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LadyConstanze -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:17:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox Might be me? I'm guessing you haven't read my other posts here. I have no difficulty getting laid IRL. What I'm discussing are trends. And for that matter, if you're going the 'man up and take it' route, then goddamnit man up and take the bullshit approaches. Appreciate them for what they're worth, and stop being such a goddamned waste of sexuality. Check it out, somebody already made that experiment... http://www.collarchat.com/m_3050286/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#3050286 Amazing results..... As for goddamned waste of sexuality, I got the flu but you inspired me to take a hot shower, tie my other half to the bed and fuck him senseless, I shall tell him that I am a goddamned waste of sexuality - obviously he wont get a BJ as I don't talk with a full mouth and it's dangerous too laugh during one....

DMFParadox -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:18:40 PM)
So far reading that thread, everyone's bitching at her for being unethical (pshh, I wish ALL women did this) and only domiguy is calling her on her shit. Let's see if she's bluffing or if she has some bullets.

VaguelyCurious -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:21:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox Ok, checking out that thread. Looking for references to support her claim; any clue which page that might be on? How could she? Private messages have to remain private. But well done for making that a question even though you already know the answer, I guess. I believe her, because she's described pretty the type of message she was writing, and I know that those messages got pretty close to a 100% response rate from me-I suspect that that would generalise out pretty well.

DMFParadox -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:26:45 PM)
Ok, I'm 8 pages in, I'm done. I call bullshit. I don't know who she wrote; it might have been nothing but unattractive 300 lbd. geriatrics who don't get tons of mail. I don't know what she said; she gives an idea of it in her profile, but there's a HUGE difference between getting one tepid response back, and getting actual interest in a relationship. ...And there is no proof to back up these claims. It might be good enough for her, but shame on her for posting about it without substance.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:28:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox Ok, checking out that thread. Looking for references to support her claim; any clue which page that might be on? How could she? Private messages have to remain private. But well done for making that a question even though you already know the answer, I guess. I believe her, because she's described pretty the type of message she was writing, and I know that those messages got pretty close to a 100% response rate from me-I suspect that that would generalise out pretty well. Exactly, I always reply to a nice message, even if I just let them know that it's not going to happen, but they will get a reply. A message where they didn't put in any effort or thought or "WAZ UP" I delete, just like the obvious cut and paste jobs. Messages where somebody tells me how he's masturbating or that are obviously written while masturbating furiously - straight to delete...

DMFParadox -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:29:51 PM)
Fine. As a man, I say that trying the exact same approach gets maybe a 30-40% response rate, and almost never gets responses that lead towards flirtation and/or agreement to a meetup. By the third email, it disappears down a black hole. Edit: a lot of that has to do with who you email, too. I restrict my searches to 27 or younger and -160 lbs. in a 25 mile radius. I do plenty of correspondence with people I'm not attracted to; jokes that come to mind, compliments and critiques.Pretty much around 90% responses the first few times. But. That crap doesn't count for this; none of it goes anywhere.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:31:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox Ok, I'm 8 pages in, I'm done. I call bullshit. I don't know who she wrote; it might have been nothing but unattractive 300 lbd. geriatrics who don't get tons of mail. I don't know what she said; she gives an idea of it in her profile, but there's a HUGE difference between getting one tepid response back, and getting actual interest in a relationship. ...And there is no proof to back up these claims. It might be good enough for her, but shame on her for posting about it without substance. Oh FFS, should she have posted all the replies? Shame on her? You told me to do what she did, I bet if I would do that - and no I won't because it is unethical - and you wouldn't like my reply (and I guess I would get some responses, which would piss you off greatly and have you throwing an even bigger paddy) you would claim tht there is no proof...

LadyConstanze -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:33:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox Fine. As a man, I say that trying the exact same approach gets maybe a 30-40% response rate, and almost never gets responses that lead towards flirtation and/or agreement to a meetup. By the third email, it disappears down a black hole. Go back, you asked me how many RESPONSES I would get as a guy and that guys get no responses, you are changing your tune, I said all the time - and most women too (here and in the other thread) that they reply nicely to a nice email, nobody said anything about an email leading to a relationship and you are both going to ride into the sunset.

VaguelyCurious -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:34:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox I don't know who she wrote; it might have been nothing but unattractive 300 lbd. geriatrics who don't get tons of mail. There is no woman on this site who doesn't get a ton of mail. I've listed myself as 99. I've listed myself as whatever the top weight is. No difference. quote: I don't know what she said; she gives an idea of it in her profile, but there's a HUGE difference between getting one tepid response back, and getting actual interest in a relationship. Ah ah ah, now you're moving the goalposts-you challenged Lady C to get responses, not potential life partnerships. quote: ...And there is no proof to back up these claims. No there isn't, because that would be impossible without violating TOS, but like I said, her findings ring true with my experiences. quote: It might be good enough for her, but shame on her for posting about it without substance. Eh. If it's between that and doing it in the first place, I'd say doing it (like you were trying to persuade Lady C to) was the shittier thing. But that's my own personal judgement.

DMFParadox -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:35:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze Oh FFS, should she have posted all the replies? No, she should simply have not posted at all.

DMFParadox -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:38:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious Ah ah ah, now you're moving the goalposts-you challenged Lady C to get responses, not potential life partnerships. This itched at me too, but the essence of the original complaints had to do with mating rituals and the lack of attractiveness thereof. So it's more like I'm restating the original goalposts before they got moved too far.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:39:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze Oh FFS, should she have posted all the replies? No, she should simply have not posted at all. Why? You were just telling me to do the same thing she did, so it is alright for you to post that I should do something but it is not alright for somebody else to do the same thing and post about it? Funny logic, why not? Because it shows guys that maybe the messages they send to women aren't good enough to get replies and they have <gasp> put in a bit more effort?

DMFParadox -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:40:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious Eh. If it's between that and doing it in the first place, I'd say doing it (like you were trying to persuade Lady C to) was the shittier thing. But that's my own personal judgement. I disagree. All women should do this, all of them. Especially any who have complained about clumsy approaches by men. Or you know what? Fuck it. Nobody should ever approach anyone else, let's all live in motherfucking matrix eggs and dream about perfection, how 'bout that?

LadyConstanze -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:40:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox quote: ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious Ah ah ah, now you're moving the goalposts-you challenged Lady C to get responses, not potential life partnerships. This itched at me too, but the essence of the original complaints had to do with mating rituals and the lack of attractiveness thereof. So it's more like I'm restating the original goalposts before they got moved too far. No, you are not, you are weasling out because you have been busted, your own words and you are now trying to change them as you don't like the answers.... Again, not very manly...

DMFParadox -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:41:25 PM)
@LadyCostanze DO it, but don't post about it. Keep it as a private lesson, can you comprehend that notion?

DMFParadox -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:43:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox quote: ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious Ah ah ah, now you're moving the goalposts-you challenged Lady C to get responses, not potential life partnerships. This itched at me too, but the essence of the original complaints had to do with mating rituals and the lack of attractiveness thereof. So it's more like I'm restating the original goalposts before they got moved too far. No, you are not, you are weasling out because you have been busted, your own words and you are now trying to change them as you don't like the answers.... Again, not very manly... Pssht. You wouldn't know manly if you got ass raped by Colonel Sanders wearing Old Spice holding a football and conducting a corporate takeover at the same time. I'm not weaseling shit, and let's keep the ad hominems down. I did one for one; we're even.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:44:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox quote: ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious Eh. If it's between that and doing it in the first place, I'd say doing it (like you were trying to persuade Lady C to) was the shittier thing. But that's my own personal judgement. I disagree. All women should do this, all of them. Especially any who have complained about clumsy approaches by men. Or you know what? Fuck it. Nobody should ever approach anyone else, let's all live in motherfucking matrix eggs and dream about perfection, how 'bout that? Tell you what, we get approached and as I said, guy today, perfectly nice and polite, we exchanged emails, we were on the phone, explained to him I am not looking for a partner, he was still a gent, we kept on talking, he asked if he could call me, gave him my mobile number, we had a laugh, I'm going with him to a fetish party as it is easier for a guy at events if he has somebody (especially a woman) along, single guys are usually the odd ones out. No, not going to be a relationship or anything like that, but maybe a friendship, maybe even some play. Guess what, that's what a NICE approach gets you, if your Cmails don't get you that, then well, you could write to the wrong people or you could say the wrong stuff, or maybe you do both?

DMFParadox -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:48:00 PM)
Sure. And guess what? I'm friends with a couple local dommes around town. But if they start bitching about weak approaches, I call them on their shit too. Fucking deal with it.

DMFParadox -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:49:50 PM)
This has been fun, but I have to head out. Have a good night!

VaguelyCurious -> RE: Tell Me why you want to serve Me. (12/14/2010 6:52:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox This itched at me too, but the essence of the original complaints had to do with mating rituals and the lack of attractiveness thereof. So it's more like I'm restating the original goalposts before they got moved too far. ...so the only way for her to fulfil this to your standards would be to string some poor women along until she could tell if they were up for a serious relationship? That's creepy beyond even your usual level of ick. quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox I disagree. All women should do this, all of them. Especially any who have complained about clumsy approaches by men. No. I'm not making someone else's day worse by stringing them along to satisfy my own curiosity. quote: Or you know what? Fuck it. Nobody should ever approach anyone else, let's all live in motherfucking matrix eggs and dream about perfection, how 'bout that? Could you be a bit more melodramatic for me please? I'm not quite getting the full self-righteous vibe. I do just fine approaching women, as it happens. And I don't get perfection, but what I do get is way close enough for me. But that has nothing at all to do with this freaky idea of impersonating men, so I can only guess you're bringing it up for effect...

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