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Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 7:26:19 AM   
FirmhandKY


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Status: offline 		In case you missed it, on Friday afternoon, President Obama had a surprise, unannounced and unscheduled press conference.  He brought Bill Clinton in, and after a few minutes Obama took his leave, leaving Clinton alone with a room full of reporters in the White House.

I have to say, this brings up all kinds of thoughts in my mind (and in lots of other peoples minds as well).

First, Clinton did an excellent job of defending Obama's decision.  For allowing Clinton to speak, I give Obama kudos.

However, Obama's leaving early into the conference didn't seem like such a good idea, from a personal presentation point of view.

I felt almost at home with Clinton.  He flowed. He expounded.  He was Presidential.

The comparison that came to my mind between how Obama presents his ideas, and how Clinton performed didn't present Obama in a very good light.

Video of the entire 30+ minute conference:

Complete Clinton Conference on CBS News.

The New York Times article on the conference:

The Surprise Trip to the Briefing Room

Another article, which has a much shorter video clip at the bottom of the article:

President Obama Brings Bill Clinton In To Talk Tax Plan…And Then Leaves To Go To A Christmas Party!

Your opinions?

Firm

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 7:33:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yet another fine example of Obama's lack of leadership...relying on a former POTUS, and an Impeached former POTUS to boot, to get him out of another jam.

Just goes to prove, once again, that Joe Biden hit the nail squarely on the head during a 2008 Democratic primary debate when he said "He [Obama] does not have the experience or judgment to be President. The President is not a job for on the job training."


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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 7:41:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Excellent message.  Clinton had a mid term shellacking and found a way to compromise with the republicans (after some rocky shit) back in 94 and the government shutting down (intimating, do you want that again?) Obama made his proposal with input from the republican leadership in order to find a starting point for some sort of compromise, and now its up to the rank and file lawmakers to make the law and fight it tooth and nail.

The message--- find a compromise, this is the same situation more or less we've found ourselves in,  same shit different day, I did my bit, you do yours. Close the government, change the proposal to your hearts content.  But shit or get off the pot.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 8:19:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		It was an excellent message...or explanation of their strategy.  As far as Obama leaving about 5 minutes into it all, I personally think that was the plan.  People are getting boisterous over Obama and his deals (and attempt to compromise) with the republicans.  The republicans are a useless lot though when it comes to compromise.  He's losing democratic support.  What better way to lift their spirits and get everyone back on the same page by putting a different...another excellent speaker in, besides himself, to convince everyone this is the right way to go. 

Is it really the right way to go?  I surely don't know.  But I'm so damn tired of republicans trying to bully everyone into getting their way. 


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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 8:45:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		It was a bit surreal, Firm. The imagery of the President leaving his microphone, and the task of a do-over on defending his deal, in the hands of Clinton struck me. It didn't look good, and it doesn't inspire much confidence in our current leadership.

Not to hijack, but one thing about the coverage is interesting. President Obama clearly said he had a Christmas party to attend, yet all the reporting I saw referenced it as a "holiday" party.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 8:57:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh heaven forbid! He called it a "Christmas" party.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:09:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		He didn't call it North Korea at least. 

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:09:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Exactly, Tazzy. Why the choice by the media to give it the generic label?

Another thing to note about the conference was the President's statement that Gibbs would take the last question, but by the time Wild Bill was done, the press corps had no further interest in hearing from the present administration, and everybody just left.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:12:55 AM   
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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:15:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe they have been instructed not to use the word "Christmas"

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:17:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I doubt Obama can be blamed in any fashion for the news medias PC, or can he?

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:20:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		He clearly has no appetite for the work of governing- neither for the debate nor for the drafting and researching of legislation. He's just phoning it in, looking down his nose at the little people doing his bidding; and it clearly irritates it him that anyone dares to disagree.
Strangely, to me, Hilary seems to me to have a real taste for the work, for the day-to-day business.
0bama0 and Mishe both have taken to the pomp and circumstance rather well, doncha think?

OT- what did you think of his screed about " some say it's unwise to negotiate with hostage-takers... unless the hostage is being harmed"? (That's from memory, but it's close. I suspect you heard/saw it). I thought it was flabbergastingly stupid. Wonder how many terrorists are looking for hostages? 

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:22:55 AM   
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Hard to imagine. Me. The press corpse. Common ground.



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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:23:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Who is trying to blame Obama for it? Much more likely that some editors have sent out a memo. I just found it interesting that the press was PC-ing up the President's statements.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:26:38 AM   
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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:29:38 AM   
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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:30:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave
what did you think of his screed about " some say it's unwise to negotiate with hostage-takers... unless the hostage is being harmed"? (That's from memory, but it's close. I suspect you heard/saw it). I thought it was flabbergastingly stupid. Wonder how many terrorists are looking for hostages? 



He did step on his boy-bits with that comment, didn't he? I hate to think how over the top his demonization rhetoric is going to get as we move towards him having to deal with a Republican controlled House, and the '12 campaign.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:36:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I, personally, have no problem with a leader facing a problem and looking for brains to pick who have "been there, done that".

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:39:21 AM   
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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 9:40:53 AM   
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Be nice to get that milestone out of the way.

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
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