appear at the end of it. I've lived on this planet for many years and never or seldom have I seen 'i.e.' written as 'IE'. You'd have to really go some and regularly read the most obscure publications to make you think it was 'IE' and not 'i.e.'

What possesses you?


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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:26:33 AM   
truckinslave


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I said one cannot get elected to national office.

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:27:45 AM   
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That's a genuine shame if it's true. I tend to see America as a fairly enlightened country, but I'm possibly being overly optimistic on that front.


Bigtime.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:29:58 AM   
truckinslave


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Status: offline 		"That's a genuine shame if it's true. I tend to see America as a fairly enlightened country"

How condescendingly nice of you.
I have a different impression of England, but that's not the point here.
How many Muslims have been elected PM? Atheists?? Blacks???

Muslims are, after all, a far larger percentage of your population.....

< Message edited by truckinslave -- 12/11/2010 8:31:11 AM >

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:30:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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That's a genuine shame if it's true. I tend to see America as a fairly enlightened country, but I'm possibly being overly optimistic on that front.


Bigtime.

Yeah I must say there was an article in the UK recently about JFK's presidential campaign, and the dirty tricks being used by his people, but what really struck me was how big a deal him being a Catholic was at the time. I honestly thought (seriously) that Americans, regardless of whether they're Rep or Dem, would want their best guy to do well, but there was quite a bit written about how even his own party were concerned at the accusation he would be a "Papist".

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:32:55 AM   
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How many Muslims have been elected PM? Atheists?? Blacks???

Muslims are, after all, a far larger percentage of your population.....

We are all atheists in the UK we just don't like to admit it.

Therefore almost 100% of PM's have been atheist, only the nutjob Blair slipped through the net.


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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:40:54 AM   
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"That's a genuine shame if it's true. I tend to see America as a fairly enlightened country"

How condescendingly nice of you.
I have a different impression of England, but that's not the point here.
How many Muslims have been elected PM? Atheists??

Muslims are, after all, a far larger percentage of your population.....

It wasn't condescending in the slightest. I tend to view America, with its written and enabled Constitution (as fine an ideal as is possible to get) to be a genuinely enlightened place, in terms of attitude. The more I read, however, the more it seems clear that people really do consider religion to be a far more important factor in a person’s political chances than their intellect and abilities.

We haven’t had a Muslim PM yet, no. We had a woman, mind, which puts us one step ahead of the US on the “equality” front, but frankly Maggie was a bit of a disaster, so that might colour things for anyone else trying. I for one wouldn’t see someone being Muslim as a barrier to election here, although things are more racially divided further north (I live in London) and generally speaking people here seem far less concerned about a person’s religious beliefs when electing them to office than in the US. Which I would consider a good thing, generally.

As to “atheist” PMs, well the last one to make any kind of song and dance about being Christian was Tony Blair, although Cameron is “quietly Christian” – generally speaking it really isn’t a topic of interest to most voters, but that would presumably be because a much larger proportion of Brits than Americans are either non-religious, or don't consider it a factor. We have Muslim councillors and MPs, and there have been Muslim junior Ministers, so I would think it’s only a matter of time before a good candidate becomes PM. Of course there will be those who try the scare tactic approach when it happens, but I doubt very much they’d succeed in making it that big a deal.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:43:59 AM   
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The Church Of England  (bring on the dancing sluts, let's say, the Boylen girls)

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:46:24 AM   
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Did I say that pahunk?
I said one cannot get elected to national office.


I know. I did many posts on the birth certificate.

This begs the question-  do us people have any real say so in governance?   Even at the local level? 

I was one to gung ho- on state and local issues- and while they might politely listen in the end they do precisely what the intended to do- the public be damned.  I have publicly commented on many issues in PA and to no avail-- 

Most recently our river front project. I am the lone written commenter- I cogently expressed my concerns- and they were ignored.  Consider tho- that my being against my view of the river blocked by lights and trees- 99% of the town SUPPORTS the project- via the fact that they failed to submit written comment.

It sucks.  My house- should not be flooded by light pollution- and my view should not be obstructed by trees that are too tall.  and I am the guy who submitted comments in writing.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:46:48 AM   
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The Church Of England (bring on the dancing sluts, let's say, the Boylen girls)

The Church of England is a great institution, I'm glad we stopped believing a man should only have one wife a long time ago and broke away from those monogamous Catholics.


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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 9:07:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

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How many Muslims have been elected PM? Atheists?? Blacks???

Muslims are, after all, a far larger percentage of your population.....

We are all atheists in the UK we just don't like to admit it.

Therefore almost 100% of PM's have been atheist, only the nutjob Blair slipped through the net.



I think you would find that most of us that are supposed to be Christians are Theistic or Agnostic but in a way your right. Many Christian churches are falling into disrepair or have been taken over by fringe religions. Lots have now been converted into nightclubs. I used to hire an old church in Brixton and run it as a BDSM club.
That obviously doesn't include the mosques, the synagogues, Hindu temples or other places of worship for alternative religions.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 9:10:01 AM   
truckinslave


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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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